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How Low Can Cloud-Pricing Go - Open-Sourcing The Economics

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Mike Matta
Feb 26, 2021

tldr: cloud storage is, IMO, a race to the bottom that will only benefit AAG (AWS, Azure & GCP) & co. Local storage (camera, server, DVR) will be around for a long time to come. The economics for cloud storage aren't ideal unless its short term or regulated in a given market. Hybrid cloud and improved bandwidth will give local storage the ability to "offload" video segments for computes (AI), Collaboration, and Redundancy.

Full transparency, I'm the CEO @Solink (solink.com) - a cloud video and data analytics company. This post has nothing to do with Solink but is intended to have a transparent conversation about the raw economics of Cloud storage (aka "Leased infrastructure"). IMO is not ideal in video security unless the application requires it - regulatory mandated or short term (~24 hour) backup.

*** ********** ********* ** ***** ******* aren't **** ********** ** *** ******. Vendors (**** ******) *** ****** ** make ******* *********** ** "****-****" *** cost ** *** **** **************. ***** are **** ********* ************** ** **** to ********* ** *** **************, *** example - ** *** ******** *** you **** ** ******** ******* ****, Storage ****** (**), ****, ******, **** management/logging, ***. (****** ** ****** ******* ******* ******* - ****** *** ********)

**** ******* ** **** ***** **** their *** **** ******* ***** **** are ********** ***-**** **** (************** ** a *******) ********* (***, *****, ***, etc.). ** ***** ** **** ** compete **** **** ********* (**** **** buying ***** *** ***'* **** * lot ** ****** ** *** ******** like ******* *** ********). ***** ****** is ******** ** ***** "** ******" to ************/********** (********, *********, **, ***.). AAG **** ******* ********* *** ***** consumer ** ******* ** ***** ****** are **** *** ****** *****.

* ****** ** ***** *** (******* gain) ********* ** "****-********" *** **** cloud ******* ***** **** * ******'* perspective ** *** ****** ******* ***

*) *** **** ****** **** ********* their ******* ***

*) ** ******* *** **** ****** the **** ******** ** ******

***** *******

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*** **** ****** ** ** *** is **** - *** *** ** process/store **.

*) *** **** ******* ****** *** Infrequent ****** ** **. *** **** savings ** ******* ($*.****/** ** $*.***/**) are **** ****** **** *** ********* Cost ** **** *** *** ******** time ** ****** ** ***** *** enough.

*) **** **** **** **** ****** (regardless ** ****) ** ****** * PUT. *** ******* $*.**/*** ******** ****. In ******* ********* *** ***** ***** into ******** ... ***'* ****** ***** segments *** ***** ** *** (*** simplicity) ... ****'* *,*** ***** ** $0.0864/day

*) **** **** *** ****/******/***** ** called * ***. *** ******* $*.***/*** thousand ****. ******** *** ******** **% of *** ***** *** ****** = 864 --> $*.******/***

*) **** ** ***** $*.**** --> 1Mbps * **** *** / * bits *** **** = **.* ** --> $*.***/***

*) **** ******** *** ** ******** (depends ** ****** *** **** *** on *** ~$*.**-*.**/**) ... ** ** are ****** **% ** **.*** (* lot) ****'* ~*** ** $*.***

***** = $*.**/***** *** * ***

- ******: ***** ** * "****" to ***** *** ******* ** **** in ******* ... ** *** ******* if *** *** *** **** ******* the **** "****" ** *** ****** isn't **** ***** *** *** ... on ***** * **** **** ***% the ******* **** *** **** *** 30% ** *** *****. ******* ***** with ***** **** ** * *********** tactic ... *** ********* ** **** AWS **** **** *** ******* ** buy "********" ***** ***** *** ***-*** the ******* ** * ***** ***** but *** *** ** *******... ***** the **** ** ********** **** *** customers *** ************ ** **** ** usually ********* *******

** $**/***/***** *** ** **** ** storage *** ***** *** ****** ***** pay *** $*.** (**%)

******* **** ** ********* ***** ******* ...

- * **** ***** ** ****** $230-240 ** *** ********** = $***-*** ... $*.***-*.***/**

- **.* **/*** --> $*.**** - 0.5184/day

- ******** **** **** **** ** months **** ********** --> $*.****-*.***/*****

****'* **** **** * *** ********** in *****

*****, ** * ********, **** ******** the ***** ******* *** ******* *** will ***** *** * **** ** innovation ****** ******** ************ (*** ****** multiple **** *** *****) *** * don't ******* *** **** *** *** data ******* ** *****.

