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My Experience With Local Integrators Has Not Been Positive - Quoting 2 To 3x Amazon/B&H Pricing - Stuck In Old Ways

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Undisclosed End User #1
•May 30, 2019

My experience with local reseller/integrator has not been positive. When I need to order 1 or 2 cameras I go to Amazon or B&H especially when I need it in rush.

But I thought I would give my business to local companies where I live. One company quoted me 3 times the price on B&H/Amazon. Another local company 2 times. This is just to order (no install). Have they heard of the Internet where anyone can check prices? They are stuck in old ways.

******: **** ******* *** ***** **** an ******** **********:** *** ******** *** ***** ***** Of *** *** ****, *** ****** The ********* ** *** ********

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John Honovich
•May 30, 2019
IPVM

#*, ******. * **** **** *** own ****. * ***** **'* *********** to *******.

******** ********** **** **** *&* / Amazon ** ************** ***, ** **** point, ***** ** ** **** ** not.

**** ** **** ** ***** (** install). 

* ** ****** ** *** ********* of ***** *********** ** **** **** just *** *** **** ** ** bothered *****  ***** ** ** *******, though * ***** * ****** ****-**** strategy ***** ** ** **** * little ***** **** *** ******* ******, build * ************ *** **** ********** get ******* / ******* ********.

***********, **** ** *** *****? *** do *** ****** **** **********?

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Undisclosed #2
•May 30, 2019
In reply to John Honovich

*** ********** ** ******** ****** ** close ** *** ******/** ***** ***** from ***** ***********. * ***** ******, an ********** ***'* ****** ** ********* at *** *****. ** ***** **** time ** ******* *** *****, ******* it, ******** **, *** ***** *** payment *****. * ******'* ***** ***** box ***** ***** *** **% ****** margins ** ** **********.

**** ***** **** **** * *****? But **** *** *** **** *** the *****, ** **** **** ** through *** ********** *****?

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #3
•May 30, 2019
In reply to Undisclosed #2

* ******* *****. *'** **** ** the ********** **** ** **** ****, and *** *** *** **** ** the **** **** *********, ********, ********. Distributors *** *** ** *** ***** small ************. **** *********** *** ***. I *** ******** ******* *********** ** mark ****** **** **** ** ** least ***% **** * *** ** the *********** **** ** *** ********. 

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U
Undisclosed #2
•May 30, 2019
In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #3

****** ** ******* *** ***** ****, pack, **** ******* ***. *** ********* are *********** ** ****?

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UI
Undisclosed Integrator #5
•May 30, 2019
In reply to Undisclosed #2

*** ***'* ****** *** ******-** ***** about *** ******. 

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Meghan Uhl
•Nov 14, 2019
In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #5

** ** **********, ** *** *** user "**** ***** ** *** * camera", ** * **** ** ** them *** ***** *** *** ******** with ***** *******, *'* *** *** that **** *** **** *** ** expected ** **** **** ******* ***** it, ******* *** *** ** ****** etc. ** **** ***'* ***** **** risk *** **%.

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UI
Undisclosed Integrator #20
•Jun 06, 2019
In reply to John Honovich

*'** *** ********* **** ** **** have ***** ******** **'** ******* *** cheaper ** *** ********. * ********* them ** *** **** *** *** internet. ** **** ** **********, ********* our ****** ** ** ****** **** yours. ** **'** *** ***** ** turn * ****** *** ** *** sale **** *** ***** *** ****, especially **** *** ******** *** ******** involved.

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UE
Undisclosed End User #1
•May 30, 2019

***** ***** *** **** ** *** camera?  *** *** *** *******?

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U
Undisclosed #4
•May 30, 2019
IPVMU Certified

*&* *** ****** *** *** *** same *****.

*&* ** *****, ******* ********** ********* product, ******** *** **** ** *** US.

****** ***** ** ********.

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MM
Michael Miller
•May 30, 2019
In reply to Undisclosed #4

*&* ** *****, ******* ********** ********* product, ******** *** **** ** *** US

**** **** ******* **** ********?

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Undisclosed #4
•May 30, 2019
IPVMU Certified
In reply to Michael Miller

**** **** ******* **** ********?

** **** *****...

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UI
Undisclosed Integrator #5
•May 31, 2019
In reply to Undisclosed #4

** **** *** *** ** ** office **** **** *** **** ** they *** *** **********.   

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JH
John Honovich
•May 31, 2019
IPVM
In reply to Undisclosed #4

**** ******** **** *&* ** *** authorized, *** ** * ***********, *** as * ******* *** ** * 'dealer' ** *&* *******.

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MM
Michael Miller
•May 31, 2019
In reply to John Honovich

* **** ****.  **** *** **** are *** ***** *** ******** *** they *** **** ******. 

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UE
Undisclosed End User #1
•May 31, 2019
In reply to John Honovich

* **** ****** **** **** *&* with * **** ******** ********.  ***** are **** ******** **** *** * wonder? *** ******** *** **** **** Axis ** * ****** *&* **** to **.  ** * *** *** email **** *** **** **** *** the ********.  ** **** **** ** X **** ** *&* **** ** me?  

***** ** *** **** **** ** justify * ** * ***** ***** of *&* ******* ** ******* **** delusional *******.  * **** **** *** support *** *&*.  **** **** * buy ****** *** **** **********/******** * call **** *** ******* *** *** integrator/reseller.  

**** ******* ** ********* *** ***** back-end ****, ** **** **** ** that **** **** *** *******'* ** in *** ******** ** ***** ****.  

*****, * ** ******* ** *** little **** **** ** **** ******** to ***** ****** **** *&* ***** is ** **.  *** *** ** order, * **** ****** ****** ** business ** ***** ******* *** *** get ** **** **  ******* **** Axis *****.  * ** ******** *** have ******* ** **** **** **** in *.*. ***** ** *** ******** I ** **. 

*** ** ** *** **** ************ where * *** ***** **** **** you ********* ************ *** *******.  

*** ******* **** * *** ******* for ******* (*** ****** *******) **** to ***** *** ***** **** ** the *****.  * ******* **** **** really *******.  *** **** *** **** me * ***** *** **** **** that *** ** *** *&* *****. 

** *.*., ** ** **** ** the ****** *** ** ******** ** not **** ******** *** **** ************ services.  *** ******* *** ******** **** goes **** **.  

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UI
Undisclosed Integrator #5
•May 31, 2019
In reply to Undisclosed End User #1

**** *** ** ******* * ***'* think *** ********** *** **** ** have **** ** ***** ******* ** multiple ********* **** * ***** ** vans *** ****** ****** **** *****.  We **** ******* **/* * **** onsite *******.  **** ***** ***** ** make ****** 

**** ** **** *** **** ** Axis ****** **** ******* *** ******* purchased **** *&*.   **** *** **** support ** *** **** **** *** purchased **** *&*?

*** **** ** ** **** **** Axis ******* *** ** **** ***** of ***** ***** **** ** **** dont ***** ************ ****** ***** *** they ** ******* ***** *&*.

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Undisclosed Integrator #10
•May 31, 2019
In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #5

** *** ** ** **** ******* with **** ******* **** **** ***** asked ** ***** * ********* ** camera **** **** **** ** ** help ** ******* *** *****.

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David Fogle, CSEIP
•Jun 10, 2019
In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #10

***** *** *** *** **** **** catch ** **** **** ********** *** then *** *** **** **** ******* it *** **** *** **** **** you **** ******* ** ****, ***** sorry ** *** *** ****** ** mean *******. *** *** * *** cameras **** ** * ***** ***** and ** **** **** *** *** you **** **** ** ********* **** and ** ** *** ** ** until *** **** * ****** **** 67 ********* ******** *** ********* ** a ***** **** ** ***** ****** in *** *******.

**** *** ** *** ***** *** relationship **** ***** **** *** ** had ** *** ************.

****** *** ** **** ******* **** business *** ********* *** *** ****** we *** ** ***** ** *** see *** **** *** ***** ******.

** ** ***** *** ***** ******* not **** *** **** *** ******.

 

 

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UI
Undisclosed Integrator #23
•Nov 14, 2019
In reply to David Fogle, CSEIP

**** ******! *'* *** **** *** this *** **** ***** ** ** so ********** *** *************. ** ****** like **'* *** * ***** **** going ** *** ******* ***** **** meeting *** ****** ** ********** ** his ***** *******. * ***** ** should **** * ***** ******* ***** or **** ***** ** ******* ** something *** *** **** **. ** obviously *****'* *** *** ***** ** what ** ** **, ** *******'* do ******** **** *********** ****** ***.

