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How Low Can Cloud-Pricing Go - Open-Sourcing The Economics

tldr: cloud storage is, IMO, a race to the bottom that will only benefit AAG (AWS, Azure & GCP) & co. Local storage (camera, server, DVR) will be around for a long time to come. The economics for cloud storage aren't ideal unless its short term or regulated in a given market. Hybrid cloud and improved bandwidth will give local storage the ability to "offload" video segments for...

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*** ********** ********* ** cloud ******* ****'* **** understood ** *** ******. Vendors (**** ******) *** having ** **** ******* assumptions ** "****-****" *** cost ** *** **** infrastructure. ***** *** **** different ************** ** **** to ********* ** *** infrastructure, *** ******* - if *** ******** *** you **** ** ******** storage ****, ******* ****** (Gb), ****, ******, **** management/logging, ***. (****** ** ****** ******* Service ******* - ****** Web ********)

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* ****** ** ***** and (******* ****) ********* by "****-********" *** **** cloud ******* ***** **** a ******'* *********** ** the ****** ******* ***

*) *** **** ****** what ********* ***** ******* and

*) ** ******* *** much ****** *** **** platform ** ******

***** *******

* ***** ********** ****** will **** ~ $*.**/***** for ***** *** ** storage (* **** = $2.03/mth, ** **** = $8.70, ***.)

*** **** ****** ** to *** ** **** - *** *** ** process/store **.

*) *** **** ******* likely *** ********** ****** vs **. *** **** savings ** ******* ($*.****/** vs $*.***/**) *** **** higher **** *** ********* Cost ** **** *** the ******** **** ** recall ** ***** *** enough.

*) **** **** **** gets ****** (********** ** size) ** ****** * PUT. *** ******* $*.**/*** thousand ****. ** ******* streaming *** ***** ***** into ******** ... ***'* assume ***** ******** *** every ** *** (*** simplicity) ... ****'* *,*** files ** $*.****/***

*) **** **** *** play/recall/query ** ****** * GET. *** ******* $*.***/*** thousand ****. ******** *** playback **% ** *** video *** ****** = 864 --> $*.******/***

*) **** ** ***** $0.0125 --> ***** * 3600 *** / * bits *** **** = 10.8 ** --> $*.***/***

*) **** ******** *** ok ******** (******* ** volume *** **** *** on *** ~$*.**-*.**/**) ... If ** *** ****** 10% ** **.*** (* lot) ****'* ~*** ** $0.075

***** = $*.**/***** *** 1 ***

- ******: ***** ** a "****" ** ***** the ******* ** **** in ******* ... ** for ******* ** *** buy *** **** ******* the **** "****" ** the ****** ***'* **** until *** *** ... on ***** * **** make ***% *** ******* MSRP *** **** *** 30% ** *** *****. Nothing ***** **** ***** this ** * *********** tactic ... *** ********* is **** *** **** have *** ******* ** buy "********" ***** ***** you ***-*** *** ******* at * ***** ***** but *** *** ** upfront... ***** *** **** of ********** **** *** customers *** ************ ** this ** ******* ********* monthly

** $**/***/***** *** ** days ** ******* *** 1Mbps *** ****** ***** pay *** $*.** (**%)

******* **** ** ********* local ******* ...

- * **** ***** is ****** $***-*** ** for ********** = $***-*** ... $*.***-*.***/**

- **.* **/*** --> $0.4968 - *.****/***

- ******** **** **** last ** ****** **** redundancy --> $*.****-*.***/*****

****'* **** **** * 25X ********** ** *****

*****, ** * ********, will ******** *** ***** vendors *** ******* *** will ***** *** * wave ** ********** ****** specific ************ (*** ****** multiple **** *** *****) but * ***'* ******* you **** *** *** data ******* ** *****.

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*** **** * ************ in **** **** ** hour - *** **** was *** ** ****.

***'* *** ***** **** this ** *** ** the **** ******* **** VC ** ******** *** $$$s ** *****?

**** **** *** ******* as ****...

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****. *** ***** ** also * ********* ** budget (**** **-**** ******** to *********). * ***** you *** ****** * confidence ** **** ********* of ** ***** ****** --> **** (******* ** growth ** *** ***** native *********).

