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Peter Goldring: "Hono-The-Clown Is Well Known Among The People Who Lead The Industry. I'm Just The One Who Plans To Make IPVM Go Away."

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Peter Goldring, SET, CFE
Nov 15, 2021
Peter M Goldring Consulting LLC

Have faith, Kyle. Hono-the-clown is well known among the people who lead the industry. I'm just the one who plans to make this site go away. Hono-the-clown, why haven't you answered my message with the audit details?

NOTICE: This comment was moved from an existing discussion: Peter Goldring: "As An Expert Witness And Industry Analyst, I Am Often Asked About IPVM And Enjoy Every Chance I Get To Debunk Their Drivel."

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John Honovich
Nov 15, 2021
IPVM

As I mentioned on LinkedIn, I've happily agreed to the audit you are paying for. I've just emailed you back asking our Head of Operations to manage:

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Why do you think you are going to do to make IPVM go away? Name-calling plus an audit that will confirm what we say? This is the plan?

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Undisclosed #2
Nov 16, 2021
IPVMU Certified

This is the plan?

If Goldring had a sense of humor, he’d ask for proof of 15,000 members

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Undisclosed Integrator #3
Nov 22, 2021

Everyone in the security industry knows Peter Goldring is a complete fraud !!!

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Daniel Lewkovitz
Nov 16, 2021

For those not on LinkedIn here's a screenshot as at the time of this comment.

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Undisclosed #1
Nov 16, 2021

Has this man lost sales commission on some Hikua cameras or something?

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Undisclosed #2
Nov 20, 2021
IPVMU Certified

Let the Fraudit begin!

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Undisclosed Integrator #4
Nov 24, 2021

Well now, this is an interesting diversion from my otherwise mundane day-to-day. This has, as they say, “Captured my interest”

Im too much of a cheap skate to gamble. But Im betting that while PG is busy aimlessly moving around his rooks and pawns, JH is already at check-mate.

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Robert Shih
Nov 24, 2021
Independent

You're giving PG too much credit if you think this was ever a chess match.

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #5
Nov 29, 2021

I feel like I've read a novel with a cliff hanger ending. What happens next???

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Brian Karas
Nov 29, 2021
Pelican Zero

I know what you mean, I keep checking IPVM expecting to see the site down, but it's still here.

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John Honovich
Nov 29, 2021
IPVM

The last email from Goldring to us was last Tuesday:

I will update you tomorrow end of business and provide a list of documents and contacts for verification as soon as it's complete.

I just followed up with Peter asking for an update.

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Daniel S-T
Nov 29, 2021

How long does it typically take to set up an audit like this? And how long would an audit take? Is this a normal amount of time to wait to even start the audit? Because it's starting to feel a bit like "I didn't think John would say yes" and now stalling (From Goldring).

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John Honovich
Nov 29, 2021
IPVM

It was Thanksgiving last week in the US so I am certainly willing to wait longer.

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Eddie Perry
Nov 30, 2021

I dont know much about the situation between John and Peter but all this popcorn is going to waste if the best we get is "Hono-the-clown"

I mean if you are going insult someone you have to do better than "Honovich to Hono-the-clown"

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John Honovich
Nov 30, 2021
IPVM

Lol, you want to encourage people to come up with better insults of me? :)

Btw, I emailed Goldring yesterday morning, no response so far.

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Undisclosed #6
Nov 30, 2021

Lol, you want to encourage people to come up with better insults of me? :)

Don't spend much time on it, we have a Facebook group for that with plenty of good ones already. I'll send you the top 10 list.

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John Honovich
Nov 30, 2021
IPVM

Post it here, LOL.

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Undisclosed Integrator #7
Nov 30, 2021

Who's up for a John Honovich Roast?

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Robert Shih
Nov 30, 2021
Independent

Where the hell is the meme-lord!? We need a Waluigi Honovich meme!

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #8
Nov 30, 2021

I got you fam

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Robert Shih
Dec 01, 2021
Independent

See, what I had in my head sucked so much more! Praise be to the meme-lord!

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Undisclosed Integrator #3
Nov 30, 2021

I think a Goldring roast would be much better.

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Clint Hays
Dec 01, 2021

I thought that was going to be part of the NJ event...

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Anthony Jones
Nov 30, 2021

Every time I see that name I think of a Bond villian in a spoof movie like Austin Powers.