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SD
Shannon Davis
•Jun 18, 2019
IPVMU Certified
In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #10

**** **** **** ******* *** ***** but **** **** ****'* ******** ** do ** ********* * ****** ****** it ***** **** *** ****** *******. My ***** ** **** ***** *** that ** ****.

UE
Undisclosed End User #1
•May 31, 2019
In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #5

**** ** ********** ** ***** ** making **% ** ******** *** ** do **** **** ** *****, ***** of ****, ***?  *********** *** ****** treat ** ** * **** ***** you *** ******* ** ***** ** when * ** ******* *** *** a *****.  $* **** *** ******** acquisition.  $* **** *** *********.  

*** *** ******* * ****** *** win *** *** **** *****.  * do ******* **** *** ***'* **** my ********.  ****** ***** ** ** is **** *** **** *** *** not **** ** ** **** ** fill *** *** ****** *********** *** bank ****, *** *** **** *** hit ** **** ** ****** ***** as *** ** *** ******* ***.

*** ***** * **** **** *** tell *** * ****** **** *?  What *** **** *** ** ** with ********?  *** ******* ** ***** warranty *** * **** *** **** extended ********.  ** **** *** *** invoice * ***** **** ** ******* it.  *** ** **** ****** ******* on ******* * ********* **** * would **** ** **** ** *&* and *** *** **** ***** *****.

* *** *** ** ******* ** this ****** *** ********** ** ****** that ****** *** ********.  * ********** that **** ** ****** **** ** industry **** ******* ** *.*.  *.*. got ********* **** ******* **** **** industry.

****** ** ******, *** *** ** purchasing, **********, *** ********* ** ***** disrupted.  

** * ********/*** **** *** **** to *** *** *** *** ***** has ** ****** ****** ** *****.  And *****.  **** ******** **** **** longer **** ******.  *** **** **** to ******* **** **** ** ***** ways. 

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U
Undisclosed #4
•May 31, 2019
IPVMU Certified
In reply to Undisclosed End User #1

**** ** ********** ** ***** ** making **% ** ******** *** ** do **** **** ** *****, ***** of ****, ***? *********** *** ****** treat ** ** * **** ***** you *** ******* ** ***** ** when * ** ******* *** *** a *****.

*** ***’* *** ****** *#* ********** that ** ** *** ***** *** while ** **** ***-**** ** ** points ****?  *** ***** ** *******?

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U
Undisclosed #7
•May 31, 2019
In reply to Undisclosed End User #1

**** ** ********** ** ***** ** making **% ** ******** *** ** do **** **** ** *****, ***** of ****, ***?

******* ** ********** ** *** ** to ******* **** **** ** ***** and ******* **** ***** ** ****, not **** ***-*** ****** *** *****. I ******* ** *** *** ** what *** **** ** ****, *** you ****'* ******* *** ******* ** -- *** ******* *** ***** ******, and **** ***** **** ** ***** with ***** **** *********?

* ****, *********...*&* ** ********* ** online ***********. **** **** ** ****** storefront ***** *** **, **** **** you ****, *** *** *******, *** place *** *****. ***** ** ** doubt **** **** **** * *********** software ** ***** **** ********** **** order *********** ******** **** * ******** label **** ** ********* ** ***** shipping *******, *** ** **** ** they **** *** ***** ** ***** to ** ** *** *********** ******, they ***** * ******, *** ***** prints *** **'* ***** ** **** out. *** ***** ******* ***** **** an ********** ** *** *&* *********** maybe ** ******* **** ***** ** finish, ******** ** ***** **** ** seconds ** **** ** *** ***** and **** *** **** *** ******* off ** **. **** *****, *** billing/invoicing ** ******* **** ******* *** paid ******, *** *** ***** ** closed. *** ***, *** ** **** B&H ** ******* ** ******** ** do **.

**** *** *** *** * ***** from ** **********, ******* (*****? ***** guy?) *** ** **** ** *** item, **** ***** *****, ****** * quote, *** **** ** ** ***. Absolute ****-**** ********? *'* *** ** minutes **** ***** ** ******, ******** it's ********* **** ****** ** ******** with, *** **** **** *** ********* level ** **** ** ** **** no *** **** ********* **. *** say ***, *** **** ** **** to ****, **** ****** *** ***** for **********. ******* ****** *** ********** world *** ** ** ****** ** their *********** *** ***** *** *****. Best **** *** *** ** ****? 5 *******. **** ******* *** ** receive **, ** **** ***** ******** account *** ****** * ******** ***** to **** ** ** ***, **** it ** *** ***, *** ********* it ** ******** ** ***** ** go ** *** ******* ***. *****, best **** ** ******* * *******. Once **** *** * ************ **** the ***** *** *********, **** **** have ** **** *** ** *******. Then **** ******** **** ** ****** up **** *** ** ******* **** invoice ****. **** **** **** ** AR *** ******* *** ***** ** out. ***'* ****** ** ******* *** all ** ****, ** * ****-****.

***** ** *** ***** -- ** an ******** ****-**** ********, ** ** minutes, ******** ** *&* ** ** seconds. **** *****'* **** **** ******* the **** **** *&* **** *** next ** ******* ** **** *** item (***** ** ***** ******), ***** the ********** **** *** ***** ** ship *** **** **** ** **** scenario. ** **** *****'* **** **** account **** * ********* **********, ***** is **** * ***** ********** **** literally *** **** *** **** ***** than **** *&* ***** ** ***.

**** ***'* * ****** ** *********** needing ** "*****" ** ******** ** do **** *** "*** *****", ** least ** **** ******** ********. **** is * ****** ** *********** ********* business ******.

* ** *** **** ****** **** ever ******* *********** *** *** ********* idiotic ****** **** **, *** **** is *** ** ********** *****.

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DF
David Fogle, CSEIP
•Jun 10, 2019
In reply to Undisclosed End User #1

****** ***** ** *** *** ** value ** ********** ** *** **** everything *** **** ** * **** nice ***** ** ** ********* ** live. ******** ***** ** **** ***** and *** ********** **** ****. 

*** ******* *** ***, ***** *** have * ***** ******** *** *** are *********** ****** *** ** *** can ****** *** ******** *** ***** your ******* *** * ******** ** the **** ** ****** *** **** a ****** ** ****** ***** ******.

*** *** ***** ** **** ** should *** ** **** ** *** every ****** ******** ******* ************ **** because *** *** **, *** ***** to ******. ***** *** **** ****** direct ************* **** **** ****** ****** as ** ** *** **** *** to ****** *** **** ** ******* with ***** ******* **** *** ************** of ***** ******* ****** *******.

***** ** ** *** ***** **** around *** **** **** ****** ***** deal ** *** ******* *** **** always ******* ** *** **** **** out **** *** *** ****** ***** and **** **** **** ****** **** and *** ***** **** *** ****** to ***** **** ***** **** *** the *** **** ****** ** *** changes. **** ******, *** **** ** fine.

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UI
Undisclosed Integrator #23
•Nov 14, 2019
In reply to Undisclosed End User #1

*** *** ******* * ****** *** win *** *** **** *****. * do ******* **** *** ***'* **** my ********. ****** ***** ** ** is **** *** **** *** *** not **** ** ** **** ** fill *** *** ****** *********** *** bank ****, *** *** **** *** hit ** **** ** ****** ***** as *** ** *** ******* ***.

*** *** ******* *** "***/***", *** just **** ** ********** *** ***** sides ********. ****'* ****, *** "******" thing *** *** ** ** ** to **** ******* *********** *** ******* them ******* *** ******** ** ****** you * ***** **** *** ***'** really ******* *** ** *** **** of *** ***. **** ** ** aren't ********** ** **** ***** ** business. ***** ** **** *&* ****** channel *** **** ** **** ** you *** ******, **** ** ***** #.

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UE
Undisclosed End User #11
•May 31, 2019
In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #5

***** ****** *** ****** *** **** but *** ***'* **** ** *** up **** ******** *******.  *** ******** are **** **** ** *** *** the (**** **) **** ** *** services *********.  *********** ****'* ***** ** win ** *** ***** ** **** cases ****** ******** ** ********* ******* "rules" ** ******* ****.  *********** **** to ******* ***** **** ***** / justify ***** ******** **** ***** ******** not ** ****** ******** *** *** in ****** **** ******* ***** ** force ******** ** ****. 