****** ** ****** * catalyst ** ******* ... Building * ******* ** (gross ******) ******** ******** a ********* ***** **** growth *********. *** ***'* afford **% ***** ** a ***** ******... ** be **** ****** ***** are **** ******* ******** that *** ******* **** can ******* ********* ******* low ** ** ********* subscription ****** (** *********)

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******** *** ******** **% of *** ***** *** record...

*****’* *** ****** ***** in *** *** ** do ****.

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**** ****** - *'* imagine **** ******* "***** case" *** **********. **** if *** ****** *% that's ***** ~$*.**/***.

*** ****** ****** ** probably ********* ** *******. I'm ******** ***'* ** surprised *** **** ***** a **** *** **** left **, *** ****** of ******* * ******* that **** *** **********/******* over *** ****, ***.

*** ***** **, *** these *********** *** ***** worst **** ** ** effort ** ******* **** and **** *** ******* "simple" - ***** ********** is ******** *** **** you **** ** ******* retention, *** *******, *** storage, ***.

****** *** **** **** vendor ** ******** *** $/day *** *** **** to ******* *** *******. The ****** *** ******** you.

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******** * ******* ** (gross ******) ********requires * ********* ***** **** ****** *********. You can't afford 40% going to a cloud vendor...

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**** ** *** ***** vendor ** **** *** hw ****** ** ** the **** ** **-****** Verkada?

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***** ****** ** *** the **** ** ***** storage. ***** ******* *** live ** *** ******/******/*** and ***** ** ********** by ****** ******* (*******/****** apps). **** **** *** location ** ***** **** be ******* **********. *****'* still **** *** ***-*** less *** ** ****** down ** **** ******* increases ** *** ********* of ***** (***** $*.**-*.**/***/***** maybe ****).

*** ********* ***'* **** to ****** *************. ***** security ** * ******* (a *******) ** ***** them ** ** ***** job. *** ************** ** not (*********) ***** **** competency. ****'* *** *** opportunity *** ******* *** partners ** *** ***** to ****** * ***-***/***-*** model ** ****** *** network.

*'* **** ** *** some ******** ******* ***** their ***** ** * device-as-a-service (****). **** *** piggy **** *** *-* year ******** *** **** a ******* ************ ******* and **** * ****** renewal *** ******** **** higher ******. ** ****** this ** *** **** idea **** *** **** a **** ******** (** yrs).

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* ***** ********** ****** will **** ~ $*.**/***** for ***** *** ** storage (* **** = $2.03/mth, ** **** = $8.70, ***.)

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*) *** **** ******* likely *** ********** ****** vs **. *** **** savings ** ******* ($*.****/** vs $*.***/**)

**** *** *** ********** the **-*** **** ** $8.70, ** **** **** S3 ******** ** ** IA?

******* **** ** ********* local ******* ...

- * **** ***** is ****** $***-*** ** for ********** = $***-*** ... $*.***-*.***/**

- **.* **/*** --> $0.4968 - *.****/***

- ******** **** **** last ** ****** **** redundancy --> $*.****-*.***/*****

****'* **** **** * 25X ********** ** *****

** **** *****, ****'* why *** *********** **** of ***** ** ******** video ****** **-****.

***, *** *** ******** commercial ***** ****** ************* storing ***** ** *** cloud ** ***** *** who ****** *** ******* their *** ****** *****, not ***** ***, ***.

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****** ****

*** *** ** ************ were ******** **

*'* *** **** **** economics ***'* *** **** a *****-*** *** *********** of **** *** ****. AWS (**** ***** ******* purchasing *****) ******** ******** gross ******* ** ~**% as * ** *** I **** ** "*****" that ******* *** ******* is ****** **** ** the ****** ****** ******** they *****.

*************, ******** **** **** Dropbox *** *** (** $2B *** $**** ** ARR) ***** ******** ** cloud ******* *** ******* value ** ** **** public ***** ********* *** a ***** *** **** recently(ish) ******* ********* ** their *** *************.

**** **** ********* **** give ****** ********* **** you ***** ******* ***+.

****** ***, ** *** be ******* ******* (**-**% to ******) *** * still ***** ** ***'* get ******** **** *********** storage *****.

****

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