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Security Sales Question: Did I Expose A 'Time Suck' Or Make A Mistake?
I'm really looking for honest feedback... This is nearly word-for-word (just happened minutes ago) of a conversation I had with a prospect that contacted us through our website:
Me: "Prospect (1st name), do you have a camera vendor who you currently work with?
Prospect: "Yes, we have a local company that originally installed the system and has done all of our service and maintenance (since 2014)."
Me: "Well, why don't you just continue to work with them?"
Prospect: "It's our school policy to get 3 bids on new system upgrades"
Me: "We are a growing company and I don't want to waste your time our mine if our participation is just going to be a formality in the process"
Prospect: "Ok, so this conversation is over..." hung up
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* ** ***** ******* matters & *'* ***** to ** ***** & learn.
** ******* **** ... you **** ******* **** someone ** *** ****** end *** *** ** skin ** *** **** and *** **** ****** a ***** ** ***** end.
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** ****** **** **** prospect *** **** ***** through *** ******* ** satisfy * ********* **** to ***** ***** ***** current ****** *** **** interaction ****'* *** ***** the **** **** *** in ****.
* ***** **** ***** them **** ***: "**** could **** ******* ****** do ****** ** **** your *****?" ** **** took *** **** *** effort ** ****** **** question *** *** ****** a ***** ** ****** of *** ******* ******, then ***** * ********** discussion ***** *****.
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* ***** **** **#*.
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"**** ***** **** ******* vendor ** ****** ** meet **** *****?" * love **** ********- * should **** ****** ** better ** **** ***. Thank *** *** *** input.
********* ************** ** * topic ** **** ***** in *** ** *** sessions ** *** **** sales *****. ***** * understand **** ********/******** ** the ********, ***** *** "better" **** ** ****** that ************.
*****, * ***** *** that ** *** ***** through ** ***** **** of *** ******* ** understand *** ********'* ************ and ******* ****, ** was * ****** *********** to ********** **** **** are ******, *** **** your *********** ** *********.
******, **** ** ** would ********** *** ** being * "***** ** time", ***** *** **** jarring **** ** *** them **** *** *** not ***** ** ******* a *****. **** ** one ** *** ******** an ********** *********** ****** during *****:
***** **** ******* *** consideration, ** **** ******* not ** ****** **** opportunity **** **** ******* at **** ****. ** very **** ********** *** opportunity, *** ** ****** to ***** ***-*** ********* to *** ********. ** just ***'* ***** ** could **** * ******** that ***** **** *** both ** ** ** this ****. ****** **** this ** * ********** of *** *******, *** not ** **** *******.
***** *** **** **** for *********** **. ** would **** **** **** to ** ********** ** future ********. ****** **** us ** ****.
********* **** ** *** an ****** *** ***** provide **** *** ***** in * ***** ************, but * ***** ***** was ** *********** ****** there ** ****** "*** don't *** **** ******** to **** **** ****?" right ****.
****,
**** ******. * ****'* disclose **** **** ** the ************. ***. ***** was ****-***-***** ***** * mentioned ** * ******** reply- ************* *** ***** of *** *******, ********** involved **** **** *****/******** and * ****** *** experience *** ******** ********* as ** ******* ** their ******. *** ******** didn't **** **** ** say ***** **** ******* which ** *** * choose *** ***** ** further ************** (*** ** post).
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****** *** **** ********.
****, **** ***** **** sense **** *** ********** context.
****, ** ** *****, I ** *** ***** you **** ***** ** saying "**", ********** ************* that *** *** * previous ****-***-***** ***** *** scope ** *** *******. It ***** **** *** did **** ** **********, and **** ******** *** no ********* ** ******* with *** ******.
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***, ****'* ** ******** from *****! **** ** see ** ****** ********* already. ***** *****, *'** had ** *** ** twice! **** ** ***** some ******, ** ****.
*** ** *** ***-*****, but *** ***** ***** was *****! * ********* it **** *** ***** like ** *** **** almost ** ***** **. Always **** ** *****-** on **** ******, *** I'm ***** *** *** to ***** *** ******.
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**** *** *** ******* this **** ** **** exactly *****. *** **** to **** ******** ******* on ************* **** *** have **** **** ** winning, *** **** ************ profitably.
* ****** ****** ******* multiple **** ****** **** it *** *** ********* to ** * ***** time ****, *** **** if *** "***", *** mind **** * *** of ******* **** *** up **** *** ******. Or, *** ***** *** and ** **********, *** it ***** **** * lot ** ********* **** the ******* **** ***** have **** ****** **** multiple ********.
