Should You Show People Being Murdered To Sell A Weapons Detection System? (Evolv Webinar)

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Donald Maye
•Jan 25, 2022

IPVM is attending an Evolv webinar "New Standards in Physical Security" and their founder Michael Ellenbogen presented the below slide, which shows a photo of one of the explosions at the Boston Marathon bombing. Three people died and hundreds were injured.

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Donald Maye
•Jan 25, 2022

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Brian Karas
•Jan 25, 2022
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Donald Maye
•Jan 25, 2022
In reply to Brian Karas

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Undisclosed End User #1
•Jan 25, 2022

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Undisclosed Integrator #2
•Jan 25, 2022

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Donald Maye
•Jan 25, 2022
In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #2

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Undisclosed End User #1
•Jan 25, 2022
In reply to Donald Maye

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Undisclosed #3
•Jan 25, 2022
In reply to Undisclosed End User #1

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Undisclosed Integrator #4
•Jan 26, 2022

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Donald Maye
•Jan 26, 2022
In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #4

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Undisclosed Integrator #4
•Jan 26, 2022

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Donald Maye
•Jan 26, 2022
In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #4

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #5
•Jan 26, 2022

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