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I Canceled My IPVM Membership - Disruptive Players In This Space, Like Verkada, Are A Threat To IPVM's Members

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Allen Hammond
•Jan 07, 2020

not the resource that I thought I signed up for. I'm not so sure that this site is as "independent and objective" as they say, or even set out to be. It seems clear to me that the disruptive players in this space, are a threat to the distributors, integrators, and reviewers of traditional and legacy surveillance solutions. Who, by-in-large must comprise most of its membership. I run a full-service IT shop, where surveillance video is just a fraction of what we do. So I'm really just a 'drive-by' participant on these solutions. And perhaps not a great member... Additionally, contributors to this site i.e. John Honovich - Are not of the professional quality that one would expect for a paywalled site. I can get similar "analysis" from a reddit forum.

******: **** ******* *** ***** **** an ******** **********:******* ******** ******* ******* ********** **********

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John Honovich
•Jan 07, 2020
IPVM

*****, ****** *** *** ********.

* ****** ** ******* **** ********** that ** *** ****** ** ******* because **** *** * '******' ** most ** ****'* **********.

** **** *** **** *******, **** of ****** *** *** ** ****, for ******* *******. **** ****, * member ********** ******** *** ********** **** we ********** **** -**** ***** ***** "******* *******" **** Independent ***********. ***:* ** *** ********** *** ********* That **** ** ****** ****, *** I **** ************ **** ** ********* My ************. ** ****, ***** ** ** more '***********' *** ********* ******* **** Axis.

************, ************ ** **** **** *.*. John ******** - *** *** ** the ************ ******* **** *** ***** expect *** * ********* ****.

**** *******, ** **** **** *********** companies, *** *** ***, ***** * founded *** ******* ** ****. *** everybody ***** ** ** ****** **** it, ** *** ** ** ****, we *** ** ***** ******* **********, including **** ***.

** *** *******, * ******** **** that **** *** ******* *** ***** management, * ***** ***** *** **** benefits ** **** - ******** ************* (generally), ****** ****** ****** **********, ******* for ****** *******, ***.

***** *** * ****** *********** ****** I ******* ***** *******:

*. *** ******* - *******'* (***** team, ** *****) *** * **** boy ******* ***** ***** ****** *** not ****** **********, **** *** *********. We *** ***** ** ******** ** this. *** **'** **** ********* **** closely *** **** **** *** ***** this **** *** **** *****. **** has ****** ******* ********* ****** **** our *********, *.*.,******** ***** ******,***** ** ******* ******.

*. ****-** - *** ***, ** an ***-****, ******* ***** * *** risk ** *** ** **** ********** that **** ** **** **** * system **** ***** ********* **. ****'* not '****' **********. ** ***** ********* heavily ********* *** *********** ** **** Verkada ******* (** ***) ** **. We ********* **** ****, **** -*** ** ****** ****-** *****: ****** and *******.

****** ***** *** **** ******** *** if ** *** **** ****, *** us ****.

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Undisclosed Integrator #3
•Jan 07, 2020
In reply to John Honovich

* ***** ** **** *** ** Verkada ******* ** ****** ******** ** services *** *** ****** *** ****. What ******** ** *****.

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John Honovich
•Jan 07, 2020
IPVM
In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #3

**** ******* ****** ****** **** **** year.

* ** *****, ** *******, **** will ** ****** **** **** ****** and ******** ** ** ** ********* in ***** ******** ** ** ** and ** *** ****** **** *** early ***** **** *********. *** ****** challenge ***** * ** ** ***** down *** ****, *** **** ********** sell **, ***.

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Allen Hammond
•Jan 07, 2020
In reply to John Honovich

****** **** *** **** ********. ** IS ***********, *** **********. ** * begin ** ********** **** ***** ***, this ****, *** *** ******* - I ******* ** *********** ***** **** of ** ******* ****** (*** ***** objective, *** ****** ********* ***** * threat ** **** ******). ****** **** kept ***** ******** ** ******...

* ******* * ***** **** ** away... *** - ** *** ********* a ******* **** ** ******** **** and ******* * *** *** (*** as * ***** ** ******* ***** responses); * **** ** ********* ** remind *** *** ******** ** ** sole ****** ** ** ******** **** - ***** ********* ** ** ********* my ********** - *** ****** * Verakada **. ******** *********...

* ****** **** ***** **** ******* out ********** *** ******* *** ** the ***** **** *** ***. ****! Beat ******* ** ** **** ******! But **** *** *** ****** **** parroting *** ***** **** ********, ** deliver ******* ****** ******** ** * supervisor, ** *** ***** *****.

** - ** ** **** - cheapened *** ****. **** ** * pay-for ****. * **** ******** * little **** *************** ** *** *******.

***** ****** ** ** ** ***** mea *****. * **** **** ************** for ********** *** ******** ** ************ of **** * **** *** **** should **... ** ** *** ** site, * *** *** ***** **. I ** *** * **** **** member (***** * *****). ** ************* and ****** ** *** ******* *** very *******. *******, * **** ******** resource ** ** **** ******* (*** actually - ***** ***) * ******* of ********** *** ************ ***** **********. So ** ******** **** **** **** a ******* ** **** ** *** site. *** ******** **** * ******** of * **** **** ******.

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Undisclosed #1
•Jan 07, 2020

** ****** **** ******"**"

**'* "***"

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John Honovich
•Jan 07, 2020
IPVM
In reply to Undisclosed #1

** *** *******, * ** *** the ******* *** *** ************ *** that ******* ** ** ********* *********, whether *** ******** ** *******, ********* or *** *******, **** ** ******* are ***** ********* ** *********. *** story **** *** ** **** -******* ******** ******* ******* ********** ************ * ******* ******* ** ****.

