CCTVCAD has some rather advanced 3D editing features, but won't render 3rd dimension of .dwg files...
JVSG has a very nice list of camera models, but generated PDFs are all garbled...
Is there a way to win?
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JVSG Or CCTVCAD?
Anton Miller
Jul 15, 2018JH
Jay Hobdy
Jul 16, 2018We use JVSG when the need arises and it works well for us. We have no issues with pdf's.
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Undisclosed #1
Jul 16, 2018Everyone is always trying to sell their wares. I stick with AutoCad & Visio because I am old. When I retire I will probably then have to adopt into BIM and 3D applications and use that for my work from home income.
Try the Demo: https://d-tools.com/ if you have visio & quickbooks this might just be useful. $$$
MM
Michael Miller
Jul 16, 2018D-tools is a fantastic design tool but IMO different than JVSG or CCTVCAD. D-tools is going to let you design your systems down to the last connector and add all the parts to your quote automatically but it isn't going to do storage calculations or PPF calculations.
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Undisclosed #1
Jul 16, 2018For some it is more fun to just do those calculations manually. It keeps you razor sharp. The average salesperson does need to use the cctv calculators. It is better than the coax risers back in the day drawn on a denny's napkin.
Anton Miller
Jul 18, 2018I'm lucky to work with the Salesmaster Extraordinaire. He manages to sell at almost 200% of average market price for the very same devices and services. Lately we've managed to overgrow the grocery store/garage level and now competing with large companies for high-rise buildings and small-scale municipal projects.
Anton Miller
Jul 18, 2018MM
Michael Miller
Jul 19, 2018Anton Miller
Jul 18, 2018Decided to buy JVSG. CCTVCAD learning curve was to steep and I just wanted the job done.
Overall: Satisfied.
Returned its price already - there's no way in the world that I, within just one working day, could create a precise dead-zone free installation plan on a 100+ page document with visualizations of 47 5MP cameras with focal distances of 2.8 to 141, calculate ppm, cable lengths and storage.
The ability to swap cameras and models on fly is very nice, especially when deciding should it be 3.5-10 or 7-22
Drawbacks:
*In exported PDFs text is only readable if exported to A1, export engine is not stable
*Does not fully support Unicode and localization codepages broken
*Crashes randomly if not handled gently enough XD
*Lack of ability to export into some editable 3D format. For instance, for this particular project the infrastructure is quirky and I have to plan it in the detail, so I'll have to manually copy locations of all 47 cameras and other equipment to some other CAD software. Which is ok for 47 cameras, but our next project is 200+ cams...
Michael Silva
Jul 18, 2018I use JVSG as design/visualization tool with clients so that they can see approximately what each camera views. I then manually transfer the data to AutoCAD to create bid documents in 2D.
I have found that building a detailed JVSG 3D model takes lots of time, so use it primarily to visualize complicated camera placements (multi-level lobby, parking garage with lots of columns and obstructions, etc.). On jobs with 30 or 40 cameras, I may only model five or ten of the cameras.
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