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Clint Hays
•May 31, 2019
In reply to Undisclosed End User #11

**** ** ***** "******* *****" *** in ***** ** ****** ******** *** paid *** ***** **** *** ******* that **** ** ** * ****. That ******** ****** **** ***** ********, system ******, *********, *** ****. ** company ***** ** ****** ***** ***** time **** * ******* *** **** be *** *** ** *** ***.

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UE
Undisclosed End User #15
•Jun 04, 2019
In reply to Clint Hays

* *****, *** *** *** ***** to ***************** **** ************ **-**** *******? *'** long ******* **************-**** ****** ***** **** * ******* if **** ******* ******* ******* ** B&H. 

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Undisclosed #16
•Jun 04, 2019
In reply to Undisclosed End User #15

******* ************* **** ***** ************* **** Axis **** ******* ******* ******* ********** Pricing ******** *** ******** ******* **** require * ******* ***** **** ** far *** ** ***** **** *******. For *******, ** *** *** ** authorized **** ********, *** **** ** follow ****'* *** ****** ***** **** than ****** ***** **** *** ****** are **** ****** **** **** *** unauthorized **** ********* *** ******* ***. Whats ***** ** **** **** ************* prohibit ******** ******* **********. 

UE
Undisclosed End User #15
•Jun 04, 2019
In reply to Undisclosed #16

**** ****, ** ** *** ****** here, **** ******! (***** ***** ************ wake **)

DF
David Fogle, CSEIP
•Jun 10, 2019
In reply to Undisclosed End User #15

**** ****** ***** ***** *** ***** wake **!

*** ******** *** ****** ** ******** you **** **** ****!

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David Fogle, CSEIP
•Jun 10, 2019
In reply to Undisclosed End User #15

**** ************* ******* **** *** **** of ********** ***** **** *** ******** to **** **** **** *** ***** and *** *** **** **** ** absorb *** **** ** ********** ***** who ****** **** ** **** **** they **** ******. *** **** ** goods **** ** ** ******** ********** to *** **** ** ******* ****.

**** ******* *** * *********** ** many ***** ** **** * ***** solution *** **** ** * ********* act **** ********** ******* ******, *** perfect, *** ******.

DF
David Fogle, CSEIP
•Jun 10, 2019
In reply to Undisclosed End User #11

*** *** **** **** ********** ************ Integrator *** ********* * ************ ***** upon ********** ******. * **** ****** for **** **** * *** **** had ********* **** **** *** **** that ****. ** ****** *** **** have **** ******** **** **** **** of ********* *** ****** *** ************. Little **** ** *** *** *** guy *********

***** ********** ****** ******* **** ********** with **** **** ************* **** **** mutually **********. **** **** ****** **** Service ***** **********.

** **** ** **** **** *** that ****.

******* ***** **** ** **** *** you * $* *** $*** ** cost *** *** **** *** *** $99 *** ** *** **** ****. Some **** ** *** ********** *** true **** ** *****

UI
Undisclosed Integrator #17
•Jun 06, 2019
In reply to Undisclosed End User #1

*** *** ********* ** ******** *** not * ******** *****. 

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DF
David Fogle, CSEIP
•Jun 10, 2019
In reply to Undisclosed End User #1

***** **** ** *** * *** outsource *** **** *** **** ******** for * ******** ** *** **** to ***** *** **** * ** not **** *** ******* ******.

** *** ***** **** ** ******* matter ********* ** ** ***** ** should.

** *** **** * ******** **** the ****** *** ****** ** ******* your ***** ** ***?

**** ******** *** *** ********* **** there ** ** ******.

** *** ***** *** *** *** products ******* **** ****** ** *** barrel ******* ****** *** **** **** for ******* ** **** *** **** for * ***** ** *** ** IP ******* **** *** *** ***** clueless ** *** **** ** ******* products ******* *** ***** ********* *** installing ****.

*********** *** *** ****** ** **** scenario ** **** **** ***** *** give **** * *****, **** ***** and *** *** ******* ****** **** an ******* *** * *** ** equipment ** ** ******* ** *** company *** *** ****.

*** *** *********** ******* **** ***, but ****** ** **** ***** *** rest *** *** **********.

** **** *** ********* *** **** an ********** **** **** **** **** you *** ***** *** ****** ******** program *** **** ******** ** ************. Amazon *** *&* ** *** **** if ** **** *** **** **** are * ****** ****** *** **** will ******* *** **** *** ****** and *** **** ****.

****** **** ** *** *** ******** from ****** *******, *** **** **** the ******** **** ** ********** *** buy *** *** ******* ****** ***** without ****** *** *** *********** **** comes **** **, *** **** *** paint ** ** *** ***** **** they **** * **** ** **** as *** ** ******* ** *** they *** **** *** ***. *** pay ***** *** *** ***** ******, you *** *** ***** ******* ******** you **** *** *** *** ***** solutions.

 

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Undisclosed #4
•May 31, 2019
IPVMU Certified
In reply to John Honovich

**** ******** **** *&* ** *** authorized, *** ** * ***********, *** as * ******* *** ** * 'dealer' ** *&* *******.

**** **** * *** **** ********* with **.  ******* **** **** ** let ** **** ****** ;)

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UI
Undisclosed Integrator #10
•May 31, 2019
In reply to Undisclosed #4

* **** **** **** ** ******** in ******** ********** **** "******* *** channel."  * *** *** **** ******** from ******** **** ***** *************** * used ** *** **** *** **** Tires ****.  "**** *** *** ******* to **** ****** ******** ** *********.  We **** *********** *** *** ** shut **** *********** ** ****** *** distribution ******* ** **** **** ******" blah **** ****.  **** ***** **** down *********** ** ******** ***. *** Axis ***'* **** **** ****** ** B&H. 

** ***** *** ***** ******* **** an ********** **** *** ****** ** a ******* ** ***** **** **** are *********** **** **% ** ** markup ** ***** ****** ***** *** assumption **** ** **** ******* ** 90% ** ***** ******** *** **** when ** ******* * ***** ** provide **** **** **** *******, **********, and *** ********** ****** ** ****, mounting ******** ***.  **** ****** ** to *** * ****** ***** *** more *********** ******* ** *** *** a ****** ** ***** **** ******* both ** ** ***** **** *** partnership.

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JH
John Honovich
•May 31, 2019
IPVM
In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #10

**** ***** **** **** *********** ** tirerack ***. *** **** ***'* **** down ****** ** *&*.

*** ******* ******* * **** **** manufacturers ***** **** ** *** *****-**** doctrine,**** ** *** *** ** ********** of ******* ******* **:

******** **** ** ********** *** ********* purchases * **** ** * *********** work **** *** ********* ****** ******** *** ***** ** ****, ******* or ********* ******* ** **** ********** ****, *************** *** ********* ** *** copyright *****.

***** **** ***** *********, * ** genuinely *** **** *** ******** ** other ********* ******* ********* *** **** to ** **** **** **. ** someone ***** *** ********* ** *******, I'd ** ******* ** ****.

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Undisclosed #4
•May 31, 2019
IPVMU Certified
In reply to John Honovich

* ** ********* *** **** *** Avigilon ** ***** ********* ******* ********* are **** ** ** **** **** do.

**** ***’* **** *&*, *** **** must **** ***** *&* ** ******* their *******.  ***** ***, *** ****** has ** ** * ***-**** ***** to ***** *** *&* ************* **** ***** ***** *** *******,*** ***** **** *****.

**, *****’* *** ***** ** **** really **** ** **** **...

JH
John Honovich
•May 31, 2019
IPVM
In reply to Undisclosed #4

*** ****** *** ** ** * top-tier ***** ** ***** *** *&* to **** ******* **** ***** ***** *** **** ***

**** ** **** ** **?

*******: ************ ********, ******** ***** ******** ** Unauthorized ****

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Undisclosed #4
•May 31, 2019
IPVMU Certified
In reply to John Honovich

**** ** **** ** **?

*** ****** ***** **** ******** ** making ** ** ********/******* *********? *’* sure **** ** **** *** * good ****** **** ******** ****’** **** it. *** *** ******** *** *** import ***** **** ** *** * lot ** **** ***** *** *** top.

** *** *****, ***** **** ** doing **** **** ** ******** ******* the **** ** ***-**** ************, ****** internationally, ** **** ****** ************?  