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Undisclosed #2
•Jan 07, 2020
IPVMU Certified
In reply to Undisclosed #1

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Chris Chambers
•Jan 07, 2020

****.... * ***'* *** ****, ** all. * *** ***** *********** ******* for * ******** ** ********* *******, and ** ** ****, ****, *******. So ******* **** * ***** ****** hurt ********, ** ******** ******* ** some ****. * **** *** ** see * ************ ** **** * single ******* ****** **** ** ********* at ***.

*** ***** ******/****** ****** ***** ** feedback ** *** *** ********, *** John *. ** *** ***** ** their *****, *** **** * ********* of *** ***** ************ *** ****** because *** ******** ** *****/*****/***. ** you **** **** ***** ******* **** elsewhere.

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Allen Hammond
•Jan 07, 2020
In reply to Chris Chambers

* ***'* **** **** ***** ******. Loved *** ******* - **** ****** to ** ******* ******* :)

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Undisclosed #4
•Jan 07, 2020

*****, ****** *** **. *** **** have *** *** **** **** ************?

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Allen Hammond
•Jan 07, 2020
In reply to Undisclosed #4

****** ** ** *** ****, ******* May **** - ********** ***** **** to */****

:)

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Undisclosed #5
•Jan 07, 2020

****** *** "********" ************* **** **** (not **** ** **** *************) *** usually ***** ** ** *** *** call ********* ** ********** ****** **** the ***** ******. *** *** ********* sure, *** ** ***** ** ***** in *** **** ****** * ******** child **** *********.

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John Honovich
•Jan 07, 2020
IPVM
In reply to Undisclosed #5

********** ** ******, * ******* ****** publicly ***********. ** ** ** ********* means ** **** ********* ** ****** and **** ** ******* **********.

*** * *** *** *** ******* who **** *** **** **** ***** IPVM ***** ******** **** **** ** out ** *** * ****** ******* they ****** ** **** **** ********** broadly.

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Allen Hammond
•Jan 07, 2020
In reply to Undisclosed #5

* ******** ***** **** *** **. Undisclosed.

*** * ****** *** *********, **** John ******** ********* * ******* ****** a ****** ** ******* ***, *** started **** *** ***. * *** out ** *******...

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Anthony Jones
•Jan 07, 2020

** *** ***'* **** **** *** hear, **** ***** *** *********. ***** of ** ** *** ******** ******** fight *** **** *******. **** ****'* want ** ** *****, *****'* **** of *****. ** *** ******* ******** and **** ***** ** *** * good *****. *** *** **** *******, Meraki, *** ****** ** ** **** the *** ***. **** ******** ******* got **** *** *******. ******* ****, at ***** ***, ******** *****. ******* had ** ******. **** ** **** not *********** *******.

** * ***** **** ********** *** here, **, *** * **** *** several ******** ******* ** *********** * read ** ****. * ** **** to ******* ******* **** ** *** story *** * ** ***********, **** might *** ******, ****** ** **** a ******** ***** ** ***** *** trusted ******** **** ***** ******** ********.

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Ryan King
•Jan 07, 2020
Pacific Audio and Communications

***** ****** ******** *** ****** * good ****. ** **** ****, *** not. ***** ***** ** ** **** serious ******-*** *** ***** ********* ** play **** ****** **** ** ***** flare ***. * **** ********* ****** but * ***'* ****** **** ** be *******. ****'** ***** ** **** some ********* ******** ***. ***'* **** it **** ** **, *** **** we **** ** ** **.

******* ********** ** * ***** ***** ago *** ****** ***** **** **** that ****. * **** ***** *** that * '******' ****** ***'* ********** bad. *'** **** ***** ****** *** several ***** *** **'* ** ****** preferred **-**. *'** ****** ******** **** clients ***** '*** **' ** ****** so *'** ******** ** ********: ****** routers, **** ***, ****** ****, **** cams. ****'* ****** **** '****.' ****** has ******* **** ******* *** ***** up *** *********** ***** ******* ** Cisco *** *********** ***** ******* ********. Maybe ******* **** ** *** **** or ** **** ****. *** ***** is, ** **** ******** ** ***** 'on *** *****' **'* * **** thing. * ***'* ******** * ****** instance ** ******'* ********* **** ***** down ***** * ******* **** **** in ****.

** *** **** ****, * **** here *** ********* **** *** ***********. I **** ** ********** ** ******** sign ** ** * ********* **** with **** ** ******* ******* **** over ***** ******* ********.

**, ** *** *** ********* ** pay ** ** *** **. * would ****** ** ** ***.

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John Poole
•Jan 07, 2020

** ***** ******* ******** ***** ** a ****** ** ****'* *******, *** does ********* *** ********** ********** **** threat? ******'* ** ** ****** **** he *** *** **********, *** ***** around ***** *** ********** ******* ** see ** *** ************ **** ********?

** ****** **** **** **** ** feeling, * ***** ********* **** ** at ***** ***** ****** *** ****** in ******-** **********; ***** ****'** ****** their *****.

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Allen Hammond
•Jan 07, 2020
In reply to John Poole

****** - ** ********** ** **** to ***. *'** ** ** ****...

*** ** *** ** **% ***-******* to **** *******. *'* **** *** the ***** ******.

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Jason Crist
•Jan 07, 2020
IPVMU Certified

**'* * ******* *** ***** ****, I **** *** **** ******* **** like **** ****** **** *** ***'* not *** *** **** **** ****'* denials *** *********, ** *** ******** and *****. * ***'* **** ** against ******* *** * *** *** exactly *** ***** *** ** ***** he *** **** *** ** ******* for **** ******* *****'* ***** ** ability ** **** *** **** **** it **.

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Ryan King
•Jan 07, 2020
Pacific Audio and Communications

**** *** ***** ***** ** ****** 'I *** *** ******* '********' **** a ****** *****.' **** ****** **** somebody ***'* *** ** **** **** 5% **** *******. ******** ***** ** quotes **** *** ***** ******** ********.

**** ** *** ****** ***** ** comparative ***** ** ****. **, **** like *** *** ************, **'* *** hot ***. *********, ** **** ******** else ** *****, ****** ***** ** it's *** ****** ******* ******* ************* or *********.

