This morning, Peter Goldring emailed us the following, copied verbatim:
Post this in its entirety (that means the whole email, not the parts you pick).
IPVM’s Integrator Finder under the tools tab on the website lists 3,074 entries. ADR Security is listed as a paying member, with a “certificate”. ADR hasn’t paid in years and the company has never taken any “IPVM training” and never received any “certificates”. No one at ADR ever requested to be listed on the finder.
Please explain this misleading discrepancy and how the integrator finder is populated. Does an installing company request it? What about the companies that are neither members nor “certified”? Of IPVM’s alleged “15,000 paying members”, 11,926 aren’t installing companies and don’t want to be listed? Doesn’t make sense.
Eagerly awaiting your explanation.
For background on Goldring, Peter Goldring: "Hono-The-Clown Is Well Known Among The People Who Lead The Industry. I'm Just The One Who Plans To Make IPVM Go Away."
The Integrator Finder was released in 2015 (see announcement), has near negligible usage, and has not been properly maintained for years. That said, the errors in the listing are entirely our fault and we have promptly removed the subscriber and certification displays to rectify that.
To answer Peter's specific questions:
- The ADR discrepancy is because we have not properly maintained / updated the integrator finder. For the certified person listed, the best I can tell is that it was a manual admin error. We do maintain a list of names of most but not all IPVM Certified Professionals here.
- 90%+ of the integrator finder listings were added in 2015 / 2016 and very few since.
- In 2015 / 2016, we manually added many integrators. Some others have requested to be added and we have added some from time to time.
- There are far more than 3,074 integrators around the world. The Integrator Finder does not come close to comprehensively listing integrators. Of course, many integrators have multiple subscribers to IPVM. And then there are various other people who pay to subscribe to IPVM who are not integrators.
I have agreed to the audit and I am awaiting Goldring to actually pay for a credential auditor to start. We take responsibility for any errors and we answer directly to criticism publicly as we have done here.
UPDATE: Goldring has reneged on the audit declaring "I’m out. Reneging on my offer. Post whatever you want. Cancel my membership and refund the remainder of the year", concluding "You are a hoax, a fraud and a charlatan.Peter Goldring"