****** # -> *****

 

JH
John Honovich
•May 31, 2019
IPVM
In reply to Undisclosed #4

***** **** ** ***** **** **** of ******** ******* *** **** ** top-tier ************, ****** ***************, ** **** likely ************?

* ** ****** ******** ** ** not *** **. **** ********** ** heard, ** *** ******* *** **.

*** * ***** ***** ******* ****** numbers.

***, **** **** *** ** ** doing, **** ** *** *****.

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Undisclosed Integrator #5
•May 31, 2019
In reply to Undisclosed #4

* **** *** * ***** ************ company's **** ** ****** ** ****** $1M ** **** ******** ** ************ resellers. *** *** ******** ** ******* years *** ** *** ** *********** phone ****. 

UI
Undisclosed Integrator #13
•Jun 03, 2019
In reply to John Honovich

**** ***** ****** ** **** **** does ** ***** ****** ***** *** less **** ****. **** **** *** a *** ***** *** ****** ******* and *** *** **** ****** *** warn *** ***********, **** ** ******* again **** **** ******* ** **** distributor. ** ****** ******'* ** **** hard *** **** ** **** **** if **** ******** *****.

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Shannon Davis
•Jun 18, 2019
IPVMU Certified
In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #13

*** *** **** ***** ***** **** at ***** ** **** ***** **** is ********* ****** **% ***** ****** pricing. ** ****** **** ******* ** the ******** *** ****** ****.

SD
Shannon Davis
•Jun 18, 2019
IPVMU Certified
In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #10

* ***'* **** *** ** ********** can **** ** ******** **** **** a **% ** ** ****** ** parts *** **% ** *** ****** they **** ***. **** *** *** overhead **** ***** **** ***** * true ********** **** ** **** *** feasible ** *** **** ***. ** this ** ***** ***** ****** ** equipment * ***** ***** ***** ***** rates ** **** ****** ** ** the **** ** ****** **** ** they **** ** **** *****.

JH
John Honovich
•Jun 01, 2019
IPVM
In reply to Undisclosed #4

**** *******, ********** ****, ** ***** terminology, "* ******** ** ****** *** is ****** **** *** ************, *** not **** ** *** ******* ******* program."

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Undisclosed #4
•Jun 01, 2019
IPVMU Certified
In reply to John Honovich

* ******** ** ****** *** ** buying **** *** ************, *** *** part ** *** ******* ******* *******.

** ***** ****** ** * “********” by **** ******** *** * ******** connotation?

*** **** ************ **** ******* ** sell ** ***-******* ********?

** **, ***’* **** * ******** big ****** ** ***** ** (********) truck ****?

JH
John Honovich
•May 30, 2019
IPVM

** ** ** **** *********** *** many *********** ** ** **** ******* only *****, ** *** ****** ** politely ******* *** ********* *** ******** buy ******?

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #3
•May 30, 2019
In reply to John Honovich

** ******* ** *** ******* ****. If **'* ****, ********. ** **'* Avigilon, ** *** ** ** ******* the *******. **** *** ******* ** it's *** ****** ** **. ** it's *** ******, *** ********** *** to ******* **** ***** ** *** the ***** ******* *** ** *** customer, ***** ** *** ** *** be ****** ** **** ** *** cost ** * ***********. **** **** have ** ******* *** *** **** (warranty). ************ ******* **** ***** ***** included ** *** **** *****.

* ******* **** *********** **** **** a ***** **** ****'** *********** **** instead ** ******* * ******** ****. 

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JH
John Honovich
•May 30, 2019
IPVM
In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #3

** **'* ********, ** *** ** go ******* *** *******

****, ****'* ******* ** ** *** on *&* ** ****** :)

* ******* **** *********** **** **** a ***** **** ****'** *********** **** instead ** ******* * ******** ****.

******* ** **** *** ****'* ********, I ***** *** *********** *** ********* would **** **** ****** *** ******** responding, ********** *** **** ***** *** help ****, *****/********?

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Undisclosed #4
•May 30, 2019
IPVMU Certified
In reply to John Honovich

* ***** *** *********** *** ********* would **** **** ****** *** ******** responding, ********** *** **** ***** *** help ****, *****/********?

********* *** ********** **** ********* **** “you’d ******** ** ****** **** ******** it *** *** ********, ** * get ** *** *** **’* ***** be *.”

**** *** ***-**** *** *** “***, I’ll ***** ** *** *** ********” or “***** **!”

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SD
Shannon Davis
•Jun 18, 2019
IPVMU Certified
In reply to John Honovich

****** *** ******** ** ******* ** let ** ****** ** ************** *** to **** *** ********* **** ********* we **** ** **** ******* *** equipment ** ****. ** **** ***** just ******* *** *** **** ********* to ******* *****'* **** *** ******.

* **** *** ** ** **** with * ******** **** **** ******** us **** * & * *****. In **** ** **** **** * few ******* **** ***** ******* *** also ****** **** ****** ***** *** cameras ****** ** ****** *** ***** said **** ****'* **** ** *** more. **** *** *** * ********** and ***** ******** *** **** ****'* have * ****** *** ** *** the ****** *** *** ******* *****, which * **** ** *** ****. You *** **** **** * & H ***** **** *** ** **** site ** ** **** * **** just ****? *** ****** ** **. So ** **** ***** * ******** explained ** **** *** * ****** more ** ****. ****** *** ******** period ** ********* **** ***** **** the ****** *** ** **** ** spend *** **** ****** ** ************ the ***** **** **** **** *** profits ** **** **** *** ****. 

 

(2)
CC
Chris Chambers
•May 31, 2019

***'** ***** ***** ** ******* **** 2 ** * ***** *** ***** found *********.  "****, ****, ****," *****, yadda, *****, ***** *****'* **** *****, you're ***** ** **** ***. 

** *** ***'* **** ** ****** about **% ** ** ****** ***** I ***** ******* ******** ** ******* and *** ***** ******** *** *** provide, *** ********* *** **** **** option.

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(1)
U
Undisclosed #2
•May 31, 2019
In reply to Chris Chambers

** *** **** ** ******* **** own **********, ** *** ** ** a ******** ** ********?

(3)
CC
Chris Chambers
•May 31, 2019
In reply to Undisclosed #2

**** *******.  **** *** ******** ****** I *** *** ********** **** *** with * ******?  **** ** ****** about $*** ***** *** **** ** a ** ****** ** **** *******? 

** ****** ********** ******** *** ***** to **** **** **** * **** deal **** ******* ** *******, *** a **** **** *** ******* ***** installs ******** * *** **** ****, and **** ****** **** $*** ***** the ****** ****** * ***** **** multiple ******* ** ******* *** **** hitch.  * *** ******* ****** ******, so * **** ********* ** ******.  I ***** **** **** $*** *** the **** ** ** ** **** to ***** *** ******.

U
Undisclosed #4
•Jun 01, 2019
IPVMU Certified
In reply to Chris Chambers

*** ******** ******** ***

** *** **** ** ************************, ** *** ** ** * mechanic ** ********?

**** ***** ************* ******** ***

**** *** ******** ****** * *** the ********** **** *** **** * markup?

*** ***** ****** **, ***** *** part **** ** *** **** *********** implied ** *** ******** ********.

**** ** ****** ***** $*** ***** for **** ** * ** ****** or **** *******?

*** *****.

(1)
(1)
CC
Chris Chambers
•Jun 01, 2019
In reply to Undisclosed #4

*** ***** **** ** ****** **** one * *** *******.  "*******" ** the ***** ** **** ***** ***** the ******** *** *** *******.  ****** maybe ***'** ** *** ***** ** keeping *** ***** ****** *** ***** as *********** *** **** **** *** every *** *** ****.

*** ** *** **** ** ******* that *** ******** ** "**** ***" doesn't ****** ****** ** ****, * would *****.  *** ***'** ********** *** opposite.  ** *****'* ****** ***** ********** it ** ** ** ***'* ****** "replace".  ** #* ***** **** **** better *** **** "** ***'** ***** to ******* * *** ********** ********, do *** *** ** **** * mechanic ** ********?"  ** ** ***** "your ***" ** *** * ********** for "******* ********".  ***** ***, *** example, "** ***" *** ** "** own" *** ***** ** ** ********, but *'* *** ******** ** ** it ******.

*'** ***** **** ** ******** *******, and * ***** ***'** **** **** customers ***** ***** **** ***** ** no *********** **** **** ****** **** 2X ** ** *** ***** *** a ******** **** ** *** * ripoff.  ********* *** ******** ****** **** (although **** **** ** ** ** John) ***** **** ******* ******** * sale ****, ********** ** ******* ** was ** *** "********" ******** ** not.