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Jason Crist
•Jan 07, 2020
IPVMU Certified
In reply to Ryan King

** ******* ****** **** ** ***** get **** ****** - *** *********. The *********** ***** *** ******** **** etc. **** *** ***** ** **** fun ***/** ********* *** ***.

***, ******** ** ****** ***** *************** and ******* **** "*****" *** ** thin ***, ** *** *****

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John Honovich
•Jan 07, 2020
IPVM
In reply to Jason Crist

*** *********** ***** *** ******** **** etc. **** *** ***** ** **** fun ***/** ********* *** ***.

**'* *** * '***', **'* ** adult *** ***** ** * ********* corporation ** *** ********.

*** *** *********** *** *** ***** 'the ******** ****' ** *** ***** his ********** ** * ******* *** sold **** *** ******** *****.

*****, *** ********** *** **********?

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Jason Crist
•Jan 07, 2020
IPVMU Certified
In reply to John Honovich

* **, * **** ********** **** delving **** *** ******* *** ********* hairs *****'* **** ** **** *****.

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John Honovich
•Jan 07, 2020
IPVM
In reply to Jason Crist

*****, *** ******* ************* *** ** a '***' *** **** ** *** information ***** '******** *****' ****** **** his ********. ** **** ** ** are ***** ** ****, * ** good.

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Jason Crist
•Jan 07, 2020
IPVMU Certified
In reply to John Honovich

***

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #7
•Jan 07, 2020
In reply to Ryan King

*** *** **** ** *** ******** for ****** *********. ***** ** ***** embellishment ** *********.

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Ryan King
•Jan 07, 2020
Pacific Audio and Communications

**** ** ******** **** ** ******:

*** *********** ***** *** ******** **** etc. **** *** ***** ** **** fun ***/** ********* *** ***.

** * **** ******** ******* ** on * ************* ******** **** ** cloud ***** ******** * **** ********** be ********** ** ***** ** ***/** related ******** **********. **** ***'* *********, this ** *********** *** ***** ******, vetting. ******* ** ***** **** ** the ******** *** ***** **** ** my ***** ** **** **, **** to **** *** *** ** *** up * ******* **** **** '***.'

********* *** ** ** '*****' **** like ****** ** **********. ****** **** point ****** **** **** **** ***** into ****** ***** ******** **** ** us. *** ** ***** ** * related *****.

** * **** **** *********** ** open *** ****** ******, **** ** my *** **********, ******** * ***** to **** ** ********** *** *********** is * *** ** ****. **** news ***** **** **** ** *** day **** ****** ******* **** ****** unmanaged ********* *** **** *** ****. So * *** *** ** ** for ***** *** **** *** *** letting ** **** **** ******.

*'** ** ******* ********** ** *** opinions ** ****** ** ******* ******, one **** ** ***** *** *** a **** ***.

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #6
•Jan 07, 2020

* **** *** * ************ **** has * ***** *******, *'* *** sure *** **** ** ** **** access *** * ***** ***** ≥**, plus * ******** **** ********* ** other ************ **** **** ****** *** have ***** *** ********** ******* ***** people ***** ** **** ** *** tabloid ** *** ******** ********. **** does *** ****** ** ** *** prevailing ******* ***** ** ********** (* don't **** ** **** ***) *** those ****** ******** **** ******* ** what **. ******* ********* *****.

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John Honovich
•Jan 07, 2020
IPVM
In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #6

**** ***** *** ********** ******* ***** people ***** ** **** ** *** tabloid ** *** ******** ********.

* ******* ****. * ***** **** of **** ** ******* **** ** critical *** ********* *** ************* ** this ******** ********* **** ** ********** of ****** ********* ******* ** **** (recall, *.*., **** ** **** **** Hikvision ********** **** **** *** *** single ****** ** ******** ********* ********). Also, * *** ** ***** **** manufacturers *** ***** ***** **** **** criticizes ***** ***********.

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Undisclosed Integrator #8
•Jan 07, 2020
In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #6

** * ******** *** ********** *********, I ***** **** *** *** ********* data ** ******** *** *** ******* to **** *** ****** ** ***** more **** ****** ** **** ******** than *.

* *****, *******, **** **** ********** on *************** **** **** * ***** have ******** *** * **** ** this *******. ***** **'* ********* ****** that ** ** ****** ***** ******** about ******* *** ********'* **** ** the **** **** ****** ***, *** language *** **** **** ********* ****** a *** (*** ** **** *****, much) ** ** *******. *****'* * fine **** ******* ****** ************* ********** and ********** ********.

******* ** **** *** ***** ******* to *** ********* ** **** ******, it***** **** ** *** ** ** sees ***, *** ** *** **** not ** ***********. * ******** ******* though ** ** **** ** ****** these ********** * *** **** ****** and ******* **** *** ********, *** site ***** ** ** ***** *** and ******* ** ******** **********. *** technical ***** *** ******* ***, ***** down, *** **** *'** ****, *** deliver ******* ***** ****** ***. ****** front-page ***** ********* ********** ************ *** having ****** ********** ** *** ********** threads? **********.

*** ** *** ********* **** ** a *** **** ********* *** **** so * ******** ** *********** ****. Your ******* *** ****.

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Undisclosed #9
•Jan 08, 2020
In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #8

* *****, *******, **** **** ********** on *************** **** **** * ***** have ******** *** * **** ** this *******. ***** **'* ********* ****** that ** ** ****** ***** ******** about ******* *** ********'* **** ** the **** **** ****** ***, *** language *** **** **** ********* ****** a *** (*** ** **** *****, much) ** ** *******. *****'* * fine **** ******* ****** ************* ********** and ********** ********.

**** ** ******* ***** * **, and * **** **** ******* ***** in *** **** ***** **** ***** thing. *** **** *** **** ** can ** ********* ** "*********", ** to *** * ****** ****, "***** jock." *** ********** ** **** *** by *** *****, *** ***** *** things **** *** ****** ** ********** or ********* **** **** ************, ** UI#8 ****, * **** ** ***************.

