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Questions On Starting To Look At AI To Support Our National SOC

UE
Undisclosed End User #1
Feb 29, 2020

Forgive the ignorance, but just starting to look at AI to support our National SOC:

Is the licence per camera transferable or is it a license bound to the camera hardware itself? Concern is that if a camera dies, do you have to buy the hardware and another license?

**** *** *** ****/**** ** ** on *** ******, ****** ** *** have * *********/******* ******, ***** *** server ***** ** (**** ***)? ********** benefits ** ******* ********** ** *** edge, *** *** ***** ***** ********* or ********** **** ****** ********?

***** **** ****** **** ***** ****** based ** ***** *** ***** ***** it ** ******* **** ***’* ********* support ** *** ****, **** ******** cameras ******** ** *** **, *** retain ********/****** ** *** ****** ***** to ** ********.

******: **** ******* *** ***** **** an ******** **********:**** ********* ******** ********, *** ***** Than ***** *** ****

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JH
John Honovich
Feb 29, 2020
IPVM

#*, **** *********!

*'** **** *****/*** ****** ** **** Axis ******* *** ********* *** *** transfer ******** ******** ** ********* ********.

**** *** *** ****/**** ** ** on *** ******, ****** ** *** have * *********/******* ******, ***** *** server ***** ** (**** ***)?

**** ********. ***** *** * *********** approaches ****:

  • ******-****: ***** *****-**, ** *** ****** cost *** **********. ********* **** ****** side *** / ** ***** ** still *** **** **** ***, *** your ********, **** * *** **** has **** ******** *******, ** **** the ******** ** **** *** ** for ********* *** ***** *******.
  • ***-**** ******** ** *** *** ********. As *** ******* **** ** * product / ******** ** *******, ******* example ***** ** ******** *** ********** Search / ******. *** ******* ** this ** ***** *********** *** **** complexity. ******* *** **** ****** ********* Kiwi, ************, ***. ********* ******** ** most ***** ***'* **** **** *********, you'll ******** ***** ******** ** ********* from **** *** ****** **** * rival's *** ** *** *** *********** benefits
  • ******/*** **** ** * *** *****. Examples ** **** ******* *********, *******, Vintra, ***. ****** ** **** ** that **** *** **** **** ****** analytic ******** **** *** **** **** are *** ********* ****** * *** or ******. ******** ** **** ** typically ** **** ********* *** ******* to ******.

** *** ****:

**** ******** ******* ******** ** *** AI

****'* ** *********** ****. ** **** this **** **** **** ** ****, though *** **** ********* ***** ****** cameras ** * *** ****. ********* still **** ****** ********** ******* ** a ****** ******, ** ** ******* about ******* **** ******.

**** **** ****? **** *********?

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Sonny Tai
Mar 01, 2020
Actuate

**** ****-***** *********, **** ******* ***-*********** hardware (****** ******* ** ***** *******), which *** ****** ********* ********* - not **** *** *** ******** ******, but **** *** ************ *** ***********.

**** * ******** ***, * ***'* see *** *** ***** **** *****-***** deployment ***** ** ****-********.

**** **********: ** *** *** ** the *****-***** ********* *******.

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JH
John Honovich
Mar 01, 2020
IPVM

**** ****-***** *********, **** ******* ***-*********** hardware (****** ******* ** ***** *******), which *** ****** ********* *********

* ***'* *** **** ***** *** cameras. **** *** **** '*******' ****** cameras *** ****** *** **** ** built-in.

**** * ******** ***, * ***'* see *** *** ***** **** *****-***** deployment ***** ** ****-********.

*** ** ***** ****-********? ***** ********* generally ****** $** - $** *** camera *** ***** ***** **** ** quickly ******** ** ****** / **-**** deployments. ****, **** ***** *********? **** about *******? * ***'* ***** ***** based ** ** ******** *** * national *** *********** *** ****'* **** chance ** ***** ** *****.

VD
Valery Dubovets
Mar 01, 2020
IPVMU Certified

*** ** ***** ****-********? ***** ********* generally ****** $** - $** *** camera *** ***** ***** **** ** quickly ******** ** ****** / **-**** deployments.

**** * ****** ***** ***** ** my ****** **********... * ***** **** week ********* *** ********** *** ***** day ****** * *** ** *** (Cloud ******** ********) *******. *************, *** presenters - *** ****** *****-***** ********* (not ***** ************ ************, *** *** general *****-***** ************) ***** *** **** years - **** **** ***** ********* ARE **** ********* *** **** *** there *** ** **** ***** ** a "***** *****". *** ***** ********* (mostly *****, ***** ************, ***.) *** spending **** ***** *** **** ******.

