New Ubiquiti Product: PoE Lamp

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Brian Rhodes
Aug 10, 2018
IPVMU Certified

Ubiquiti has announced UniFi LED lamp fixtures:

It is PoE powered (802.3at) and works with 802.3af powered dimmer switches. To use it, a UBNT Controller has to be running.

Pricing is ~$140 for the light and ~$50 for the dimmer. According to the website, sales are limited to the US for now. 

We spotted PoE's trend to lighting several years ago: Integrators, Replace Electricians With PoE Lighting, and with Ubiquiti's release, a low-cost practical device seems to be available.

Would you use or sell this?

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Undisclosed Integrator #1
Aug 10, 2018

I'd consider using it..

 

If it like most of their products the price point should below comparable product's if you are willing to put up with some glitches in the initial phase...

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Undisclosed Integrator #2
Aug 10, 2018

I just ordered one. Let me know if you want me to review it when it comes in.

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Undisclosed #3
Aug 10, 2018

I'd be interested to know, from an installation perspective, does this now qualify as an IT (low voltage) device versus electrical/lighting device?  Will the electrical unions have an issue? How does prevailing wage installation pay scales come into play?

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Brian Rhodes
Aug 10, 2018
IPVMU Certified

I'm not sure the unions have jurisdiction in the switch rack. 

Integrators can argue that the electrical unions don't have clout with Access Points, Switches, or Cameras, and this lamp is an extension of those systems.

Am I off here?

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Undisclosed #4
Aug 10, 2018

Unions are whining about the power they give to the rack and thus should own the installation of all the child devices from their power source.

Union techs may be able to figure out a screwdriver and mount a few devices but once it comes to configurations they are absolutely useless. The cost burden of Union Labor is not work anything labeled IoT or Plug n Play.

The battle has not been won, the Union is losing a lot of work to low voltage systems, too bad imho.

::Friday Funnies::

Senior Union Technician: Hey, what work do you have for me today?

PM: I need to install this LED panel in the ceiling grid, the site is over in the city.

Senior Union Technician: Ok, well that's a minimum 4 hour trip charge and I want to make sure I get my 8 hours.

PM: That's fine, once your there I have a couple of other things for you to do once you are done.

Senior Union Technician: Cool! It looks like this just hangs in the ceiling grid and plugs in, is there a network drop already there?

PM: Yes, the drop is there.

Senior Union Technician: (Calls PM 4 hours later). Hi, Um I got that light installed, what else do you have for me to do?

PM: Awesome, send me a pic of the installation. Next I need for you to adopt that Unifi light and update the firmware and give me a screen shot of the configuration page. Last there are also 2 cameras onsite that need firmware upgrades.

Senior Union Technician: Firmwhat? Just to let you know I'm not certified on firmware things.

PM: /facepalm

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Brian Rhodes
Aug 10, 2018
IPVMU Certified

Unions are whining about the power they give to the rack and thus should own the installation of all the child devices from their power source

Next up: inciting the Millwrights and Teamsters to pull rank on the Electricians for setting up the power plants and trucking in the fuel to fire them!

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Undisclosed #4
Aug 10, 2018

Already going to order two for my office to start bench testing. Yes I would sell it for small business. Fast deployment with other UBNT product line.

I only wish it had an Alexa interface.

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Undisclosed #5
Aug 10, 2018
IPVMU Certified

Waiting for the Hik version ;)

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Undisclosed #6
Aug 10, 2018

Not surprised to see this at all, this has been a coming trend in building automation. I'm not sure if the average UBNT dealer is going to be able to do much in the commercial architecture space though, maybe they plan to move this through a different channel?

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Michael Miller
Aug 10, 2018

I am becoming less and less interested in UBNT.  Their Airmax gear works well which is what they should stick with but the rest of the stuff is not perfect.   Every couple of weeks we have some random issue with our UNFI switches.  Their CCTV cameras are a joke and then there is the Flavor Flav camera.  Pick something and get good at it stop trying to be everything to everyone.  Stock issues are a major problem too.

Now they are suing Cambium Networks because Cambium figured out how to install Elevate firmware on the UBNT hardware so customers frustrated with UBNT don't have to swap hardware to switch platforms. 

POE lighting interests me but UBNT POE lighting doesn't.

 

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Undisclosed Integrator #2
Aug 10, 2018

Yeah, Apple should have just stuck with Macs and laptops.  Venturing into other products like phones watches, tablets and music just doesn't make sense.

Amazon should stick with product distribution.  Web hosting services? Alexa? BAHHH

Google should just do search.  Android? HAH!

'Get off my lawn!!!'

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Michael Miller
Aug 10, 2018

But Apple produces products that work, don't have stock issues and don't stop developing products. 

 

How many Flaver Flav cameras do you own?

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Michael Miller
Aug 11, 2018

Update: looking into the UBNT VS Cambium Networks lawsuit.  UBNT is also suing end users (WIPS) and Winncom Tech distribution.  This is not going over well with the UBNT customer base. 

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