* **** **** *********** ***** **** any "********" ***** ****** *** ** name *** ****** **** ********. *******, executives, *** *** *** ********** **** game *** ****** **** **** ***, but * ****-***-**** ******** *******'* ** called *** **** **** ********** ** what **** **** ** ***. **** wants **** ** **** ******* ***** employee *** *********, *** **'* ********* willing ** *** ******* ******** ** blast **** ** ******** *** ******.

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Chris Chambers
•Jan 08, 2020
In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #8

********** ***********

*: to waver in mind, will, or feeling : hesitate in choice of opinions or courses

**: to sway through lack of equilibrium

****** **** ********** * *** *** you'll *** ** *** *** ***** word. **** ******** **** *** ******** you **** **** **** "********", * see **** ********* ** ********* ** any ********* ***** ** *** ****.

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Undisclosed Integrator #8
•Jan 08, 2020
In reply to Chris Chambers

**** * **** **** **** ******* diplomatically, *** ********* ******* (** ** opinion) **********, ** ***** *** ****** the ***** ***** ******** ***** ** he "*** ** ** *** ***** side ** *** ***". * ***** my *** ** *** **** *** appropriate, *** * ********** *** ******* lesson *******.

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John Honovich
•Jan 08, 2020
IPVM
In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #8

******* **** *** ********, *** **** would ** ** ***** *** *** improve ** ******** **********

* ***** **** *** **** ******* industry ********** ***** *******. **'* *** clear *** ** *** **** ** improve ******* *********** *** ******* ** call *** ********* ********.

* *** ** *** ******** ********** is ****** ******* ** ********* ******** organizatons. *** **** *** ** *** that ** ** ****** *** ********** entirely, ***** ***** ****** ****. ** might **** **** *****, ** ********* have **** '*******' ***** ****** ** Chelmsford, *** ***** ***杭州, *** ** ***** ********* *** broader ******* **** **** *** ** call *** *** **** **** ******* unethical ********.

****** *****-**** ***** ********* ********** ************ and ****** ****** ********** ** *** discussion *******?

*** *********** **** ** *** **** that *** *** ******** *** ****** bankruptcy ** *** ** ******* *** into ****** *** *******. *** *** characterize ** ** '********* ********** ***********' but * *** ** ** * public ****** *** ************* *** ********* to *** ****** ** **** ********.

****** *** ************ **** ************ *********** but * ***'* *** **** ** a '****** *********', ***** *** * respectfully ******** ** **** ****** *** I **** ** **** **** ****** calmly ********* *** *********.

#*, *******, * ***** **** ****** are ****. ***** ** ****** ***** to ** **** ********** ***** ** differences ** **** **** *** ***** to **** ** ******** ******.

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Undisclosed #9
•Jan 08, 2020
In reply to John Honovich

* *** ** *** ******** ********** is ****** ******* ** *** ********* powerful ************. *** **** *** ** end **** ** ** ****** *** criticisms ********, ***** ***** ****** ****. We ***** **** **** *****, ** certainly **** **** '*******' ***** ****** in **********, *** ***** *** 杭州, but ** ***** ********* *** ******* purpose **** **** *** ** **** out *** **** **** ******* ********* behavior.

**** ** ****** *** * ******* cop-out.

***** *** **** ** ********* ******** organizations ******* "******** ****" *** ****** exaggerated **********. *** **** *** **** about *** ******* *********** ***** **** been **** **** ** **** *** arguably ****** ******* *** ******** ***********. Information ***** **** ******* ************* ** integrators ** ******* *** ** **** WITHOUT ********** *** ********* *********. ***** are **** *************** *** ***** ************ practices **** *** ** *********** **** would ***** ***** ********* ** *** of ********** ***** ******* *** *********** exaggerations *** ****-******* ** ********. * would ***** **** **** * ***** would *** **** ******** **** ********** (and ** *** **** ***** **** the *********), *** ***** ********* **** interaction **** ******* ** ****.

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John Honovich
•Jan 08, 2020
IPVM
In reply to Undisclosed #9

**** ** ****** *** * ******* cop-out.

** *** ****** *** ***** **** you *** * ****** *** ** calling *** **** ************ *** ********** statements *** *** ***** **** ******** with ****? *'** ******* ****** *** thoughtfully **** ******** ** **** ******. Perhaps *** *** ****** **** **** courtesy ** **** *******.

****** ******* *** ******** ***********

* ********* **** ******* ***** *** naming *** ******** *** ***'* ** clear, **** ** *** ******** ***********, all *** *********** ******** *** **** information. * **** ******* ***** *******'* salesman ** * ****** - ** could ** * ***** ** ******** person **** *** *******, ******, *********, that's *** *******.

***** *** **** *************** *** ***** journalistic ********* **** *** ** *********** that ***** ***** ***** ********* ** way ** ********** ***** ******* *** unnecessary ************* *** ****-******* ** ********

* ***'* *** *** ************ ********** that ***** ** ******* ********* *** name ** *** ******* ******** **** made ***** ***** **** **********, ***** have **** ************ ** *** *******. If ***** *** ******* ************ ********** you **** ** ****** ****** ******** or ******** ******** ** **** ** should ** ****** *** *******, * am ***** ** ******** *** *******. Thanks.

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Undisclosed #9
•Jan 08, 2020
In reply to John Honovich

* **** **** ***** ** ********** to **** ****** *** **** **** you "********* ******** ************" ** * total ***-***. ****'* *** ** ************ my **** -- * **** ** disingenuous ** **** *** ********* ********* at *****. **'* **** ********** ********** to *** ********** ** ****, ** I ************ ***** ** ** ***** post -- *** *** ********* ******** organizations ** * ***-*********, ***-*********, ***-***** jock ***. ******************* ** *** ************/**********/*******, ** **** criticism ** ********* ** * ****, unbiased, *** ********* ******. ***** ************** headlines *** ****** ********** ********** ** none ** ***** ******.