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Sonny Tai
Mar 01, 2020
Actuate

* ***'* **** ***** ******* *** wrong, *** * ********** ********** *** opportunity *** * ************ ************. *'** learned * **** ** * *** over *** **** *** ***** ** IPVM, ** ***** *** *** ******** such * *************, ********, *** ********* resource.

** *** **** ***** ********, **** I ** ****** ******** ** ** the *********** ** ********. ***, ***-*********** cameras **** ****** **** ****** *** the ***** **** ******** ** **** (Moore's ***), *** *** ************ ******** of ******* *** ***** *** *** going ** ** *** ***********, ** you ****** **** ** ******* **** with *** *******, **** * *** server ** ****, ** *** ** cloud *********.

** ******* **** ****** ********, * can't ****** ***** ** **** ***** cloud ***** ********* ******, *** *** us, *** ******* ********* ***** ** at *** *** *** ** **** range, ***** *** ****** ********* ***** is ************* *****. *** ********* ** this *** ****** - *** ***** cloud ********* **** ********* ** ***** and *** **** ** ******* ******* load ********* *** *********** ***** ****** you ** **** *** *** ** much ******* ** ***'** ********* - which ** ************* ******* **** ********* your ** ****** ************** **** *** GPU *********** ******* ** ********** * Tesla **** **** ** ****.

** *** ********* *********** - ** you ******* ******** ****** ** * fairly *** ***** **** (** **** for ** *** ** ****** ***********), VMD, *** *.*** (** ******) ***********, you *** ******* ********** *** ******** per ****** ******* ********** ********* ********* accuracy.

*** *******, ** ****'* **** ** issue *** ** - ********* **'** seen ****** **** ******* ** ****** ~1 ******. *******, ** **** ********** we **** *****'* *** * *******, 1,000+ ******* ********** ***** ** ***** complicate *** *****.

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JH
John Honovich
Mar 03, 2020
IPVM

*** ***** ***** ********* **** ********* of ***** *** *** **** ** provide ******* **** ********* *** *********** which ****** *** ** **** *** for ** **** ******* ** ***'** consuming - ***** ** ************* ******* than ********* **** ** ****** ************** with *** *** *********** ******* ** installing * ***** **** **** ** site.

** **? *'* **** ** ** convinced **** ****** ***** *** *******. We *** *** *** ******* ******** and **'* ***** *********. *******, *** a *******, ** ***** * *** of ***** ***** *** ******* *** public ****** *** *****, ** **** times **** ** **** ** ***** up, ***. *** * ***** **-**** surveillance **************, * ** **** *********.

* ** ***** *** *** ********* on *** ***** *** *** *********** cameras ** ********** * ***** ****. What ********* *** *** ********* ** do? *** ****** **** *** *********, fine *** *** **** ****** ** use ***** ** ****** *** **** is *** ***** ** ******* **** from **** *********.

** *** ******* ******** ****** ** a ****** *** ***** **** (** need *** ** *** ** ****** recognition), ***, *** *.*** (** ******) compression, *** *** ******* ********** *** bitrates *** ******

"********** ***" ** *********** ** *** sure **** *** **** ** '********** low' *** *** ***** ** **** to ** *** ******* ******** *** second, *********, ****** *****, ** ***** are ***** ******* (***** *** *** assuming, **** *** ******* ***/* ** more. *** ***** ***** ** ** 100 ******* *** ****, * *** or **** ***** *** ***** ***** to **** ****** **** ****.

*** *******, ** ****'* **** ** issue *** ** - ********* **'** seen ****** **** ******* ** ****** ~1 ******.

**** ******* ** ** * *** hard ** *******. *** **** *** video ** ****, *** **** **** that ***** ** *** *****, *** need ** ******* ** ** *** cloud (** **'* *.***/*, *** ********** it, **?), **** * ******** *** then **** ** ***** *** ***** or ****. *** ** **** ** ~1 ******? *** *** ***** *** the ******* ** ****?

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AB
Asaf Birenzvieg
Mar 01, 2020
viisights

******* ********* ***** **** *** *** use-cases ** ********?

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Carter Maslan
Mar 02, 2020
Camio

** ********* ** *** ***** ** the ************ ********** * ***** *** and ** ****** * ******* ***** ****** ** ******* ******** ** the *̸*̸*̸*̸*̸*̸*̸*̸ ******** ********

*'* *** ** *****, *** ** specialize ** ***** (** ******** ****) if ***'* **** ** *******.

