Any Drawing Guidelines When Pulling Permits?

What do you typically put on a plan? We have a new construction project, 11 doors, 5-6 cameras, intercom, and intrusion (mostly wireless). We are not doing the fire on this project

We already have a design showing where all the devices are going, do I need to show all the wire runs or cable being run to each device? On our fire plans, my estimator makes me draw each wire run, showing how many devices are on each circuit etc. Do I need to do that for the doors, or can I just say 1 18/6 and 1 18/2 to each door?

Do I need to specify we are NOT connecting access control to the FACP? Everything is HES 9400 with RIM bars and one door with a HES 5200.

And I am sure it depends on the AHJ, just looking for what is typical.

We never pull permits, as it just isn't enforced here. But we had a scare recently where I though we were going to have to open walls, etc so... not again

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* ***** **** ** AHJ ** ****** **** used * ******* ** NFPA ** **** * had * **** **** finding. **** *** *** last ******* **** *** adopted, ***** ** ***** earlier *** ***** ** finding “** *** ***”.

*** ************ *** ***** tenant ************ ******* ******* or ******* *******.

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