********* *** **** **** ******** *********** is *** "********", **** ** **** a ******** ***-*** *** ****** ************. You *** ********** ** "*******" ************ that *** *** ** * ****** manner **** ******* **** ** "******" presence. ***** **** **** ** ********* or ********** ****** ** * ******* is * ******* ********* ***** **** doing ** **** * ****-***-**** ********. It's ******* ** *** ******* ** how ****** ******* **** * **** high ******** *** *****/******* **********, ***** private ******** **** * **** ******** and * **** ***** ** **********. This *** **** **** ***** **** his ****** ****** ********* ****** ** a ******* ** **** **** ***'** now ************ ** ** ********* ***** audience. * ***'* **** **** *********** of *****-***** ********* ** ** **** place, *** * ***** **'* * drastic *** ******** ************ ** ******. A ******* ******* ** **** ** you *** **** **** ** "****** shopper" ***** ** *** ********** **** report, *** **** *** ******** ** the ****** ** ****** ****** ******* out. *** **** *** ***** **** to ****** *********** ***** **** ******, and ** * **** ******, ** adds ******* ** *** *****. **'* completely ********** *** **********, *** *** took *** ***** ***** ** *** it.

********* ************ **********, *'* *********.************, **** **** ** *** **** limitation ********* ******* * *** *. Also,********* ** * **** ***** ** well.

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John Honovich
•Jan 08, 2020
IPVM
In reply to Undisclosed #9

***** ************** ********* *** ****** ********** statements

*** *** ****** ** ********? *** example, ** *** ******* ** *** discussing, *** ***** ********* ******** ******* ******* ********** **********. *** ***** *** ******? **** would *** *********?

********* *** **** **** ******** *********** is *** "********", **** ** **** a ******** ***-*** *** ****** ************

* ** ********* ********** ** **** stated ******* ******* ** **** ******** comment *** ********** *** '********' ******:

******* *** ******** ***********

* ***** *** ** ***** **** the *********** *** ****-*******. ** ******** on ******* ** *** ********** *** employee's **** *** ***********.

*'* *********.************, **** **** ** *** **** limitation ********* ******* * *** *.

*'* ******* * *** * *** others ** *** *****:

**** ********** *** ***** *** *** be ******** ********* ** **** ********. Use ******* *********** **** ******* **** children *** ************* ******* ** ********.

********* **** ********* *** ********* *********** may ***** **** ** **********. ******* of *** **** ** *** * license *** *********.

**** ****** ** ******* * ****** nor * '*****'. **'* ** ***** working ** * ********** *******. ** chose ** **** **** ****** ** a ***** ***-**** ***** *** ***** of *** ******** ** *** ******* of *** *** ****.

**** ***** ****, *** ***** * did ** ******* *** ******** *** **** ** *** **** / ****** ******* ** ***** ****** being **** ** ****** ** **** this ******** ** *** ****** **** he, **** ********* *** ******* ***********, move ** ** ***** **********.

***, *** * ****** *** ********** using *********** **********, *** **** ** unload ********. *** ********* ** *** from *** ******* * ** ********** to:

***** ***-***... ********* *********... ********** **********... insulting... *********... *********... ********** **********... ******** cop-out... ****** ************...

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Morten Tor Nielsen
•Jan 08, 2020
prescienta.com
In reply to Undisclosed #9

* *****.

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John Poole
•Jan 08, 2020
In reply to Undisclosed #9

********* "********** ****** *** *********",* ********* ******* *** **** ** located **:********** ****** *** ********* - *********

*'* **** **** ** ***** * story ***** *** * **** ******** lesson ** ** ***** ** ** career. * ** ** ******** *** I *** ******** * ***-****** ** behalf ** * ******** *** **** into ********, **********, ** *** ***** and ********** *** *********, ********* ** client. * ********* * ******* **** a ********, * ******** ******** *** a ****** ** * ********* ****** in ********, *** **** *** *** inside ***** ** *** **** *** bamboozled ****** *** ************ *** ** millions ** ******* *** *** *********** projects. ** **** ***** ***** *** squirreled ** **** ** *** ***** banks *** *********** ** ***** ******* that ** *** * **** **** developer (***** ********??). * *** ******** the *****, ***** *** ******** ********** of "*** *** ******", ** **** as ***** *** ***** **** **** a ******** ****** *** *** ** an ************* ********; *** ****** ******** several ***** ** *** ***** **** with ******** ******* ********** ******* *** Los ******* *****. ** ***** **** he ***** ** * ********* *** a ******** *****, ** *** ** excellent ****** *** *** ******* **** engaging.

**** * ******* ** **** ***** is ** **** ***** ** "*** the ******". * ************ **** *** reporter ***** **** ******** ** * pre-hearing ******** ********** ** ******** *** told *** ******** ** ***** *** publish **** * ******** ***** *** matter **** *** **** ******* ***** the ***** *** ******* ***** **** know * *** *** ****** ** the *****. ***** *** ** ****** of *************** ** ** ****, *** it *** ** ****** *****. **, and **** ***********, *** *******, ******* it *** **** ********* ** ******* the ***** *** ****** ** "*** the ******" ******* *** *********. * confronted *** ***** *** ***** *** published *** ** ********* ********** *** his ****** *** **** *** ******* and ********* *** ********** ** **** carefully *** **** ** **** ********* to ********** ********* ** ********* **** to *** *** ***** *** * few **** ***** ** ****.

****** *******:1) ********** ****** *** *********, *** *) ***** ** ** **** ***** ** "*** *** ******." I therefore question a reference to a presumed industry code of ethics when I experienced first hand how what I mistakenly believed was a seminal tenant, e.g. "off the record" and protecting a source, was compromised when beating the other newspapers to a story was at stake.

