lay off the expert claims unless you have a long resume of relevant experience to back it up.
lay off the expert claims or layoff the expert.
Scorobogataya = ???????????? (fast/quick rich)
Update: She has since removed the 'security solutions expert' claim:
The name is too funny in itself...looks like someone pounded on the keyboard. Avigilon seems desperate now being that they're hiring just like a car dealership hires sales people...just a body on the lot with no product knowledge or experience what so ever.
By the way: surname Scorobataya in Russian consists of two words, "scoro" means "fast, quick" and "bogataya" means rich. I think this fits perfectly into Avigilon strategy.
This young lady obviously made a professional mistake & when called out by John in this post - rectified it. She's probably embarrassed which is punishment enough. I think IPVM members should act like adult professionals and get off her case about it. Who among us hasn't made a similar political or social blunder in our early days (some still doing it!)
Und 2 & 3: Breaking her name down in a derogatory manner is not only juvenile but its mean spirited and unprofessional. And then doing it under the cloak of anonymity is cowardly. At least Zuchi owned it. You two should be ashamed!
RUN! The PC police have arrived!!!
Konstantin, you are right. There are more sales people with minimal experience calling themselves 'security solutions expert.'
Unfortunately, they too are from Avigilon, which works against your point.
For the record:
This helps show organization and a broader issue.
Changed the title to: Why Are Avigilon Inside Sales People Declaring Themselves 'Security Solutions Experts'?
We can debate whether it is simply 'viral' with Avigilon sales people happily copying each other or Avigilon recommending it. Either way, it is absurd that Avigilon inside sales people, novice to the industry, are billing themselves as security solution experts.
How does being a former hairdresser, victorias secret employee, insurance rep, and radio shack rep give them any ground to sell any security equipment?
Might as well let them claim title of Doctor and let them perform open heart surgery on someone.
Reference the "Box Pusher" and "Complete Solution" in IPVM posts for a better understanding.
Na, Ill pass on taking a junior sales position...too FAR below my pay grade and I have people for that in my company.
Sounds like a company title, as they are using the same wording. In light of the current turaorund in staff, after five months you will working your way towards a long standing service award, so mybe they are experts in terms of Avigilons internal team.Certainly not it terms of good people in the industry though.
Penney Jumper sounds like a great name for a Large Account specialist. I can team her up with Cha-Ching Collector. It must be a new age marketing concept in finding people with proper names to fit their positions.
CCTV PC Facism is alive and well at IPVM.
This thread is an embarrassment to IPVM, its members, and to the industry.
Could someone explain why a persons title within a company, that doesn't sell to end-users is a sin?
What's the threshold to call someone a "Sales Professional"?
Everyone better with IPVM before making any claims..
LOL! I can't believe I actually read through all of this. Now I know why whining, name calling and ridicule are done in forums.....it makes for fun reading ;-) Calling out who has what in there title, posting a picture, breaking down what a name means and actually having this in a "professional" forum is something they would call bullying in grammar school...it's childish....who in the hell really cares about this?? Seriously!! Angers me really since I am a new paying customer and am expecting professional content. A lot of it is extremely interesting but posts like this really take away from the positive content.
I was hoping my first post would have been driven by some meaningful information. Poking at people no matter which company is simply wrong. Generalizing about this maybe being an issue everywhere in the industry would have been a better approach instead of singling out specific names of people or a company. There was nothing meaningful or decent about the approach taken in this post, it was simply insensitive.
Just saying....I'm heading back to my sideline to hopefully read meaningful content.
Welcome to IPVM Chuck Cyr. Don't give up on all of us yet - most of the members (in my experience) are professional and the vast majority of the posts meaningful. Don't let a few "children" turn you off - they'll find something else to entertain them in short order.
Looks like a company policy thing.
Thank you for the fresh comments regarding a pattern of IPVM fascism. Let's not forget this thread was started by the CEO, Owner, founder, and chief IPVM antagonist, that now claims "This is far less important than other things", but felt compelled to start the thread anyway.
I don't understand, the previous experience @ Radio Shack, Victoria Secret, Aflac and Toni's Hairdressing aren't valuable to Video Surveillance?