A key consideration here is budget, but since you have cited all high end, expensive cameras, I presume that is not a major barrier?
There's lots of low cost integrated IR cameras, so if you wanted to save money, that would be one route.
In general, though, for high end use, when comparing 'super' low light and integrated IR cameras, the factors are:
- Very very dark (1 lux and lower), use integrated IR as 'super' low light cameras tend to be very grainy in such conditions
- Need to see color and / or already have street lights around, use 'super' low light.
See: Super Low Light vs Integrated IR Shootout
Chesapeake & Midlantic | 03/24/14 09:26pm
Generally speaking (BOCTAOE) integrated IR cameras give you better performance than low light capable cameras, because low light capable cameras only enhance available light, while IR integrated cameras add more light to the scene. Two sconce lights probably aren't enough to make a real difference to lighcatcher or lightfinder or lightseeker or whatever cameras anyway.
The best option is to use independent IR illuminators such as, to pick a product at random, Axton's AT-16S There's only so many IR LEDs you can cram into a camera, but if you get an independant, stand-alone unit, you can get more LEDs, and those LEDs can be spread out more. This gives you more even lighting (instead of only illuminating the center of the image, which is what happens with integrated IR).
Axis has a nifty tool illustrating the concept, part of their lighting tutorial.
The Axis P3363 has great low light performance and additional IR lights if you want, but that illuminator might be limited in angle/orientation. We'll test that in a few days, but the cam has outstanding results with external IR beamers. If you have only some `foreign` light avilable (street light,...), no IR is needed. I would try to get the cam for demo and see the results... All the best, Patrick
Budget is no problem. We are willing to spend whatever amount for the security. We are on 5 acres and in horse country. It's very quiet here and there are no street lights on our street and so it is very dark at night. The problem is we have already wired the home, and are in the last stages of construction (e.g. we're moving in shortly). Are there any alternatives to the Axis that are small with great features? (Avigilon?)
Anyhow, Vigil: The P3363 does not have IR, did you mean the P3364? Using the product finder on axis site, with outdoor ready, day& night, lightfinder and built in IR, all I see if the P3364-LVE. These will all be external ceiling mount, nothing will be on the wall, not sure but I've never mounted one of these on the ceiling?
A lot of great information in the articles, however I need to analyze it and come up with the best solution. As you all know, clients (in this case myself), sometimes want the best, but the most discreet at the same time.
Attached is the front door, you can see the cable hanging down where the camera will be mounted. The front door faces north, and there are two electrical boxes where the sconces will be. This is one of I think 9 or 10 doors... It looks like we will need IR, just to find one with integrated that works will now.
IPVMU Certified | 03/25/14 04:07pm
Avigilon will not sell direct to endusers. I am not clear if you plan to do this job yourself or hire it out, but keep in mind that channel brands may limit the product you can choose from if you're a DIYer.
For the camera at the front door, is the primary goal for that camera to see people knocking? Or are you wanting to see the approach to the door, ie: a walkway?
the Axis IR beamer for this cam is called Axis T90A, see page 5 (accessories) of this document:
You get it optionally with PoE.
Following Axis, you can rotate the lens, so ceilling mount should work also...
I have installed many Avigilon "lightcatcher" cameras.
Very good when you have some light and just like Axis cameras not so good if you have no light.
Thanks for all the assistance. I will have to do some more research before I pick these out.