* ***** ********* ****** **************.

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(2)
U
Undisclosed #4
•Jun 04, 2019
IPVMU Certified
In reply to Chris Chambers

***** ***, *** *******, "** ***" oil ** "** ***" *** ***** to ** ********, *** *'* *** planning ** ** ** ******.

*** ** **** *** **** ****:

***: **, *’* **** ** ****** my *** ***.

********: ****’* *****. **** ** * second *** *’** *** **** ***, and ***** * *** *** * spout?  

***: ***, **** **** ** ***** bay ****** * **** ****?

********: ***, *** ***** ****** **** own *** ** ******?

***: ** * *******?

 

(2)
(2)
DF
David Fogle, CSEIP
•Jun 10, 2019
In reply to Chris Chambers

******** **** ** ************* ** *** market.

********** **** *********.

************ **** *****.

*** * ** *** **** **** damn ******* ****** *** *** ********, I **** ** ****** *** *** all *** ***** * **** *** build **** **** *** ** ** garage *** ** **** ** ******* the **** ** *** *** * would **** ****** **** *** ***** at *** ******* ** ******* ******* mechanics *** **** *** ** **** to ***** **** *** *** ******* just ** ***** ** ** *** again! $****.** *** * *** ******! They *** *** ** ***** ***** if **** ***** * **** *** that **** ** ***** *** ** oil ******.

* ***** ****** *** *** ******* at ******** ** ****** **** ** not **** *** **** **** ** ownership *** ***** *** *** **** about **.

*** ** ** * ***** **** or * **** **** *** ****** someone ******* * ********, ***, ** some ***** **** *** *** *** opening *** **** ** *** ***** the ****** **** *** ****. ** you *** *** ****** ** *** it **** *** ****** ****** ** own **.

**** ** ***** ** *** *** what *** ****** ****** ** **** care, *** ** *** ***** ***** it ********* ** *** ** *** expect ********** ** ****** **** *** you. **** ** ****, *** **** harder **** *** ***** *** ***** fights.

(1)
CC
Chris Chambers
•Jun 17, 2019
In reply to David Fogle, CSEIP

*** ******* ** ******* *****, *** you ***** *** **** ** ***** is ** *** *** ** ** business ** * *********** **** *** can't ******* ** ***.  ** **** makes *** **** ***.  ***** **** only * *********, *** *** **** one ***** ***** * ********** *** situation *********.

SD
Shannon Davis
•Jun 18, 2019
IPVMU Certified
In reply to Chris Chambers

****'* **** ** **** ****. *** dealer ********* ** ***** **** ** don't ** **** *** **** ***** to ********* ****** ** ** *********** work *** ****. **** ** **** is ******** ** ******** ********** ******* and ************ **** ******** **** *** to ******* ***** ******** *** ************* that *********** *** ******* **** ********* away **** *** **** ****** ** years.

U
Undisclosed #6
•May 31, 2019

* **** ** **** *** ** integrator **** ** *** *** **** eventually **** ** **** * ********* websites:

*** ******* ******** *** ******** ************ and ** *** *-* **** *** doing ***** ******** - *** ** addition ** ****, *** **** ******* offered ********* (** *******) ** *****, ******* integrators - ********* ****** ** * distributor *** *** *****.  

**** ******* ** *** * ***** got '*****' *** ******* **** ** could **** ********** ****** ******* *** very **** ***** ** *** ******* online - ******** ** ********* ** a *** *******. 

*** ********* ******* (**** ** ******** ties ** *** ******* ****) **** the **** **** ********* ***** * different *** ***** (**** ******* ******)******** ** *** ******.

** ******* *** ** - *** we **** ******** ** **** ****** from *** ****** ***** *********.... *** then *** ************ ****** ** ****** end **** ******** **** **** **** the '****** ** *** ******' ***** effort ******* ** ******* ** ****'* have *** ************** ** ******* *** new (*********) *** *****.

** *** ** * ****** *** our '******' ********* *** ***** **** to *** ******* ** ******* **** they **** ** *** ***** ** installs - ******* **** ***** *** taking ** ** **** ** *** 'free *******' ** ***** * *** camera **** * *** **** ******** to ***** *** **** *** ******* comes ***** ***.

** *** ***** ***** **** **** doesn't ****.... *** **** ** *** micro ***** * ***** **** ** 2, * *** * *****.... *********** are ********* *** *** ** ** accommodate ****** ** *** **** ***** - *** *** ***** ****** ********** why **** ** *** *** *** all ******** *** ******* **** ** integrator ***** ** ***** *** *&* price *** * *******.

 

 

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(2)
U
Undisclosed #2
•May 31, 2019
In reply to Undisclosed #6

**** ** *** ***** *** **** Amazon ** *** **** **** **** with **** ********* **** ***** * firmware ******....* **** ***.

(2)
(1)
(1)
(2)
UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #8
•May 31, 2019
In reply to Undisclosed #2

*&* ***** **** **** *** ***** with ******** *******, ******. 

(1)
(2)
UE
Undisclosed End User #15
•Jun 04, 2019
In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #8

*** ****** ******* ** ******-**-*** *** do ***** *** ******** *******.

U
Undisclosed #4
•May 31, 2019
IPVMU Certified
In reply to Undisclosed #6

**** ******* ** *** * ***** got '*****' *** ******* **** ** could **** ********** ****** ******* *** very **** ***** ** *** ******* online....The ********* ******* (**** ** ******** ties ** *** ******* ****) **** the **** **** ********* ***** * different *** ***** (**** ******* ******)******** ** *** ******.

**** ***** ****** ** *** ** your ******** ********** ********* **** ******** upon ** ** ** ******* *** the ******** ************, *** ******* **** ****** ******* enough ** **** ********** ********************** ** ***** **** ***??

******************: **, *’* ******* ***** **** line ********* ******* *******, *** **** * ******* product?

Jim ** *****: Absolutely, these are much higher quality than your typical DIY camera.  

********: **’** ********* **********************, *** ** **** *******?

*****: ****, ********, *** ****.  ** you ****************************, ****’* *** ** *** **** stuff, * ***’* ******* ** *** price. *’* ***.

********: ***, ** **** ***?

(1)
(4)
U
Undisclosed #7
•May 31, 2019

*** ********* ** ***** ************* **'** discussing **** *** ****, **** *********.

** **'** ********** ****, ** ** is * "*****, *****" **********, **** there ** ****** **** ******** **** they ****************** **** *** *** **** ****** than **** *&* ** ******** *** it ******. **** *** ************* **** volume ************ ** ******* ***** ***-**** discounts, *** ***** * ***'* **** specific ******* ****, *'* *** ************ when * *** **** **** *** paying **** **** *** ***** ****** on *&*.

**** *** **** ****** ** **** B&H ****** **** ********  ***** *** integrator ** ****** ***** ** *** for ******** **** ***** ***********, **** the **** ** ****** **** ********* to *******, ****, *** ****** **-**** it ** ****** ** **** ** time *** ******* ** ******* **, plus *** **** ** ***** **, process *** *****, ******* **, *** close ** *** **** ******* ** received...it's ****** *** **** ** *** how *** ********** **** ***** ** substantially ******.

***, **** *****'* **** **** ** should ********* ** *-***** *** *****, but * **** * ******* ** might **** **** * *** ********** there. ***, * ********** ***** *** be ******* ** ** *** *****. The ******* ** **** *********** *** just *** *** ** *** ***** things, *** ** *** *** ** the ***, **** **** ***** *** an ************* **** ***** ** **** you ****** **** ** *** **** make * *** ***** **** **'* all **** *** **** ** *** just ** ********* ****. ***** *** the **** *** ** ** ***** it, *** * ***** **** ** hard ** ***** **** *** **** if **** *** ****.

*** ** **** ****, ***** ** a ****** **** --

***. *****. ******. ***. **. ****.

***'* *** ******** *** **** * situation ***** ***'** ****** *** ****** for *** * ** ********. *** your ***** ***** *** * ***** service ***** ***** ** **** ** larger **********. ** **** **** ** integrator **** ** **** ** ******* an ***** *** *** ** ** something ** ** **** *** *, and ****'** ****** **** ***** ** add ***** "*****" ***** *** *** first ****. ********* *********** ******, *** orders *** *** * ****** ** the ******* *********, *** *** ****.

