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Jeffrey Kintzler
Mar 24, 2017

We have a customer who is getting push back from an inspector for the installation of fire alarm or linear heat detectors.

Has anyone received approval from an inspector or municipality, and if so can we get a copy?

As you know we sell through distribution and we do not know the end users.

We have been in business 6 years and the magnetic bridle ring is by far our best seller.

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Eddie Perry
Mar 25, 2017

Do you have a "UL" or "CEA" label or certification for these rings?

the according to NFPA 70 the Authority having jurisdiction can refuse to allow them to be used?

the "AHJ" is the ultimate final say on whether your ring in the jurisdiction can be used. Doesn't matter is its a great product or exceeds rating of other Hardware. if hes says no that is usually the end of it.

if he wants to fight it most inspectors of the Fire and electrical variety will except a UL rating and listing If they are not sure about it. (with CEA being the can-na-de-an equivalent)

I am afraid with out a 3rd party like UL or CEA you may not have much to stand on.

 

on an unofficial personal experience note. dont buck the inspector he will may you pay there and from now till you go out of business 

It is better to ask him with some certifications in hand than fight him over it.

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Jeffrey Kintzler
Mar 27, 2017

Thank you for your help. The part in question is how the bridle ring is attached.

Our magnet (MAG4TF) is UL listed. It has an operating temp of -40 degrees to +176 degrees. The melting point is 572 degrees. Now these operating temps are where the magnet may lose 1% beginning at those points and would only lose more gradually if those operating temps increase or decrease. There is never a point where the fastener will suddenly drop off. So the ring itself is not UL listed. The magnetic fastening device is UL listed.

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Eddie Perry
Mar 27, 2017

Well I will say you might to get the unit as a whole listed or approved for the bridle rings. If you do it should help out in other areas that said if the inspector really old school he might not accept it no matter what.

 

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Jeffrey Kintzler
Mar 27, 2017

I do hear what you are saying but as you may or may not know, each product varies in cost to get the UL listing. The price can range from $6,000 to $12,000.

On our j-hooks the whole assembly is UL listed, so no problem. We really don't get push back anymore because most Counties across the Country have now used or at least heard about our products. There are still a few holdouts and the reasons are what you think they would be. The inspectors coming up through the ranks understand and are willing to approve our line of fasteners.

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