How Do You Price a 4 Month Surveillance System Lease?

Bay Area Client wants to lease a system for 4 months including installation for knockdown at 2 locations 2 miles apart line of site

The system is required to monitor progress and could potentially be used as evidence in litigation arising from project delays when all parties point the finger at each other.

  • 2 x AXIS Q6044-E
  • 2 x AV12186DN
  • Milestone VMS
  • 2 x Netgear 8 (4 POE) Port switches
  • 2 Ubiquiti M5
  • Dell rack mount server
  • Rack mount monitor / keyboard tray

No realtime monitoring required by us.

How do you price this? Setup, Knock down, Insurance, Time and maintenance (dusty environment)??

Is there an equation partly based on the value of the system?

I guess I need to throw in a liability clause of some sort?

This deal looks attractive to me any way I look at it. Sure...I'll price it, but the LAST thing I want to do is low ball it!

Time sensitive......I need to present tomorrow.

Thanks in advance.

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*****, **** ** **** ** *******, *** ***** ** * moderate ****** ** *****-**** **********.

"*** ********* **** ***** **** ** ******** ******** ** ***** 14 ******."

****'* ** ********** ******** ********, ***** *** * ***** ** information ***** ** *** **** **********. **'* **** ********** *****.

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****, *** ******* ***** **** ** ****. ** ** ** do **** ***** ****, ***** ** **** *********, ****'* **** 20+ ***** ** ******* :)

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***********... ****, **** *** ***** **** ** *** ***most ************* *** **** ********e, but the sticker shock was too much. It sounds lame but sometimes you just want to ask, "Were we even close?". You know how when you get a written bid from someone that's more than you expected, and more than you could imagine paying, (even if the quote itself is reasonable), and you just say "yeah, right" and throw in the pile?

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  • **** **** '**** *****' **** ****, **** ***** ** ****** or ****** ** *** ***?
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  • **** *** *** '***** ** **', **** **** **** ******** the ***** $ ** *** ********, ** **** ** **** to **** *** **** ** ***** **** *****?

******* *** *** *********, * ** **** ****** ** *** right **** ***** ** ** **** ********* ****** **** *** are *********...

* **** ** ***** **** ** ** **** **** ********, but... * ***** *** ******** ****** *** * ****** ****** value, ***** ***** ****** * ******** *** *** ********** *********** lens. *** ******* *** ** ****** *** *** ****** *** on **** *** * *** ******* ** * *** ******** dollars (********* ** ***** ********** ****** **** ***), **** * couple ******* *** *** ****. ***** ****** **** ***** *****.

*. "****" ******* *** ****** *** ********** *** **** **** to ******** **** ***** *******.

*. ** ********

*. **** ***** ** ******

*. *** ** **** ***

*. **** ** ** **** *******

*******, **** ** **** ********** ** *** *****? ** *** have * ******** *******?

*. *** ****** * ***** ***** *** ******** *** ******* in *** ****** *** ****** ** ***** ** ********* **** to **** ************* ***** *** ****** *** **** ********* *** specialize ** **** "*****", *** *********** *** ***** ******** *** to. ** ********* **** *** ********** **** *** ****** *** actively ****** ** ***** *** ****, *** *** ***** ****** him ** **** **** *** **** **** ****** ** ****-*******.

*,*,*. ******** ***** ******* **** ** ***** *****, *** **** in *** ******* ******* ** ****'* **** ***** ** ** how *** ***** ****:

  • "**** ******************, *** *********** ***** *** *****, ****** ***."
  • *********************** ***** ** *** ******* ***** *****, *.*., "**** *******" and "***** ** **"
  • *** ** "******* * *** *** **** ** **?? (*'* cool **** **** ***)"

*** ***** **** ***** **** ***... **** ************...

*** *** * ***** **** ******** ** ** *** **** jobs **** **** ** ********* **********. ****** **** *good *** to me, after all when you win a low-ball bid, its indicative of the miserly way the relationship is likely to proceed once the engagement begins, so not even worth the trouble...