********* *** ******* ** **********, *****, and **********, **** **** ****** *********** ethics ** ***** *****'* ***. * am ******* ** *** ******* *********** mechanism *** ***********, ** ***** *** journalist *** ********* ***** ** ******* standards, * ** ******* ** *** enforcement ********* **** **** ***** ****** the **********, **'* ****** **** ********* with ** ************.

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Undisclosed #2
•Jan 08, 2020
IPVMU Certified
In reply to John Poole

* ** ******* ** *** *********** mechanism **** **** ***** ****** *** guidelines, **'* ****** **** *********...

****** *** *** ****. **** *** about *** ** ******, ********** ** law.

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Undisclosed Integrator #8
•Jan 08, 2020
In reply to Undisclosed #2

****** *** *** ****. **** *** about *** ** ******, ********** ** law.

******* ********* ** ************ ************* *** enforceable ********** ** ***, *** ********** have *** ******* ** *** ***** of *** (*.*. *** ******** ** medicine, ** ***). *** *** **** a ************ ******* ******* ****** ****** any ******** ***.

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Undisclosed Integrator #8
•Jan 14, 2020
In reply to John Honovich

* ***** **** *** **** ******* industry ********** ***** *******. **'* *** clear *** ** *** **** ** improve ******* *********** *** ******* ** call *** ********* ********.

* **** **'* **** ***** ******* out *** ********* ******** **** ********* the ****** ** ***** **'* ****. Choice ** ********, ****, ***. **'* not *** ******* **** * **** less **** *******, **'* **** *** delivery.

*** *********** **** ** *** **** that *** *** ******** *** ****** bankruptcy ** *** ** ******* *** into ****** *** *******. *** *** characterize ** ** '********* ********** ***********' but * *** ** ** * public ****** *** ************* *** ********* to *** ****** ** **** ********.

** **** **** ***** *** ****, why *** **** ** * ***** of ******* **** *** **********'********* ****** **** **** ********** ***********? Individuals ****** ** ************ ********** ** things **** ****'* ** *** *******'* interest ** *** ******* ***** ********, but ******* **** *** ******* **** that ****** ** ** ******** ****** between *** ******* *** *** **********. I ***'* **** **** *** ****** naming *** ******* ** ********* ** make *** ***** **********.

#*, *******, * ***** **** ****** are ****. ***** ** ****** ***** to ** **** ********** ***** ** differences ** **** **** *** ***** to **** ** ******** ******.

*** ****'* **** ******. ** * like ** *** ** ******* ** worth ********* **** *** **** *** it. ******* * ****** **** **** site, **** ** **** * ******** and ****** *********.

JH
John Honovich
•Jan 14, 2020
IPVM
In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #8

*********** ****** ** ************ ********** ** things **** ****'* ** *** *******'* interest ** *** ******* ***** ********, but ******* **** *** ******* **** that ****** ** ** ******** ****** between *** ******* *** *** **********.

* ***** ****'* **** ** *** individual **** ********* ********** ****. ** the *********** *** ******* ** *******'* office ******* ** ******* ******* ***********, "Hey ******* * ** ******** | financial ************ | ***." **'* ******* an ******** ******. *** *** *********** told ** *** **** ** * sales **** ***** ** ** ******** interaction.

****** ** ********, ****, ***

**** **** ** *******, *** **** what ********, **** ****** **** *******. Going **** ** *** ******* -******* ******** ******* ******* ********** *************** *** **** **** ******** ****** want *******? * ** ********* **** a *** ****** ******* *** ********* of *** ******** *** '********' *** I ***** * ****** **** *********** that ********** ******** *** ***** **** on ***** ******** **********, **** ** those ********** ******** ******* **** *** drinking *****.

UI
Undisclosed Integrator #8
•Jan 14, 2020
In reply to John Honovich

* ***** **'** ***** ** ******** on ***** *.

*** ****, *** ******** ** **** other ***** *'** **** ***** *** seemed * *** **** **** *******. I ***'* ****** ******* ***** ****** it ***, *** * **** ******* you ********* *** *** **** ****. ;)

UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #7
•Jan 07, 2020
In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #6

***** ** ******* **** **** *** there. *** ******** ** ******* **** deception *** **** *** **** ********** in ********* ****. ***** **** * good ****, ***** *******, *** *** best *****, ***** ** **** ***** solid ********* *********. *******, *** ******** and ********* *** ********* **** *********** and *******-**** *** ***** *** ********* opinion ****** ********* ** ****. ****'* what ***** ****** *********** ***** ** essential *** *** ***** *******.

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Daniel S-T
•Jan 07, 2020
In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #6

********** ******* ***** ****** ***** ** IPVM ** *** ******* ** *** security ********.

* ***** ** ******* **** *** happens ** ****, **** **** *** present. ***** ******/*****. **** *** ***** than ******.

* ***** *'** ********* *** **-***** a *** ***** **** *** **** six ***** ** **. (*** ** been **** ****?) * *** *** as **** *** *** ********** **** the **** ** *** ******** ******, IPVM *** *** * *** ****** as **'* *****.

* ********** **** **** **** **** to ** ****** *** ****. * used ** **** **** ** *** a *******, ** **** **** *** least ****** *** (* ***** * used ** ** **** ** ** some ******* ***** **** ******, *** that's **********) *** ****** **** * felt * ******* ********** * *****.

** *** *****, *** ***** ****** folks ****** *** *****, * **** it's **** **** ***. * ***'* know **** **********, *** * ***** that's **** *** ** **. ** maybe ****'* **** *** ****** ** text ***** *****.

**** ********* *** *** *********, * would ***** ******* ****, *** ** can **** ** * ****** ****** sometimes ***. ** *** *** *** of ******** ** *** **** *** me ** **** * ****** ****. Not **** * ***** ******** ** anything, *** *** ******** ******* **** unbearable *** **, * **********.

