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Using Cameras With Micro SD Cards?

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Forrest Magers
Feb 16, 2016
IPVMU Certified

I love the extra protection micro SD cameras provide. This is also a great emotional appeal for people that don't have to worry about cost. I have seen occasions when an NVR is stolen, however, have never seen someone steal the cameras.

I'm bringing this up because I haven't heard anyone mention them.

Thoughts Please

Forrest

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John Honovich
Feb 16, 2016
IPVM

Most IP cameras support SD cards and we've covered this SD Card For Surveillance Tutorial, First Surveillance SD Cards Released (SanDisk), Embed SD Cards inside IP Cameras? and Edge Storage Usage Statistics.

It can be done, it's just not widely used, primarily because of weak overall VMS integration and limited demand (most people are not that worried about a recorder being stolen).

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Undisclosed Integrator #1
Feb 16, 2016

It sounds good on paper.

IPVM has done reports on the lifespan of an SD card when written to constantly and it isn't pretty. Some of the cameras monitor the storage and can output a message when the SD card has failed. Otherwise, how would you know?

New NVR's also provide PoE to the camera. Unless a separate power supply is run to the camera, when the NVR is stolen, so is the camera power so you only have video to that point. Maybe it's enough, if the camera allows multiple power inputs at the same time.

Imagine having to replace a few hundred defective SD cards, in the cameras.

Several times a request has been made for "cloud storage' or a second NAS and other ways to combat this issue. Some just put a dummy DVR/NVR in plain sight.

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Undisclosed #2
Feb 16, 2016
IPVMU Certified
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Eddie Perry
Feb 16, 2016

depends right now I have an edge storage software i have been working on for Linux OS's works really well just mirrors what on the SD card to a NAS, lots of logging, lets me know if they (camera or SD card) are down or out , and lets me look though all of the uploads in a decent manner.

so far the SDXC cards last about a year outside and just a little longer inside, but this is using the higher quality class10/UHS-1 cards. I will say I notice a big difference between regular SD cards and the micro SD cards, as the SD card last about 6 months on average.

then again the only cameras i have tested with SD cards so far are Panasonic and Samsung, I have heard some horror stories with the AXIS cameras.

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Scott Dodge
Jun 17, 2018

We have been using SD cards in the place of an NVR. Dahua has a pretty good VMS and if the customer doesnt need a lot of storage it brings the cost way down. We have had some cards in the field now for well over a year with no issues. We have recently had a few out of the box failures and Dahua's card slot in the domes is really cheap and I have had problems getting the card seated properly but otherwise it works really well. 

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Undisclosed #3
Jun 18, 2018

If you are into bench testing try out the Thecus N0204.

http://www.thecus.com/download/manual/N0204/N0204_UM_V2.3_EN.pdf

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