 

 

 

(1)
U
Undisclosed #2
•May 31, 2019
In reply to Undisclosed #7

*** * ***** *** ***** ** a ********* **-**********-* ** ********* **** 3 ***** *** ***** ** ** Axis *****-***. *'* ******** ** *** talking ***** *** ******.

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Sean Nelson
•May 31, 2019
Nelly's Security

* ***** ***** **** ** *** integrator ** ***** ** ***** ******** technical *******, *** ******** ** ***** could/should ** ***** ** ** **** end *****. *** ** *** *** user ** ****** ******* ** *** a ******* *** ***** ***** ** the ********** *****, *** ******** **** just ** **** *** *** **** that **** *** *** ** *** Amazon.

**** ** *** ***** ** ***** Amazon ****** ** ******* ******, ***** we **** **. ** **** **** the ****** "** *** **** **** any ******** ** **** *******, **** Amazon ** *** **** ***** ** buy ******" ***** *** **** ********* that *** ******* ** **** **** risk. * *** **. *******, **** arent *** ******** ** *** ********* so ** *** ****** ** **** to ****.

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UE
Undisclosed End User #15
•Jun 04, 2019
In reply to Sean Nelson

**** ********** ** ******* *** **** get **** ******* ********? *% ** *** ******* I've purchased **** ****** **** ******* ****** their ******** ******. **, ****'* **% ** I ******* ******* **** :)

(1)
(3)
U
Undisclosed #16
•Jun 04, 2019
In reply to Undisclosed End User #15

*%? * ****!   **** ** *** customers **** **** **** **** * "left *****" *****. ** *** **** need *** **** ** *******, ****** is ****** *** **** ***** ** buy. ** ****** **** ******* *** customer *** **** **** **** *** warranty *******.

(1)
CC
Chris Chambers
•Jun 17, 2019
In reply to Sean Nelson

*** ***** ** **.  ** ********** who ******* ** *** **, ******* of ******* *****.  (* ***** **** missed **** ******.)  ** ***'** *** interested ** ***/**** **** *********, ***'* even ******.  ** * *** *** user, * *** ******* **** **** than ******* ****** ** ** *** 2X ** ** *** ******** *** a *** ***.

*** ***** **** ** *** **** is **** *********** ***/** *** ********* are *** *** **** ***** ** your *******, *** ***********/********** *** ***** doing ****** **** **** ****** ******** and ********* *** ******** ***.

(1)
UE
Undisclosed End User #9
•May 31, 2019

***** ** *** ********* ***** * can *** **** * ***** **** actually ***** ***:  **** **********.   *** every ********** ****** *** * ****** card, ** ** ******* ** *** online **** ******* **** ***, ** even ******.  ********* *** *** ****** to *** ***** **** ** '******** vendor' **** ****** *** *** *** it ******* ********* ****.

 

**** **** *** * ****** *** a *****/*********** *** ** *** *** of *** ****** **** **'* ****** have * ***** ** **** *** LE ******** ******* ****** ** ***** out ***** ******* *** *** ** to ****** **** **** *** ***** of ***** **** ** ****'* ******** sell (****, *** ****). ***** ** were ** ******** ******, **** ***** get ****** **** ** ******* ********. We'd **** ** **% ** **, buy ** ****** *** **** **** it ** ****. *** ******** **** exactly **** ** **** ***** *** would ***** **** ** ***** ** part ******* ** ***** **** **** wanted, *** **** *** *********/ ********** challenges ** ******* ***** ***** **** it ***** *** **** **.

 

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UI
Undisclosed Integrator #12
•May 31, 2019

************* **** *********** *** *** ******** to ****** ********* ***. ** ** integrator **** ** ** *** ***** to ******* ******* *** **** *************.  It ** ********* ********* *** ** intergrator ** ** * *** *** sell ** * ****** **** *** because ** ****** * ***** **** that *** *****'*, *** ****** **/***, care *****.

****** **** **** *** '**** ***'  of * ******** ***** ***** *** the ****** *** ** ********** ******* diminishes. ***** ** ********** **** **** the ***** ** **** **** *** see ****** ** ******* *** ***** risk. *** **** ** **** ** dependent ** *** **********, *** **** just **** ** ******** **** ***** to **** **** * ****** ** error ** **** **** ** **** some ******** ***** *** ******** *** really ***** *********.  

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********** ******* * ******** **. * Client ** ******* ** *****:

******** *******, * ******** ** ******* who **** ***** ** ******** **** a ***** ** ********. *** **** "client" *** **** **** "********," ********* to **** ************, *** ** *** a ******** ********** ** ******* *** receives ************ ********. ** ********, *** two ***** *** ***** ******* *********** based ** *** ***** ** ************* built.

(1)
(1)
UI
Undisclosed Integrator #14
•Jun 04, 2019

* **** “**** **” **** ** end **** ***** ** **** **-**%, sometimes ***%, ** *** ********* **** (which ** *** ******) *** ***** to ***** ******. **** ** *** time **** ***’* ********** *** ********* specs, ***’* ********** ***** ****** *** field ** ****, **** **** **** ask *** *** **** ****** ** what ** ********. *********?!... * **** also ********* ******* ***** *** *** user *** ** ******** ***** *** equipment, ********* *** ******** *******, ******* purchased *** ***** ***** *** *** application ** *** ** ***. **** complain *** **** ** ****** ***** to ******, ** ******** *** ****** labor ** ****** * ************** ****** that **** *** *** ******** **** you. *****, *********?!...

** *** ***’* **** **** ** integrator *******, ***’* *** **** ****. Find ******* **********. ** *** ***’* find * ******* ********** **** *** expertise *** ******, **** * ***** you **** * ******** ** ****. 

*** **** ** ****** *** ****** are ** **** **** *** ****** will **....

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(1)
UE
Undisclosed End User #15
•Jun 04, 2019
In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #14

********* ** **** **** * *********** camera, **** ****** ***** ** **** the ******** ********.

(2)
UI
Undisclosed Integrator #14
•Jun 05, 2019
In reply to Undisclosed End User #15

*** *** ** *** ****** *** replace ** ********? 

** **** ** ** ***** ****** the ****** ** *** *** ******* you ** *** *****. 

*** **** ******* ** *** ***** cost ** *** *** *** ** you *** ******* ** *** ** or ***. 

 

DF
David Fogle, CSEIP
•Jun 10, 2019
In reply to Undisclosed End User #15

****** ******? **** ** ******* ****** disconnect *** ********* (**** **) ***** have ** ***** *** ***** ** which ****** *** ******* * ******* degree, *** * ******** **** *********.

** ******? **** ** ** ** address? **** ****** *** ********** ** set **? **** ****** *** ***** rate ** *** **? ** *** old ****** **** **** ** ****** of **'* ******** *** *** ******** from ******* *** ** *********** ******* then **** **** *** ** **** and ****.

**** ****** ** **** ******** ** plug *** **** ** ********** *** dependencies ** ********* **** ** **** in ** ******* ******** ******. **** up *** ***** *** ** ******* many ***** ******.

*** *** ******** ** ****** ***** until **** *** *** *** ***** that ** * *******.

FM
Frantz Mathias
•Jun 04, 2019

**

 

* *****'* **** *** *** ******* .. *** ********, * ***** **** to ******** ****** (**** **** ** deal * ***) **** ** ********** distributor **** ** *&*.  

* ****** ******* ***** ** ********* cameras. *** **** **** *** ***** same ****** **** ***** **** ******** for $*** ** ****** *** $*** at * *********** **** * *** or **... ****** ******** ***** **** be *******-**** .. ** **** **** with **** *** **** **** ***** from ********** ... **** ***** *** time ** **** ******* **** **** simply ****** ** **** ...  *** may *** ** ******* * ******** and *** ****** ******* * **** brick

*** **** **** ****** *** *** the ***** **** ****** *** ****** integrator ** ******* ... ****. ******* looking ** *** ****** ****** ** could ** ********* ** ********* *** fairness ** ******** ** *** ******... 

***'* **** *** ****** @** * both.

********** * ******* ***** ** ************ cost *** ******, *** *** *********** @ **** *** **** ** ************ support *** ******* ( **********, ** Hours ******* *** *** ****, ***...) @ *,***

********** * ******* $*,*** ***  *******, NVR *** *********** *** **** $**** for ************ *** *** **** **** limited ******** ( ** *** ****** discuss *** ******** ** *** ********** later :) ) .. ** ******* , **** ****, ** ****. ** not ****** *** ** *** ** always ****** **** *****...