** ****** **** **** ***** ***'* anything **** **** ****. ** **'* easy ** *** ** ** ** extreme, **** ***** ***** ****** ** just *** "***, ** great *** ***** *** **** ******** ever!" **'* **** ** *** **** as ** ******* *** ***** *** because ***** ***'* ****** ** ** between. **'* ****, ** **** ************* disguised ** ***** ****** *** *******.

***** *** *** **** ***** **** would ***** ** ** ****** ***** be ****. **'* *** ****, *** I *** *** **** ****** *** sometimes ****** ** *****. ******* ****** from ******** *** **** **** *** me, *** ****** ** ** ***** comment * ****** **** *****, ***** is ****.

* ********** *** **** *** ** just ****** * ***** ** **** to ***** **** ****** ****** **** anything ****. *** *********** **** ***** members ***** ** ****** ** **** this **** ***** **. ** ****** the ******* *** ******** *** *******, but *****.

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John Honovich
•Jan 08, 2020
IPVM
In reply to Daniel S-T

*** ********** **** *** **** ** the ******** ******, **** *** *** a *** ****** ** **'* *****.

* ***** **** ***. **** ** gaining **********. *** ******* * *** of ******, *** *** * *** of ******** **** ******* ****** *** you *** ** ****** *** *** best ******** ** ******** *** ************ while ********** *** ******.

**** ** **** ** ******. ** now **** * **** ***** ****** who **** ** ***** ** ** ongoing ***** ** **** ** '****' is *********** **** ** ******* ** Hikvision, *****'* **** **** ****** ******* on **** *******.

*** * ** *** *** *** parts ** **** *******. '****' *********** people ******* ******** *** ******* ** just *** ***. *** **** **** we **** **** *********** ** *** things **** *** **** *** ****** technology ***** *** ********* *** ******** much ****** *** ********.

****** ***** *** *** ********, ******!

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Chris Chambers
•Jan 08, 2020

****** ******* **** ***** ********* *** exposure ** ********* *********/***** ********* ** this ******** ****** ******** *** ***** industries ***** **** **** ** ***** is ****** (**** *****, *** *******), and *** ******* ******** ******** ******* of **. ******** **** ***** ** keep ******** ******* **** ****** ** positive *** ******** ** *** ********.

*** * ***** *** **** ****** names ** **** ** *** ****, regardless ** ***** ****** * *******.

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Sean Nelson
•Jan 08, 2020
Nelly's Security

* ****** ****** ** ************ ** this ****** *** **** ** ** screenshot ******* **

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Ryan King
•Jan 08, 2020
Pacific Audio and Communications
In reply to Sean Nelson

#*****

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Undisclosed #2
•Jan 09, 2020
IPVMU Certified
In reply to Sean Nelson

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Daniel S-T
•Jan 09, 2020
In reply to Undisclosed #2

** **** *** *** ****** **** chart?

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #10
•Jan 09, 2020

** *** *** ***** ******* ** not *** ***** **** ***** ******* on ******** *******, * ********* *** original ****** ** **** * **** covering **** ******** ***** *** ** much ******** ******* *** ***** ** testing.

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David Johnson
•Jan 09, 2020

**** ** *** ****** * ********* resource *** **. ********* ********* ** to *** **** ** ******* ***** employed ** ** ********* *********** ** valuable ** ****. **** **** ******** is ******* *** **** ** ****** employed ** ***** **** *******. *'* sure *** *** **** ********* ******* in *** *** ** ***. ******* at **** ****, * *** ****** the ***** ******.

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John Honovich
•Jan 09, 2020
IPVM
In reply to David Johnson

********* ********* ** ** *** **** of ******* ***** ******** ** ** potential *********** ** ******** ** ****

******, *****. ** *** **** ** terms ** ********** ** ****, ***** are * *** ** ****** ********** in ******* '****** ********' **** ** reporting.

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Undisclosed #2
•Jan 10, 2020
IPVMU Certified
In reply to David Johnson

*'* **** *** *** **** ********* similar ** *** *** ** ***.

** ** *** ****** *** ************* *** ** ***:)

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Undisclosed Integrator #11
•Jan 10, 2020

* **** **** **** **** **** IPVM *** ** ***** *** **** continues ** ********. ********** * ***** the **** *** ***** **** *** membership (*** **** *) ******* ** opens ** ***** ******* ** *********** I *** ******* ** *** ***** possibly ***** **** ******.

****, * ***** *** **** ** a ***** ***. *** ***'* ***** your **** ** ****, ** *** bullied **** ******* **********. * **** yet ** **** ******* ******** **** provides *** *******, ****, ***. **** IPVM ********. *** ** ** ******, sometimes * **** *** *** ********* I ***'*... *** **** * **.

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Jon Dillabaugh
•Jan 13, 2020
Pro Focus LLC

*’* ******* ** **** * *** Felicia ****, *** **** **** ** almost ** *** ** ***** *********. Give ** *** ****** ****** **** IPVM *** *** ********. * **** be *******.

* ***’* ****** ***** **** ***** single *******, *** * ****** ******* the ****** **** *** **** ***** work. *** *********** ****** ** *** reviews ** ************. **** **** **** their ********* *** ******** ******, *** it’s ******* *** ******* * *** understand, **** ** ** ****** ** different. **’* ** ** *** ***** 100%.

** *****’* ****** *******, * ***** people **** **** ** **** **** a **** **** ** ***** ****** subject. ****** ** ****. (*** **** I **** **** ****). ********* ** alive *** ****. **** ** ***. It’s ******.

****** ** **** *** *** **** for *** ******* **** **** **. I ******’* ** ***** * ** today ******* **** *****, **’* *******, and *** **** ***** ******* *** contribute ****.

* *****, *’* **** ** *** with ****!! ✌🏻

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Undisclosed #4
•Jan 13, 2020
In reply to Jon Dillabaugh

*** **, ** ** **** ****** up * ******* **** ********* ***** other's *** ****** * ******** ***** to ***** ****/***** ** **** ****** you ***** ******* **** **** *****'* subscription **** ****. ******* **** ***** take **% ** **** ********* *** hosting **** *******.