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* **** **** **** that *** ** *** best **** ** **** a ***** ******** ** to **** *** *** when ** *** "**" so **** *** *** stay ** ***** ****-****.
*** ******** *** ********, where **** ****'* **** try *** ******** *** to ***, ***** ** that *** ****** *** right **** ** *** "No" ****.
**** **** ** ****** all *** **** , Not ***
** **** **** ** bids, **** ******, ** play *** ****
****** ** ******* *** and *** *** ****** , *** ***** ** a **** , *** design ********* *** **** and **** , *** payment ********
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** **** , **** time *** ********* **** is ** *****
**** ******* ** ** formality * *** *** state
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****** * ******** ******** that *** ****** **** the **** ** ** proper *** ********* *** the ****** ** ******** a ************ ******** ** a *** ** * valid ******** ********.
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**: "** *** * growing ******* *** * don't **** ** ***** your **** *** **** if *** ************* ** just ***** ** ** a ********* ** *** process"
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***** ****
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** * ** ***** out ** *** *** they ***
**** ** **** **** other **** *** *****.
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* ****'* **** * high *** *** *** response. ********* ******** ****, yeah **'* **** ** outside *********** ** **'** keeping *** ******* **** we're *** **** ********** to **** ******* **** in *** ******* *** me.
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****** ***** , **** is *** * **** for ****
*** * , **** many ****** **** ** to **** ** ***** , **** ** **** , ****** , ******** and ******* ***** , Thats *** * **** and ****** **** **** .
**** *** *** *** Best
**** ** *** **** at **** , ******* the ***** * ***** Place *** ** ** the **** , *** inovations
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*** ******** , **** to ******* ***** ******** or ***** ******** * who ***** ** *** plan , **** *** nothing **** .
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**** **. *** *** the ***** *****.
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**** **** * ******** I *** ******* * days * **** *** doing ********* ** *******, it *** ** ******. I ** *** **** thing, *** ******* *** lead, *** **** *** buying/decision ****** ******* **, give **** * ***** budget **** *** *****, per ******/**** ***.
* *** **** **** deals, *** ** *** also **** ******* ** more **** ** ***** on ****** ********* *****.
**** **** **** ***** the **** ****** ***** 2014. **** *** ***** why ***'* **** *** them, *** ****** *** we **** * "****". Not ** *** ******* for ****** *******, * different ********, ***.
**** ****** ******* ** was *** **** ***** they ***** **** **** for ***.
* ****** **** * hear * ******** **** and *** *** *** come *** *** **** a "***". ** ***** them **** ******* **** the ********* ****.
*** **** ****** **** us *** *** *********, service ***. ** *** on **** ******, *** security ********.
* **** *** ********* government, *** **** ** the "* *****" *****. From * ******** *********** I'm ******* *** ***** (support, ******** *******), *** I'm *** ****** ** take *** ****** ***.
* **** ** **** my ******* ****, *** never **** *** ******* to **** **** **** "own" **. **** ***** when * *** *** 3 ******, * **** actually **** *** **** and ** ******* **** on * **** ** case *****. * **** award ** *** **** bid, *** * **** monitor *** *********** ** that *******.
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* ***** ***** *** for * ***** **** to ** ******* *** motions.
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**** *** *** ********* them, ****** *** *** closing **** *** ******* schedule. **'* *** ******** path ** * ****** easy *** ** *** smell * **** ****.
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*** ***** **** ******** you **** ** ** in *** ******. ***** you'll ** ******* *** work *** **** **** to **** * *****.....
*** *** **** *** for **** ** *** won't ** ******* * call *** *** **** one, *** **** ****'* ok, ********* * ****** was ******* *** *** move ** ** *** next ***.
*** ** ***, *********, post ***********, *** *** same ****, ** *** were *** **** ***** you ** *** *****?
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* ***'* ***** **.
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****, ***** ** **** good **** ** **** post.
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******, *** *** ** a **** *** *** what *** *********** ******* bids ** *** ** this ** ** ******** the **** ****.
*** ***, **** *********** ARE ****** **** ****** sure **** *** ***** bids, ********* ** ***.
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*** *****
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****** * ************ ** the ** ********** *** No ***** *** *** County *** **** ***
**** ** *** *** have ***** , *** must ****** , **** the ******* *** ********* the ******.
*** ** *** , Records, ******, *** *************
**** *** *********** , that *** ** ** an **** *******
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**** *******, **** ******* out , **** ****
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