***** **** ****** *** $**,***.

*** *********** *** ** ***** ******** and *******: **** * ** *****, B ** * ***** ** **** versa *** *** ****** **-******* ********. We **** ** **** **** ****** making *** ********* ...

(1)
UE
Undisclosed End User #15
•Jun 04, 2019

*** ***** ****** *** ***-***** *** ADI ********.

(1)
KB
Keith Bowman
•Jun 06, 2019
IPVMU Certified

* **** *** ***** ***********.. **** is *** **** ***** ** ********** the ** ***** *** ** ***** ago.. ************ **** ** **** **** sides ** **** *** ****** **** and ********* ** *** ****** *****. Go **** *** ***** *** ******* of ******, *** , *****, *** so **.. ** **** ****** ******, and ******* ***.. *** **** ********** is *** ************ **** * **** map **** **** **** *** *** improve **. 

DF
David Fogle, CSEIP
•Jun 10, 2019
In reply to Keith Bowman

** ** *** *** **** *****, they **** * *** **** ****** for *** **** ******** *** ** the *** **** *** ********.** **** figured *** *** **** ****** **** sell *** *** **** **** **** it ** ** ******.

*** ** *** ***** **** **** picked *** ********* ** **** *** installed ****** ** *** ******** *** intended ** **** ** *** ***** time *** ******* ** **. ***** business ***** ** *** *** **** as ******** ******* * ********** ** parts *** ***** ******** ** ******* a ******** **** *** * ******** customer ** * ****** ***********.

**** ** *** ***** ***** ********* here ** **** ****** ******* *** need *** **** ***** ***** ** turn **** **** *****.

*** ** ****** **** ******* **** really, *** ** **** ** ********* if ** *** ******* *******, *** add * ******* *** **** ** cameras *** **** *** ******* *** the ******* ******** *** ** ** designed *** **** ******** ** ******** performance ****** *** **** ** **** engineers ** *** **** ** **** relationships **** ****** ** *** *** long **** ********** *** *** ********** return ** **********.

** ** *** * ****** ** IF *** **** ******* * ********** part, *** **** * ****** ** when. ***** *** ********* ******** ** the ****** **** *** ***** ** do *** *** *** ***** **** were **** *** * ******* *** most *********** **** *** ******* ****** and **** **** **** ****. *** question ** *** **** *** *** willing ** ***** ** **** **** they **** ***** *** ** *** want ** *** **** *** **** knowledge ******* **** **** ** **** them ***** **** **** ** *****?

 

 

UI
Undisclosed Integrator #18
•Jun 06, 2019

***** ***** ** **** **** ******, but **** ******* ** ***** ******* sold.

************* **** * **** ********** **** making *** ****.

*** ****** ********** ****'* ********** **** anything ***.

********* ****** ********* **** *** ********* customers **** ** **** * **** decision *** *** **********.  *** ********* are *********** ** ******* *** ******** on *** ****** ** **** **** do, ** ** ******* ***** ***** and **** ********* *** ********* ******* needed ** **** ****** *******.

*********** (***********/*******/******* ** *** ******** *** etc.) *** *** ******* ********* ** to  *** ***** ******* *********.  ******** owners **** ******* (***********), *** ****** margins ** ******** ******..."**** ***: *** you **** **?"  ** **** ******* yes, **** *** ***** ** *** margins ********.  *** ****** **: "*** get ** **** **** ***"!   ** not, *** **** *** *** **** integrator(s) ** ********* ********* *** *** life ** ***** *******.

*** ** *** *** ******* *** etc. ******* ***** *** ******.  *****, lowest ******* *** ** **** *** the **********, ****** ** *** ********.  No ****!

** *** ******(*) *** ******:

*. *** ** ********** **** *** help *** *** ***** ** **** and ** **** **** ******* ** Asset.

*. ** ** **** *** ******* prices *** ** *******, ********* ******* and ** ** ******* (**** ***** Solutions).  **** *** ******** **** ******* works ** ****** ** ***** ** paying *****.

*.  ******* **** ********** *** * cost ********** **** ***** ******** ** any ********.  *** ****** ********** **** you ***.

**** ** ****!

(5)
UI
Undisclosed Integrator #14
•Jun 06, 2019
In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #18

**** ****.

UE
Undisclosed End User #19
•Jun 06, 2019

* ** * ******* *** **** but **** ** ** *** *** a ********* ******* **********.  * *** certified ******* * ***** *** **** an ********** **** *** ********* ** do *** **** **** **** * had **** ** ********* ** ******* on *** ***** ** ******** ******.  They *** *** *** **** ******* to ******* *** **** *** **** responsive **** ** *** ******.

* **** **** ******* ***** ******** 2 ***** **** *** ********** *** then ****** ** * *** *** and ***** ****** *** **** ********.  This *** ** ** ***** *** to ******* ** *** **** *********** and *******.  **** ** **** * realized *** **** * *** ***** over ******* *** *********. *** *** opener *** **** ** ********** **** me ** *** ****** * **** on * ****** *** * *** able ** *** *** **** ***** through *** ******* **** ******** *** of *** ** *****.  (* ***** business **** **** ** ***** *** mortar **** ********.)  ** *** * times ******* **** *** "****" ******.

***** **** * *** ** **** controllers **** ** ********** ***** * have ** ****** *******,  *** * have ******** ****** *** ******* ** guy **** ***** *** ** *** we ** *** ** *** ************* and ******* **************.  **** ** * while * **** * ***** ******* to ******* ******** *** ****** ** it ** *** ** *** ********** offices ** ******* **** ** *** country *** * ***** ** *** configuration.

* ********** ***** ********* *** ** business ** **** ***** *** **'* my ************** ** **** **** ** company ** ****** ***** **** ******* the **** ** * *******.  * have **** ********* **** **** *** over * ***** *** ** ******* couldn't ** *******.

**** ** * *****.

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(1)
DF
David Fogle, CSEIP
•Jun 10, 2019
In reply to Undisclosed End User #19

** ********* *** ******* ** * product **** ******* ****** ******* *** had ** ** *** *** ***** lifting ******** *** ******* **** ** an ********** ******* *****?

** ****** ******** **** *** *********** on ******** *** * ***** ************ and *** **** **** **** ** like ** **** **.

** **** *** ****** *** **** you **** ****** * ******* ** the ******* ******* ****** *** ******** service ** ******* ****** *** ***** of ***** *** ***** ** ****, you **** *** **** *** **** for *******. ** *** *** **** zip **** ** ***** **** *** let **** ****** *** *** ** that ******* ** *****, *** ******** you ** **** *** ** ** sell ** ** *** **** ******. Never **** *** **** ******* ***** will **** ** *** *** ******* log ***** *** ** **** ** they *** **** **** ***** **** lane * *** **** ******** *** oil *** *** ***** ***** ** own **** ******* ** ******** ** so ****** *** **** **** *** never ****** **.

********* ********? ********* *** ***********, *** that **** *** **** *** ******** real ** **** **** ** *** big *******. *** ** ***** ******* are ***** ***** *** ** *** box *** *** ******* ** ******** each *** ***** *********** *** ******* the ***** ***** *** *** *** and **** *** ** *** ******** into * ****** **** *** *** if *** ********** ***** ********* *** experience ****** ** **** **** *** customers *** ** ***** ******.

**** **** * ***** ****** ******* with **** *** ****** ****** ********* all ****** * ***** ******. **** inspection ** **** ** ***** ****** it *** ***** **** **** ******* out ******* ****** **** *** ******** after *** **** **** **** **** current ** **** ***** ** * new *** ***** ****** *** **** paralleled ** **** *** ****** ***** connection ** *** ***** *** **** no ******* ** **** ***** ****** just ** *** ****** ** ******. No ******** *** ** *********, *** this *** ***** ******** ********* ******* with *** *** ** *** ** day *********** ** ***** ****** ** course **** *** ** *** **** there *******, *** ** *** ********* hand **** **** ** ***** *** and *** *** **** **** **** get *****. **** ***** ***** **** and *** **** ** **** ****** with * ********** ** ***** ***** solution *** **** **** ********* ** the *********.

**** ** * ****** ***** ** a ***** ************ *********** *** **** complicated *** **** ****** *** **** organization **. ** ** *** **********, but ******** ** *** ***.