****, **** ** ** ** *** subscribers *** ***** *** ****** ** on *******, *****, ****** *** **** lists, **** *** ** ** ** is *** ** *******, ******* **** 2 *****?

U
Undisclosed #2
•Jan 13, 2020
IPVMU Certified
In reply to Undisclosed #4

...*** ***** ******* **** **** *****'* subscription **** ****.

***** ** *** *** *****, *'* pretty **** **'* ************ *** ******* been ******** ************ **** **** *** next ****** :)

U
Undisclosed #4
•Jan 13, 2020
In reply to Undisclosed #2

**********! **** ** ****!

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Jon Dillabaugh
•Jan 14, 2020
Pro Focus LLC
In reply to Undisclosed #2

* ******* * **** (******) **** for * *** **** ************ *****, starting ** ****. * ******* ******** has * ****** ** ************ *** receiving ******. ** *** *** *** opportunity ** ******** ***** *** ***** questionnaires. ** ******* *** ******* ** Dec ****, ** * ***** *’** banked ****** *******. * ********** *** opportunity ** **** *** *******, *** at $***/** * ***** ****** *** if ******.

** ********, **** **** ****** **** more ** *** ******* ** ***** John *** *** ****. *** **** do **** *** **** ** ***** or ******** ******, **** ***** **** access ** ****** *** **********.

******* ** *** ** “*************” **** to **** ******** ** ********** ** another ******** ********. 🤣

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Undisclosed #2
•Jan 14, 2020
IPVMU Certified
In reply to Jon Dillabaugh

** ******* *** ******* ** *** 2024

***** ** '** **** :)

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Undisclosed #5
•Jan 14, 2020
In reply to Jon Dillabaugh

** **** ******** *** ******.

:)

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Jon Dillabaugh
•Jan 14, 2020
Pro Focus LLC
In reply to Undisclosed #5

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Timothy Howell
•Jan 14, 2020
IPVMU Certified

* ****** **** *** **** **** a ****** *** ******* *****. * see ** ***** ** *********. * know **** ***'* **** **** **** a **** ***** ** **** ******* they *** ** *** *****. ** is ******** ********** ** *** ******* stand ***** ******. * **** **** this ******, *** ** * ********** engineer, * **** **** ***** ** be **** ******, ******* * *** see ************ ****, *** *** ***, from ****** * ******* ** *** industry, ****** *** *********** *** *** folks ** *** ***** *****. * relate ***** ************ ** ** *******. I **** ********* ******* ******* **** using ********* ***** ** **** * have ******* ** **** *****.

**** **** *** ******** **** ****... "in * ***** **** ****, ******** has ** ** ****"...

***** *** *** *** **** ************, keep ** **** **** *!

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Undisclosed Integrator #12
•Jun 22, 2020

* **** **** **** * ****** for * ***. **’* **** ***** in * ************ **** *** ************.

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John Honovich
•Jun 22, 2020
IPVM
In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #12

#**, ****** *** **** ***** *******. IPVM ** **** *** ****** ** spend **** **. ** *******+ *****, ** ******* ********** ****** ****, ** *******+ ********** *******,~*** *********, ***.

*** ** **** **** ***** ****** / ******** *********** *** *****, **** people **** ****, ****** ***** ****.

******** ** *** ** ** **** you *** *******?

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Undisclosed #13
•Jun 22, 2020
In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #12

***'** **** ** * *** *** somehow **** * * ***** *** string ** ******* **?

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Undisclosed Integrator #12
•Jun 22, 2020

** *** ***** **, ***** **** should ** ******* ***** * ***** old **** ****. ** ***** * lot ** *** **** ** ****.

U
Undisclosed #13
•Jun 22, 2020
In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #12

* ***** *** ******* *** ********* on * ****** - ***** ***** up ** *** ******** ****** ** the ***** **** **** ** *** main ****. *.*. *** *** ******** on *** ****** *** ***** ** the *** ** **** ****:

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*** *********** ***** ******* **** ******* - *** ****** *** ******** ****** for *** *****, ******* ****** ***** Discussion ******* ***'* ********* ********* * ever *** ******.

***** - ** * *** ********** - *** ******** *** '****** **** membership'.... **** ** **** *** **** would **** **. ***** ***** ***** to ** ** ********* **** ****** might **.

*** **** ** *** * ****** you ***** **** ******.

U
Undisclosed #2
•Jun 22, 2020
IPVMU Certified
In reply to Undisclosed #13

...******* ****** ***** ********** ******* ***'* generally ********* * **** *** ******.

******** ****** **** ******** :)

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Undisclosed Integrator #12
•Jun 22, 2020

******** * *** ******** ******* *** discussions. ** **** ** ****** ***** got * **** ** ** ***

U
Undisclosed #13
•Jun 22, 2020
In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #12

* ******* *********** ****... ******* ** occasion. ; )

******* ** ****!

*** ***: * ***'* ***** **** this ****** ****** ** ********* ** the **** *** **** ********** ******* - ****** *** ******* ** ********* blow ** **** *********** ********** **** the ****** ** *********** **** *** team **** ***** **.

** ** *******, ***** ** ***** value ** ********** ******* ** **** offer ********** **** *** ****** ** industry *******...

UI
Undisclosed Integrator #12
•Jun 22, 2020

*** * **** ***, **** ** the ************

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Sergio Guzman
•Jun 23, 2020
Pine Crest School • IPVMU Certified

****, ** **** * **** **** you, *** *** **** ****** ** grow ** ****** *** *** **** hundreds **** ******** ** *******, *** I **** *** *********** *** **** provided ** **** *** ******* ******** I **** ****** ******* ******. *** have ********* *************** ******* ** ****** hard ********* ** **** ** ******* security *********** **** **** ****** ****** me *** ** *******. **** * paid *** *** *** ******** *** value.

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