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Is There Any Practical Benefits Of Using J Hooks, Etc. When Running Large Projects In Drop Ceilings?

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David Matyas
•Dec 14, 2021

I am in the process of trying to make our wiring job more professional. It was suggested then when running multiple runs of cat5 for different items (data, cameras, etc..), we should support them using J hooks and D rings and have separate ones for the different wire colors.

And we should do this even in a drop ceiling environment and even when we can tuck the wires very high up. One of my senior techs says that this is a waste of time and money and there is no reason why we just can't tuck the wires in very high up and have them rest on beams, etc..

** ** ** * ***** ** time *** *****? ** ***** *** real ******* ** ***** ***** * hooks ******* **********? *** ***** ********?

* **** **** ** ****** **** with *************** *** ****** **** **** we *** **** **** ******** **** can ***** ***** *** **** **** said **** ** *****'* **** * thing.

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Undisclosed End User #1
•Dec 14, 2021

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David Matyas
•Dec 14, 2021
In reply to Undisclosed End User #1

* ***** **** ***, *** * really ****** *** ** ******* **** an ******** ********* ****** **** ** techs.

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Shannon Davis
•Dec 14, 2021
IPVMU Certified
In reply to David Matyas

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #2
•Dec 14, 2021

** *** ****, *** ***'* ****** have **** ** * ******.

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David Matyas
•Dec 14, 2021
In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #2

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Greg Thornbury
•Dec 14, 2021
Facility Solutions Group, Inc. • IPVMU Certified
In reply to David Matyas

*****, **** * **** ** *** BICSI ********* *** ***'** *** **** structured ******* ********* ****** *** ************ requirements ** **** ***** *********. **** you *** *** ******* *********** ** this, ***'** *** **'* **** ********* and ****** *** ** ******** ******* the *******.

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Brian Rhodes
•Dec 14, 2021
IPVMU Certified

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Brian Rhodes
•Dec 14, 2021
IPVMU Certified

***** **** ****, ********* ******** ** cable ******** *** *** ******* ***** include ********** *** **** ****-******* ***** ballasts *** **** ******, *** ******* protections ******* *********** ********* **** ***** break ** *** ******** *** ***** trades **** ********, ********* ******, ** HVAC ***** **** ******.

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Undisclosed #3
•Dec 14, 2021

************* ** * *** ****** ***-***. Running *" * ***** ** *** drop ******* ** *** ******* ****** us *** ***** ****** ** *** the ***** *******, ******* ******* ****** away **** ****, **********, *********, ***. in *** **** ******* *****. ***** mid-cable ********* **** **** ********** *** helps **** ***** ****-************ ****** ****** needing ********** ***** *********.

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John Scanlan
•Dec 14, 2021
IPVM • IPVMU Certified
In reply to Undisclosed #3

* ***** **** *** ** *** above, *** ****** ** ** -

***** **** ***** ****-************ ****** ****** needing ********** ***** *********.

***** **** ** **** * *** cable **** *** * ***** ** quicker/easier/cleaner **** ******* *** ***** ******* each *****.

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