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Undisclosed #2
Nov 30, 2021
IPVMU Certified

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Anthony Jones
Nov 30, 2021

That's too good to post Undisclosed!

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #5
Dec 01, 2021

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Robert Shih
Dec 01, 2021
Independent

Took me a moment to believe it was a real meme! I swear, anything goes on the internet lol.

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Undisclosed #2
Dec 01, 2021
IPVMU Certified

Took me a moment to believe it was a real meme!

Is there such a thing as a “fake” meme?

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Robert Shih
Dec 01, 2021
Independent

Fair point. Probably better to term it an IPVM made meme. I didn't think it was from a generator.

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John Honovich
Dec 02, 2021
IPVM

UPDATE:

Goldring said he took a few days off. Hopefully, he will actually start the audit. In the midst he asked for a zoom call to:

Just want to hear you verbalize your claims. I have met several pathological liars in my time. Curious if I can reliably detect speech patterns. Nothing to worry about if you're telling the truth.

What are you worried about? No fake posts?

My response:

Let's start the audit. I have not objected to the screen share, the bank account review, etc., etc. Speech patterns are irrelevant since we are doing an audit that you are paying for.

Who is the auditor? I am looking forward to get started and proving what we have said all along. Please connect the auditor and Don will commence the process with them ASAP.

His final response tonight:

Looking forward to setting the record straight. Might be a good idea to get ahead of the 15,000 lie now, but that's for you to decide.

I will get things moving tomorrow.

I am still a bit baffled that a Certified Fraud Examiner like Peter Goldring has decided before the audit occurs that we are lying. I will update when I hear back from Goldring next.

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Undisclosed #2
Dec 02, 2021
IPVMU Certified

Might be a good idea to get ahead of the 15,000 lie now…

Dear IPVM Subscribers:

It is with a heavy heart that I must tell you that you do not exist.

Sorry for any embarrassment this may cause you.

J

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Undisclosed End User #9
Dec 02, 2021

Love to be a fly on the wall in those zoom meetings. Reminds me of the days of you trying to have conversations with SR and BV.

Maybe you can live stream those zoom meetings and charge $10, donate the funds to your favorite cause. Mr. Goldring is insisting on transparency right? The Best IPVM Live Show Ever!

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Undisclosed Integrator #3
Dec 02, 2021

Peter Goldring has to shit or get off the pot already !!!

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Robert Shih
Dec 02, 2021
Independent

Just want to hear you verbalize your claims. I have met several pathological liars in my time. Curious if I can reliably detect speech patterns. Nothing to worry about if you're telling the truth.

What are you worried about? No fake posts?

Speech patterns? Really? Is he claiming yet another expert outside his stated lane? Who's the pathological liar here?

Tell ya what, when this audit is said and done and he realizes he just paid to have egg on his face, he can play Texas Hold'em against me and try to win back his money. I'm sure his "excellent" deductive reasoning and expertise in speech patterns will help him break even, right?

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #10
Dec 02, 2021

Just want to hear you verbalize your claims. I have met several pathological liars in my time.

Yep, he looks (and talks) to the one in the mirror daily!

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Anthony Jones
Dec 02, 2021

I have the same thoughts on this as I did during the Lee Odess situation. A business or a person will never be successful if their purpose or one of their top goals is to put someone out of business or to attack an individual. Being vindictive should never be a top priority in your professional or personal life. These people or businesses never win out in the end.

I am talking from my own personal history, I have definitely mellowed in my old age plus I happened upon an excellent mentor years ago. I was actually on a manufacturer's trip and met an integrator who was doing audio for nightclubs and bars but wanted to offer them security systems also. I helped mentor him into the security industry and he became my business mentor. When I was going off on a tangent, Sammy would say, does that help make Tony money? Does that help make anyone's life better? I still asked myself those questions today when issues arise. I jokingly say What Would Sammy Do?

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Undisclosed Integrator #4
Dec 02, 2021

My speech patterns have changed significantly in the past 25 years and vary widely depending on who Im speaking to and what the topic of the conversation is. This happens even though I dont lie, unless my kids are asking me for money. Thank God my looks havent changed.

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Undisclosed Distributor #11
Dec 02, 2021

OK, so a change in attack path. Maybe Peter is realising that the 15K is a real number.