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Undisclosed #1
Feb 26, 2021

*** **** * ************ ** **** than ** **** - *** **** was *** ** ****.

***'* *** ***** **** **** ** one ** *** **** ******* **** VC ** ******** *** $$$* ** VSaaS?

**** **** *** ******* ** ****...

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Mike Matta
Feb 26, 2021

****. *** ***** ** **** * migration ** ****** (**** **-**** ******** to *********). * ***** *** *** seeing * ********** ** **** ********* of ** ***** ****** --> **** (leading ** ****** ** *** ***** native *********).

****** ** ****** * ******** ** capital ... ******** * ******* ** (gross ******) ******** ******** * ********* model **** ****** *********. *** ***'* afford **% ***** ** * ***** vendor... ** ** **** ****** ***** are **** ******* ******** **** *** similar **** *** ******* ********* ******* low ** ** ********* ************ ****** (ie *********)

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Undisclosed #2
Feb 26, 2021
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******** *** ******** **% ** *** video *** ******...

*****’* *** ****** ***** ** *** day ** ** ****.

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Mike Matta
Feb 27, 2021

**** ****** - *'* ******* **** vendors "***** ****" *** **********. **** if *** ****** *% ****'* ***** ~$0.22/day.

*** ****** ****** ** ******** ********* in *******. *'* ******** ***'* ** surprised *** **** ***** * **** tab **** **** **, *** ****** of ******* * ******* **** **** get **********/******* **** *** ****, ***.

*** ***** **, *** ***** *********** are ***** ***** **** ** ** effort ** ******* **** *** **** the ******* "******" - ***** ********** is ******** *** **** *** **** to ******* *********, *** *******, *** storage, ***.

****** *** **** **** ****** ** charging *** $/*** *** *** **** to ******* *** *******. *** ****** may ******** ***.

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Undisclosed #1
Feb 27, 2021

******** * ******* ** (***** ******) businessrequires * ********* ***** **** ****** *********. You can't afford 40% going to a cloud vendor...

***.

**** ** *** ***** ****** ** also *** ** ****** ** ** the **** ** **-****** *******?

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Mike Matta
Feb 27, 2021

***** ****** ** *** *** **** as ***** *******. ***** ******* *** live ** *** ******/******/*** *** ***** be ********** ** ****** ******* (*******/****** apps). **** **** *** ******** ** video **** ** ******* **********. *****'* still **** *** ***-*** **** *** it ****** **** ** **** ******* increases ** *** ********* ** ***** (think $*.**-*.**/***/***** ***** ****).

*** ********* ***'* **** ** ****** infrastrcture. ***** ******** ** * ******* (a *******) ** ***** **** ** do ***** ***. *** ************** ** not (*********) ***** **** **********. ****'* imo *** *********** *** ******* *** partners ** *** ***** ** ****** a ***-***/***-*** ***** ** ****** *** network.

*'* **** ** *** **** ******** vendors ***** ***** ***** ** * device-as-a-service (****). **** *** ***** **** the *-* **** ******** *** **** a ******* ************ ******* *** **** a ****** ******* *** ******** **** higher ******. ** ****** **** ** the **** **** **** *** **** a **** ******** (** ***).

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John Honovich
Feb 28, 2021
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* ***** ********** ****** **** **** ~ $*.**/***** *** ***** *** ** storage (* **** = $*.**/***, ** days = $*.**, ***.)

...

*) *** **** ******* ****** *** Infrequent ****** ** **. *** **** savings ** ******* ($*.****/** ** $*.***/**)

**** *** *** ********** *** **-*** cost ** $*.**, ** **** **** S3 ******** ** ** **?

******* **** ** ********* ***** ******* ...

- * **** ***** ** ****** $230-240 ** *** ********** = $***-*** ... $*.***-*.***/**

- **.* **/*** --> $*.**** - 0.5184/day

- ******** **** **** **** ** months **** ********** --> $*.****-*.***/*****

****'* **** **** * *** ********** in *****

** **** *****, ****'* *** *** predominant **** ** ***** ** ******** video ****** **-****.

***, *** *** ******** ********** ***** player ************* ******* ***** ** *** cloud ** ***** *** *** ****** and ******* ***** *** ****** *****, not ***** ***, ***.

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Mike Matta
Feb 28, 2021

****** ****

*** *** ** ************ **** ******** IA

*'* *** **** **** ********* ***'* get **** * *****-*** *** *********** of **** *** ****. *** (**** their ******* ********** *****) ******** ******** gross ******* ** ~**% ** * BU *** * **** ** "*****" that ******* *** ******* ** ****** some ** *** ****** ****** ******** they *****.

*************, ******** **** **** ******* *** box (** $** *** $**** ** ARR) ***** ******** ** ***** ******* and ******* ***** ** ** **** public ***** ********* *** * ***** and **** ********(***) ******* ********* ** their *** *************.

**** **** ********* **** **** ****** discounts **** *** ***** ******* ***+.

****** ***, ** *** ** ******* cheaper (**-**% ** ******) *** * still ***** ** ***'* *** ******** near *********** ******* *****.

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