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AK
Amit Kumar
Mar 02, 2020
Dragonfruit.ai

*** ** ***** *** *** *** separate ********* ****, ** * ***:

*. ********* ********* ****** **** *******.
*. ****** ** ** *** ** vs ****** **
*. (*******) **** ********** (******/***/******) ** Cloud
*. ***** ***** ********** **** *********** in ** ***********

** #*, * ***** **** *** most ******** ** *** ******** **********, so *'** **** **** ***.

** #*, *'* ******** *** ******* 'jobs' ***'** ****** ** **. ** the ***** *** **** **** *** system **** **** ****** ******* *** last *** *****, *** *** ******** the ********* ***** ** *** ** systems ******* *** ********* **** *** deploy **** ****.

****** **** ****, ****** **, ************ from ********* *** ***** ** *********, will ** **** ********** *** *** better *******. *** ** ***'** *** really ******* *** ******** '******' ****, say, **** *********, *** *** ** or ****** ** ***** **** ****-******.

*** *** ** ** ****** ** be **** ******* *** **** ** improve, ***** **** *** **** ***** off-the-shelf '******' *** ***** **** ******** on *** ** **. **** *****'* mean **'* ***, ***** **** ***** be *** *** **** ***** ***.

*** ****** ** ** ******* '***** in' (***, *** *** ** ******** upgrades *** ****'* ******* *******; ** you **** ***'* ******* ** * faster *******), ** **** ***********.

** #*, **'** *** ********* ** doing ** ** *** *****, ** the ****, ******* *** *** ****** leverage *** **** ****** ********, ********, cost ************ *** ** ****** *** cost ** ***** ********-**** ** ** 1/10th *** **** (*** ****'* *** even ********* *** ******** *** ***'* have ** ***).

***** **** ************* **** *** ***** issues **** ******** ******** ** *** cloud, ** ** ***: ********* *** cost.

*** *********** ** **** ***** ******* kinda ***** *****, *** ***** *** the **** ********* ****** ** ******!

*** ******** (***** *** *** ****) is ** ***** ***** **, *** just ** '*********', *** **** ** storage *** ************. **, ** *** store ***** ** */**** *** **** of **-**** (***** ********* **'** ******** called '***** **') *** *** ******** it *** ****** **** ****** (********* so *** ***'* *** **********).

** #*, **** ** ********** ****. By ****** *** ** **** **** in *** *****, **** ******** *******, potentially ****** ******** *********, *** *** do ********* ************** ****** ***** *** time.

****'* *** ***** ****** – ***** traditionally ********* **** ****** ** ******/*******, SOCs **** *** ********** ** ******* AI ** ** ***** ** **** and *********** (*.*. **** ******* ** transferable ********)

** *** ******** ***** ** (**** we ** ***********.** ********* **) ** integrate ***** ******* *** *********. *.*. we ******* **** *** *** ***' you ****, ****** *** *** ********* you ****, *** ********** **** ***** the ******** ** *** ******* ***-******* cloud *********.

** *** ** **** *******, **'** built ** ************** ********** **** *** apply ** ** *** ****** *** want, **** ******** ******* ********, *** be **** ** ******* ********** ********. The **** ********* ** ***** ** the ****** ** **** ****** ($**/**/** and *****), ********** ** *** ****** of ******** *** ****.

** ** (*********) *****, ** ***'** in *** ********* ******** ** ***, you *** *** ******* ** ******** off *** ********** ***, ***** ***** stored ***** ** ******, ****** ********** (w/audit ******), *****-********, ***.

* **** **** **** *****-***** ** works ***** ****** *** ********* *** cases *****, ** ****-**** **********. ******* issues, ** **** *****, *** ***** real.

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #2
Mar 02, 2020

***** ***** ****** ***** ** ******, access ********** (*/***** ******), *****-********, ***.

**** **'* * **** ***** **** there **** ***** **** ******** ** any ***** ***** ************ *** **** their ********** *** ***** **** ************.

**** ** * **** *********. **** your ******* ***** ** **** **** a *********?

AK
Amit Kumar
Mar 02, 2020
Dragonfruit.ai

***** *** ************* ** ******** ** any ****** – *** ******** ****** breach *** ** ******** **-******* ******, for ********. ***-****** ******* *** ***** to ** ****** ** ********, *** as ** ****, **** ***** *** be ******** ******* *********** ***** ** USB **** *** *** ****.

***** ** ** ****** ***** ** our *******, ** ******* *** **** generally ***** *** *****. *****'* * lot ** *** ****, ****, *************, about *** *****, *** ** **'* good ****** *** *-****** ******** ***** (albeit **** ********), ***** **** ******** practices, **'* ******** **** ****** *** most ** **.

UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #2
Mar 02, 2020

*** *** ** ************** ** ****** to ****, *** ** ***** ******* asking **** ** #* ****'* ** achieve ************ **. *****, ***** *** Scenarios (*** *********** ** **** *****).

*** ************ *** ** ***** *****, then *** *** ***** *** ** built.

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AK
Amit Kumar
Mar 02, 2020
Dragonfruit.ai

******!

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