I did a US Court filings search and cannot find any Avigilon patent lawsuits. Avigilon could be talking with integrators and competitors about this. However, if they are, it looks like it has not gotten to the point where they have actually filed.
This smacks of the early days of Avigilon sales/marketing where they told many half-truths/lies to (scare?) convince people to use their products??? Just a thought...
I really don't understan why they cannot just tell people the "truth"??? They have good products at good prices but consistantly they bend things to try and take short-cuts to the sale!
I guess it starts at the top and filters down...
Disclosure: I am an Avigilon Sales Employee
Please take the time to consider that this conversation is centered around what one integrator said to one competing manufacturer salesperson about one Avigilon salesperson's comments.
I have never heard anything like this in any sales meeting, call, email, etc. If it happened as described, it's definitely not something that is endorsed by Avigilon sales leadership.
Please don't paint us with a broad brush based on one rumor.
I call bull*** on this. It's way to easy to start rumors using the "undisclosed" feature on this site.
IPVMU Certified | 06/25/15 02:42am
Is Avigilon telling you that competitor VMSes violate their patents and lawsuits are imminent?
To answer the question, no.
Not yet. This could be an instance of a bad sales person making use of the rookie sales tactic FUD.
I check in monthly at IPVM for the latest gossip, and I'm never let down. This reminds me of a political when pressed for evidence, they defended their attack by saying the gravity of the charges were enough.
My comments about unnamed sources making claims about vendors has nothing to do with Avigilon. I simply note that you "ocassionally" engage in TMZ like articles. It is the Truth, and when called out, you get all defensive and attack the commentors. Would Avigilon providing a reply finally validate IPVM?
Being a public traded company, statements such as this are frowned upon by the SEC, SOX, and investors.
However, as noted in some recent reviews on IPVM, Avigilon has done a good job integrating new technology, and they do have a have a legal responsibility on behalf of the share holders to protect their intellectual property, and we may see that someday. I am confident they won't be giving IPVM advanced notice. :)
Rumor or not, given what has been going on in the past couple years, I think it is prudent to consider it.
If there are no cracks in the levies, there's very little use in worrying about them. However, upon finding some cracks in the levies have been occuring- they may possibly be insignificant and nothing to worry about in the near future, but given the possible catastrophic consequences, it'd still be prudent to have some plan for the consequences if it occurs.
Make those product partners of yours partners. Make them stand behind their ownership of the IP driving their products.
My position equates to a fly on a cows butt, as you drive by doing 70 mph.
IPVMU Certified | 07/07/15 01:17am
Please don't get rid of anonymous posting. It amuses when I am accused of being IPVM staff... or at least I think it's happened before. The irony being, I am much betting looking than most IPVM, except for Ethan "Baby Face" Ace.
In all seriousness, I was introduced to Avigilon in 2009 and we immediately dropped Video-insight, and jumped into megapixel with both feet. I have owned my IT business since 1986, and I have never experienced better support - PERIOD, so I do tend to defend them in these forums. They go overboard to help, even when your hardware is DIY crap, and the installer has zero tech skills.
Proudly posted NOT Anonymous.
It sort of looks to me like the question, remember the question waaaay back at the begining before we all got off topic, was asked and as far as I can see there have been no others actually come forward and say "YES" to either; I have heard the same thing from someone, either directly or indirectly.
So the asnswer after all the postering and such is that this appears to be a one time thing, for whatever reason???
This thread turned out to be true... http://ipvm.com/updates/3030#post-68589
Those who can't innovate buy patents and prey on those who do. Be careful Avigilon kook-aid drinkers, this might be the next naked painted model at an Avigilon party.
is the crybaby undisclosed comment above reflective of your professionism?
Heh undisclosed! Our company and our clients have been drinking that cool-aid since 2009, and in my opinion, haven't seen a product provides so much flexibility, and ease of integration. If you have something better, have your sales reps find me... That should be easy enough, and I'll give it an honest technical review.
Im curious as to what all the Avigilangelists think of their prescious brand now? Patent trolls, hate em!! Seems like Aviglion is getting desperate, or just playing dirty pool.