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Recommendations For Access Control/Securing Fence Gates On Athletic Field Without Hard-Wired Power

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Undisclosed Integrator #1
Sep 26, 2018

Looking to see if anyone has any recommendations on card readers/locks to secure swinging fence doors entering an athletic complex without the use of hard-wired power.  So, we're talking a battery or solar powered reader and lock. 

I've seen fence gates secured on boat dock piers, but I believe there was usually a power source handy somewhere nearby.

Imagine a athletic field surrounded by chain link fence with a couple of swinging "doors" that allow you to gain access to the field itself.

Thanks in advance.

 

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Brian Rhodes
Sep 26, 2018
IPVMU Certified

How big are the gates?  Are there currently operators opening/closing these gates?

If they are pedestrian gates, what sort of latch do they currently have?

UI
Undisclosed Integrator #1
Sep 26, 2018

There's not a lot to start with:

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Brian Rhodes
Sep 26, 2018
IPVMU Certified

That's helpful!  Does a reader need to be used, or is a keypad/ PIN acceptable?

 

UI
Undisclosed Integrator #1
Sep 26, 2018

They would prefer a reader for badges, but if the options are limited to keypad/PIN, it probably presents a few more options, correct?

Thx

UI
Undisclosed Integrator #2
Sep 26, 2018

A field that nice has to have a press box/concession stand. You can get power to those gate areas.  I would think that would be much cheaper than installing  a solar/battery option when hard power is less than 50' away...

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Jeffrey Hinckley
Sep 26, 2018

Salto.  They have credential based battery powered padlocks.  Reader credentials for this application seems like overkill.  I would think anybody could scale the fence, so what are they protecting.  Combination locks where the code can be changed would be the easiest.  Still, if they want to spend the money....

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UI
Undisclosed Integrator #1
Sep 26, 2018

Yes, thanks .... Salto is an interesting idea; used those once before at a site that had gates with padlocks. The project we used them on before had many doors, so the cost of the software, etc. was spread out over many portals. Not sure how Salto scales down to just two portals ... we'd need a hot spot as well, correct? So, there'd need to be a PC running the Salto software as well as being connected in real time to the hot spot.

I'm a little fuzzy on Salto details since it's been a few years since we used it.

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Sean Patton
Sep 27, 2018

Salto utilizes a data-on-card architecture, so you would need a single hardwired reader that programs the cards that can utilize the doors. The locks themselves do not connect to a hotspot/network at all, they receive all instructions from the credential, and then provide door events/battery life information back to the credential.

With only 2 "doors", and presumably a lower turnover of cards/cardholders, any data-on-card system could be a good option for you.

It's been a couple years since I looked at Salto pricing, but from what I recall it was competitive versus similar products from Yale, others.

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UI
Undisclosed Integrator #3
Dec 24, 2018

Agree with Salto. For installing a “door” lock on a gate, look at keedex gate boxes. Convert your gate into a standard door prep

 

you may also need to shroud the knob so they can’t reach over with a bat or long stick and push the lever to get in

UI
Undisclosed Integrator #3
Dec 24, 2018

Forgot to mention Kaba eplex/powerplex locks. Turning the knob/lever generates its own power so there are no batteries! 

Powerplex 2000 and 5000 series

UI
Undisclosed Integrator #6
Dec 27, 2018

These are a great option. I've seen many gates rigged up with this type of setup. You may need to talk to a fencing company to do some gate modifications though.

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Undisclosed #4
Dec 26, 2018

Perhaps someone should build an outdoor lock/reader combo that uses Bluetooth, every time a user creates a valid or invalid transaction the data is pushed by the user's phone back over to the ACS. Hotel locks can take 100s of offline transactions before needing to refresh the batteries. An alarm can be tagged with the users transaction to alarm that the battery needs to be charged, say a 20% threshold. 

UI
Undisclosed Integrator #5
Dec 27, 2018

POE, wireless.  No problem.

UI
Undisclosed Integrator #7
Dec 29, 2018

Abloy Cliq

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Undisclosed #8
Dec 29, 2018
IPVMU Certified

Odds are that by now the OP has already chosen the solution.

If so, perhaps he would like to share it? :)

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David Quinn
Jan 03, 2019

Hi - as #7 - Abloy Cliq is made for this scenario - although the cliq keys would need to be carried seperate to a "standard" card.

 

Thanks

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