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Undisclosed Integrator #21
•Jun 06, 2019

*** **** ** ******** ** ******* expertise ** ***-*****. **** ****** **** our *********, ********* *** ********** ** help ****** **** ******** *** ******* equipment, ********** *********, *** *** ******* application, **** ******* *******.

** **** *** **** **** ***-***** like *** **** #** *** **** decided **** **** *** ***** ** take ** **** ****. (********** **** #19 ***** *** **** ***** ****....)

**** ***-**** ****** ** *** * good *** *** **. ** ***** judgement, **** *******.

** *** ***** ***-***** **** **** we *** ******** *** * **** fit *** ****. **** ***** **** not **** ********** **** ** ** another *******/***. ********* **** *** ******** by * ****** *** ******* ** their ****** ***-*********** (**, **********) *** not ** ****** ***** **** * DIY ******** ** *****-********* ********. ******** they *** ** * *** *** us!

**** ** * ***** ****** ** learn (******* **** **** ********) *** an ********* ***.

* ****** ******* **** * *** approach ** ******** ** * ******* for ** ***-**** ****** **** *** large ****** ** **** * ********* technician **** ** ********** *** ****** can ***** ********* ** ***** ********. Of ******, *** ******* **** ** "what ******* **** **/*** ** ****?". 

* ******* ***** ** ***** * strong **** *** *** ********** ** play, ** **** **** ** ***** ourselves **** *** ***** *******.

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UI
Undisclosed Integrator #22
•Jun 06, 2019

**** ** *** **** **** ** thing * *** **** * *** of ** ****.  **** ****** **** no **** **** ** ***** ** costs ** *** * ********.  **** are *******, **** **** ** ******* for ***** *** ******* ******* ** the ********.  ******* **** *** ***** justifying *** **** *** **** **** do ** ***** *******, ********* *********** to **** ***** ******* ***** ***** like * ******* *** ** ** this (*** *********** *** **** #**).  As ** *****, ****** ** ** a ****** * **** * **** relationship ****, * **** *** **** the **** ** ***** ** * couple ** ******* **** * ** sure *** ** ***** ** *** internet. ***** ***** ** ***** ***** extra **** ******* * **** ** look ** ******** ******* ****** * can ***** *** ***** ***** *** pricing ** ***** ** **** * pay *** *** ****** ** *****.  I ** *** ********** ** **** because ** ***** *** *** ****** I ***** **** ** **** **** them *** *** ***** **** *** is ******* ***** *****.

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UE
Undisclosed End User #19
•Jun 06, 2019

*** **** **** ***** ****** *********** Integrator #**; ****** *** **********. 

* ***** *** **** *** ** and * ********** ** ********* ***'* the **** *** ***'* ***** *** a *** ** *********.  ** **** I **** **** **** **** ******* for ** ***** *** **** ** plans ** ***** *** ***, *** never ****, **** ** *** * am ******** ** *********** ** * do ** *** ******* ** ** work.

*** *** ****** * **** ****** hard ** ** *** **** *** my ******* *** **** * ** not **** *** ****** ** * question * ***** *** ** ******* matter ******* *** ***** *******.  * use *** **** ********* ** *** or *** ***** ********** ***** ***; ie: ****, ****, ******* *** ******* and *** *****, ****, *** ******* for ** **** ******.

** **** ******** ** *** ** any ***********. (****, ***** *** **** I **** **** *******) 

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Chris Caswell
•Jun 10, 2019

* ***** * **** * *** integrator *** *** ****** ** ***** a **% ********.  ****** *** **********. 

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DF
David Fogle, CSEIP
•Jun 10, 2019

*********** ** *** ********* ** *** sales *** ******** ***** ******* ** not ********* ** ********.

** *** ** *** **** *** support ********** *** **** ** ****** full ************** *** *** ** **** installation ***** ** *** **** ** integrator, *** **** ** *** ******** the ****** ** ********* **** *** have *** ***** ***** ** *** table ** ****.

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Undisclosed #4
•Jun 11, 2019
IPVMU Certified
In reply to David Fogle, CSEIP

Highlights **** David ***** **. *** *** *****

******** **** ** ************* ** *** market...

**** ** ***** ** *** *** what *** ****** ****** ** **** care, *** ** *** ***** ***** it ********* ** *** ** *** expect ********** ** ****** **** *** you....

***** **** ** *** * *** outsource *** **** *** **** ******** for * ******** ** *** **** to ***** *** **** * ** not **** *** ******* ******.

**** ****** ***** ***** *** ***** wake **!

** *** ***** *** *** *** products ******* **** ****** ** *** barrel ******* ****** *** **** **** for ******* ** **** *** **** for * ***** ** *** ** IP ******* **** *** *** ***** clueless...

****** ***** ** *** *** ** value ** ********** ** *** **** everything *** **** ** * **** nice ***** ** ** ********* ** live.

 

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CC
Chris Chambers
•Jun 17, 2019
In reply to Undisclosed #4

*** **** *** ******* **********.  *** many ** ***** *** *****?

UE
Undisclosed End User #19
•Jun 11, 2019

** ***** **** * *** * nerve *** *** *********** *** *****.  I'm *** **** ***** *** * wish *** *** ****.  *'* **** to **** **** *********** ** *** the ****** ******** ***** **** **** to ** ****** ** *********** ******* all ** *** ***********.

* ** *** *** ***** ******** from ****** ** *&*.  ** * said *******, * *** *** **** products **** *** *** ***. * do *** **** *** ******* ** hold ** **** ** *** ** IP ******* ** *'* *** **** why * *** ********** ** ******** from *** ** ***.  * *** set * ****** **, ******, *******, DNS, *** *** ********* * ****** or **** ********** ** **** ** the **** ***.  * *** *** them ** ******* *** *** **** up *** ******* ***** ** ****.  I ********** ** ******* ***** *** retention *** ** **** ****** *** parameters *** ** ********* ***** ** well.

**** * ******* ** ** **** Genetec * ******* *** ** ***** district ***** ******* ** **** ** a **** ** ***** *********** *** asked *** *** ***** ***** ** my ******* *****.  * ** ** the *** **** **** **** ** integrators *** *** *** *** *** in *******.  * *********** * ********* integrators *** ******* ** ** **** one.  * ****** **** **** ********** for * *** ***** *** **** were **** *********** *** **** *** my ************* *** **** ** **** work **** ** ** ******.  ** I **** ******* ** *** **** through **, * *** ******* ** spend *** ***** ** **** *** work **** *** **** **** *** busy ** ** *** ****.  **** is ***** ** ******* ******** ** over $**** ** ******** *****.  *** the ****** * **** ***** *** over ***** *******.  ** *** "**** of *****" ***** *** ****** **** I ***'* ****** *** *** **** silly **** ***** *******'* *** *** changes ** * *** *****.  **** is ** ***** ** *** ********** not ********* ******* *** ****** *** customer *** *******.  ** **** ********* you ***** *** ******?  * ***** you ***** ** **** ******** ** in **** ******** ****. 

* ** ** **** *** *** thinking **** * ***'* **** *** same ***** ***** ** ***; **** may ** **** ** * *****, but *'* ********* *** ***** ** a **** **** ** **** **** the ******* ** ***** *******.  * value *** **** *** ** ********** because * ** ** ******.

*** ***** ***** ***** ******** ** fill *** * ****** *** ***** little ******* **** *****.  ********** **** to ********** **** **** *** ** to **** *** **** *********.  * have ******* *** *** ******** ** a ******** ******* *****.  ******* ** attacking **, ******* *** *** ******** if **** ********* ***** **** *** same *** *** **** **** **** they ***'*.

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #8
•Jun 11, 2019
In reply to Undisclosed End User #19

* ***** **** ******* **** * Venn ******* ** "****** *** ***** IP ******** *** ****" *** "****** who ********* ** ****" ******'* **** much *******, *** * ***** ***.

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CC
Chris Chambers
•Jun 17, 2019
In reply to Undisclosed End User #19

**** **.  *** *********** ******* ** realize **** ***** ******* ******* *** their *********** ***** ****** **** *** missing *** *******.

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Chris Caswell
•Jun 17, 2019

* ***** ** *** **** ** realize ********* ****** ** ********** *** different ****** ** *** *****.  ***** I ***** ****** *** ********** ** IPVM ** ******** * **** ***** the ******* ***.  * **** *** experiences ***** * **** ** ******* a *** *** ** ** ****** integrator **** * **** ****** **** are *****. 

UI
Undisclosed Integrator #24
•Nov 14, 2019

** *** *******

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