Nest / Dropcam Integration Details

Just months after Google / Nest bought Dropcam, Nest has announced the first 2 integrations between their thermostats and Dropcam; one of which is minor, but the other has important value in solving an ongoing problem.

Here's Nest's description:

"When your Nest Protect alarm goes off, Dropcam records a clip of the smoke or carbon monoxide event and saves it for you, regardless of whether you pay for Cloud Recording. And when you set your Nest Thermostat to Away and walk out the door, Dropcam automatically turns on motion alerts so you’ll know if anyone’s in the house. You can buy Dropcam in stores and online and, if you have any questions about your Dropcam or how it works with Nest, phone support will now be available 24/7."

The later, effectively turning off alerts when home, can reduce nuisance notifications, a common problem, known in the industry and recently highlighted in a WSJ critique of home surveillance cameras.

On the other hand, obviously one needs to buy both a Nest and a Dropcam, so that limits the applicable market. However, it is a useful step to make alerts more meaningful.


I'm curious if they'll use the Protect's presence sensors at some point. They're mostly used to turn the nightlight on, I believe, and may not be as sensitive as a dedicated PIR (or maybe they are, they don't really talk about them), but they could be an optional event source to trigger Dropcam recordings, as someone passes beneath it.

Maybe a house full of sensors which are not the most accurate on their own can be combined to improve accuracy? Hey, it helps them sell more Dropcams, and Nests, and Protects. :)

Maybe a house full of sensors which are not the most accurate on their own can be combined to improve accuracy?

I think you just described PSIM's greatest hopes.

I'm leery of DropCam, beyond 1 camera, on a home network. Until they make the motion analytics perform on the edge...anything beyond 1 camera will bring down the average home networks bandwidth when it comes to upload.

The Dropcam HDs my neighbors have use 0.5 Mbps for fairly busy scenes. (b, not B)

Even our miserable ISP gives us an average of 8.5 Mbps per modem.

They run 3 at a time. No crashing home networks for them.

The average, in my opinion, is between .7 and 1 for residential upload speeds from a cable company. Download speeds usually very between 7 to 13.

Read a majority of the DropCam support comments when people buy additional cameras because they liked the first. You will see returns and big disappointment.

They are up front about what the bandwidth draw is so people need to know what they have before they buy another camera. I know it is a MINIMUM .5Mbps, but mine runs way more than that.

Ross- Holy smokes. Do you have it pointed at a very busy intersection or in a lobby full of people?

"Each Dropcam uses approximately 0.2Mbps of upload bandwidth, and depending on the conditions, can peak up to 0.5 Mbps"

I have it pointed at my living room and front door area which also has a very large picture window as well as the glass in the front door. So whenever the clouds part and the sun peeks through it goes bonkers with alerts. I also have two very active cats that tend to chase and antagonize the dog. So between light changes and the animals there is quite a bit of activity.

I will run another check tonight and see what kind of bandwidth it is using.