I wonder if Peter is also asking linked in to be audited to verify the 'supposed' 40K + followers is accurate? Along with the 34 employees

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Perhaps at the same time the members of his IPVM hate group should also be audited, as there are 5 members, I assume including Peter, this should not take too long.

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Peter, even though I am posting undisclosed I am not now, nor have I ever been John Hanovich.

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Undisclosed Integrator #12
Dec 08, 2021

Correct because you are a clone of John Hanovich that he keeps locked in his basement to post undisclosed on his blog site.

Peter, even though I am posting undisclosed I am not now, nor have I ever been John Hanovich, a clone of John Hanovich, related to John Hanovich by marriage or blood, nor am I an AI program or a robot.

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Undisclosed Integrator #13
Dec 08, 2021

This disclaimer would allow you to be John Honovich though.

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Undisclosed Integrator #12
Dec 08, 2021

That is what I get for copying the person before me. You win I am John Honovich.

Time to go break the news to my family and employer.

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Undisclosed Distributor #11
Dec 08, 2021

I am the original not John Honovich and I gave you a funny. I also graciously allow you rights to be not John Honovich in perpetuity, without royalty fees or paid consulting charges.

Further, as you seem a good guy I also grant you right to be not John Hanovich also.

Peter, as I am certain your narcicistic self is still watching this thread, I am not now & nor have I ever been John Honovich.

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John Honovich
Dec 08, 2021
IPVM

It's been a long week, folks, please...

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #14
Dec 08, 2021

This can't be correct because I am in fact John Honovich.....

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Undisclosed Distributor #11
Dec 09, 2021

You must feel sorry for Peter, he has had a 20% drop in membership in his online hate club.

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Peter, if you are still watching this, despite posting undisclosed, I am (the original) not now, nor have I ever been, John Honovich.

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #5
Dec 09, 2021

I am not John Honovich, but I did sleep at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #10
Dec 09, 2021

Classic!

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Undisclosed Integrator #4
Dec 09, 2021

You guys sort it out. As an innocent bystander, I remain "definitely not John Honovich"

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Undisclosed Integrator #15
Dec 09, 2021

Looks like Peter Goldring and Lee Odess have just formed a new intercontinental tag team. I see a cage match in the near future....

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #17
Dec 10, 2021

Case closed! :)

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #5
Dec 09, 2021

This book has a lousy ending... first a cliffhanger, then the villain just gives up?!

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Anthony Jones
Dec 09, 2021

I hope you get 50 bucks for this one.

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #10
Dec 09, 2021

When I read “Hono-The Clown” the only thing I can picture in my head is a Hobo Clown, but instead of the napsack-on-a-stick…it’s an Arecont Multisensor on a pole, slung over his shoulder…anyone else?

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #16
Dec 09, 2021

Hono-The Clown

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #10
Dec 09, 2021

To quote the Guinness commercial from years back, “BRILLIANT!”

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John Honovich
Dec 09, 2021
IPVM

Wait, #16, if you are me why are you doing this to me / us?

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #16
Dec 09, 2021

I was being quick and lazy. Here is a better one.

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #14
Dec 09, 2021

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If you know who this is your old like me.

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Undisclosed Integrator #13
Dec 10, 2021

Hobo Kelly baby! Holla for a dolla.

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #14
Dec 10, 2021

Winner!

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #14
Dec 09, 2021

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Undisclosed Distributor #11
Dec 09, 2021

A quick thankyou to all who have contributed to this discussion, the wit is amazing & very enjoyable.

Perhaps, as Peter is apparently no longer on IPVM, perhaps we should all go over to his facebook account & thank him for the opportunity he has given us to all have a good laugh.

Peter, just in case you are still watching, even though I am posting undisclosed, I am not now, nor have I ever been John Honovich. Or John Hanovich either.

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Undisclosed #6
Dec 10, 2021

In case you are tried of following this thread, I made a website to track the status of Goldring's efforts in making IPVM go away:

Has IPVM Gone Away?

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Undisclosed #18
Jan 11, 2022

Peter Goldring has the stones to throw stones? Now that's hilarious!

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Larry Tracy
Mar 15, 2022

First I have seen this, take on John now that's just plain ignorant, so did the audit happen? Sounds like jealousy to me.

Ah IPVM has yet to go away .....dah.

what ever happened to "Case Closed" Jeffery Zwirn?

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