Restaurant Camera System Project Advice - Budget ~$9,000 For ~30 Cameras Per Restaurant

Hello All,

My team is planning to replace the camera systems at most of our 11 restaurants in the near future.  They currently have analog/TVI systems and will be moving to IP.  I've been considering using Revo or GeoVision, based on budget and the functionality available, but I would like input from this community of pros before proceeding.  We also considered the Unifi Protect/Video line, but need centralized user management and the ability to do bulk video downloads of more than 10 minutes, which we ran into issues with in our testing.

Each of these locations will have 8-9 outdoor cameras and 23-24 indoor cameras.  All cameras need to be IP66/67.  Indoors will be low profile, probably domes, and outdoors probably bullets or domes. They will all be PoE. We're aiming at 25-30 fps at 1920x1080 (internal) and 4k (external), and hope to get 30+ days of retention.  The stores only have 10Mb (fiber) upload bandwidth, so we're planning to have local NVRs.  We do need a good mobile app for the managers and owner to use, and to be able to centrally manage users and systems/cameras.

Any recommendations? The main limiting factor is our budget - about $75k.

Thanks in advance!

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*** *** *** $*** too ****!

** *** *** *** TVI *** **** ** less

*** **** **** ******* for *** ***:)

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**** *** *** *** have ***** ******

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** *** *** **** were ****** ** **.

** ***** ******** ******* the ****** *** **** run * *** **** lines, ** **** ** upgrading *** *******/*** ** a ****** *****, ** that ***** *****.

* ***** *** **** item **** *** *** really **** ********* ** any ******* * **** seen *** ** *** fact ** ****** **+ days ********* ** **** site. ****** ** ******* this ******** **** ****** cost **** ************* *** below $*** *** ******.

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*** *** **** *** pay ***. 

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** *:

  *) **** *** cameras ** *** *** stores **** **** ** (LTS) ******* *******
  *) *** *** the *** ***** **** I **** *** **
  *) ***** **** location ** ** ******* for ***, *** *** others **** ****
  *) *** ******* ourselves -**- **** ******* remaining ****** *** *** to ****** ****** *** keep ******** *******

******* **** ***** **** me ****** ***********?

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** ** *** ****, what ****** ***** *** suggest (**** * ****** good *** ***** *** expensive) **** ***** ***** for *********** ****** *** user **********, ** ***** is *** *********?

**** ** ** *******, the ****-**** **** ****** Wave ** ** ********. Don't **** **** ********** with ***********, *** ***** be ***** ******* ** for **** ***********. ***** Salient. 

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*** * **** *** crowd **** * *** we ***** *** ***** it ** **** ***** but *** ******* **** to **** * ****** integrator ** *** ***** to ***** **.

 

***** *** **** *** budget **** ****? *** this **** ****** **** thin ***? * ******* scaling *** ****** ****, covering *** *****, ***** running **** ** *** future ********* ** ****, then ******* *** ****** up.

 

*** ****** ** **** a ***** ******, **** less *******, **** **** cameras **** **** ******.

 

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*****,

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*** ** *****, *** can ********* ****** **** Milestone *** ** ** likely *** ** **** budget.

** ***** **** *** might **** *** ****** *** HikVision ***'* *** ******* but **** ************* **** cameras *** ******* *****.

**** *** ********** ******** your ****** ** *********** with ****** **** *** now *** ************ **** systems in *** ****** *****?

** ******,

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***** *** *** *** your ********** (*** ********) replies.  *'* ********* **** advice * *** *** will *** ** ******* later ***** ** ********.

** ***** ***** **** few ** *** ****** the *****-*** ********** ******* I've **** *********** (**** GeoVision, **** *** ********) as ***** *****. **** being *** ****, ** there *** ********* ** what ****** ***** ******* the **** *********** ** cost-effectiveness, ******* *** *************?  Perhaps * *** ******* a ****** ***** **** sufficient ****.

************ * ******* ** can ****** **********, ** do **** ********* ** network ******* *** ******* configuration ** **** *** cameras. ***** *** **** consulting ** *** ******* if ******.

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**** ***** ** ** a ******* ***, *** Uniview ** *** * bad *******. *** **** a ***** ***** * used ***** ******** *** I ******* *** ****** like ****** *** ****. 

 

*** **** **** ** from *****/***/******* ** ***** to ** ******* ********, Hanwah, *** *******.

******, ***, *'** **** into ***** *************' ******** also.

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*********, ****

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*****-

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****** ~ $*** (***** every *****)
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******** ~ $*** (*.***, Outdoor, ****** *** **** Solid)

********* **** *,***' ***** $59.95
******** **-**** **** ***** panel ~$**
********** ****** ** ** 12U **** ~$***
********** ************* ***** *** LCD *** - $*** (you *** **** ****** tho)
** *** ****** **** $189 **** (*** ***)

*** *** ****% **** to ** **** *** 10M *******, ********** **** the *.*** **** *** Vivotek ***** ****** ***. Not **** **** *** are ***** *** ********** but *** **** ***** of ****** * *** give ***** ** * Netgate **-**** ($***). **** changing **** ****** ***** from ******* *** * good **** ** ******* off *** ******* *********** stuff **** *********/********/*****.

*** ******** *** *** all **** **** *** Cyberpower *** *** * graceful ********. **** *********** will ***** ** ********* the ***** **** *** UPS ** **** **** the ********* *****, ********, Switch, *** *** ** into *** ******* ***** and *** ******* *** USB **** *** *************.

**** ****!

** *****,

****** *** *** **** info - * **** look **** *****.  ** did *** ** * 360 ****** ** *** of *** *********** **** has ** *******, *** the ********* ** **** it *** *** **** to ***, *** *** company ***** ***** ** not ****** **.  * do ***** **** ****** those ** ***** ***** be **** *******, ** the **** ***** ** easy *** ****** (** mobile *** **********), *** resolution **** ****** (** it ********* * *** cameras ********, ** *** do **** *** *** 360 ****** ****?)

*** ** *******'* ****** app ** ***** ** ease ** *** *** reliability?

**** *** ****** ******* and *** *****.  ******* stuff ** ** **** for *******.  **'* **** someone's ******** *** **'* back ******.  

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********* ** *** **** I'd **** ***. ** is ********* **** *** be ******* ** *** camera ************ ** **** don't **** * **** interface, *** ***** *** multiple **** ** ****** fisheyes **** *** *******.

 

*'* *** ****** **** too ******* ** ******** now *** **** ****** them ** ** *** much ****** **** ********** a ******* ****** *** certain *****.

** *** **** ****** wiring, *** *** ********* or *** ***, *** can ******* *,*,* ** and **** ***** ******.

*** ** ******** ****** condition?

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**********:   * ** **** Solink,  *** ******* **** mentioned ***** (****** ****).  We "***" ** * fit *** *** *** we *** ********* ********** over *** *********** *** month **** *** ***** based ***** + *** Solution.  **** ** ******* this ** **** ******.