I can tell you that based on pictures and the text of those specs, these are a Dahua OEM. I believe that specific model is one of Dahua's higher end true WDR models. We haven't tested it, but we have tests of other Dahua models (including the HF3101, a true WDR box camera).
So Ethan's commented on the tech side, I will give the business side.
It looks like a small shop owned by a small integrator. Whois.net reports the 'HiDefTech' website is owned by a "David Sindaha" (here is his LinkedIn profile) who works at VAS Security.
The integrator here wouldn't happen to be VAS Security? :)
I'm pretty up to speed on the IP camera market. I was surprised to hear of this new manufacturer and asked the rep some of those very questions. As I recall, things got a little hazy when I pressed about where the cameras were manufactured. Definitely did NOT claim the cameras were Dahua.
That said, the integrator is making some inroads into the SF Bay Area public sector market. Everything is 3 bids or RFP and they have a pricing advantage with their OEM play. It would have been a bit more transparent to sell them as VAS Cams or similar ;)
Pro Focus LLC | 07/28/15 04:56pm
This is a Dahua OEM for sure, as already stated. The practice is somewhat common. Private labeling your cameras is a reasonable thing to do. If you have a savvy client, and they ask who really makes it, you can be proud to say Dahua. If they aren't savvy, they might think you are inventive finding a value brand that they haven't seen before. It's a win/win to me.
BTW, this statement, sounds wicked illegal.
All of our dealers sign an agreement to never sale HiDef Tech products for less than the MSRP. This means we will not be under sold!! As a dealer this is a HUGE advantage over competition and keeps your customers satisfied!!
Keep your customers satisfied with price fixing!
Btw, in case they try to hide the website connection between the two, here is a screencap of HiDef Tech's domain ownership as of today:
It's a common practice to use original equipment manufacturers and gaining an advantage is just normal business.
The fact that they don't want to tell you where the cameras are made is part of the value that they bring by not disclosing all of their sources.
Nothing more work here than that.
IPVMU Certified | 08/03/15 06:18pm
You ought to ask for the first six digits of the camera's MAC address (aka the OUI*) so you can "confirm compatibility with your VMS" or for some other reason.
If it's C:11:BF or 90:02:A9, otherwise known as ZHEJIANG DAHUA TECHNOLOGY CO.,LTD, then Hi-Def Tech is not trying too hard to hide the true maker. As of today, a WireShark OUI Lookup for "HiDef Technology" or variations of the same gives 'results not found'.
*thanks IPVM Certification class :-)
I think there are right ways of doing this and wrong ways, but the gist is this: hiding your OEM is pointless. It just means someone has to take longer to figure it out, and the will figure it out.
Be up front about it when asked. "We private label ______ cameras because we think they offer the best price/performance ratio. We've hand picked select models from their line as the cameras we choose to work with because we feel they're the best of the best and narrowing the selections allows us to provide the best pricing on these models and ensures our techs know them inside and out."
There. Feel free to use that, guys. There's an additional element with Dahua because they aren't sold in North America directly. So this is one way to access them.
IPVMU Certified | 08/03/15 09:21pm
I believe that HiDef Tech is acting unethically, but not for the rebranding obfuscation.
I agree with Jon D. that being unforthcoming about the true source of product is widely seen and accepted. I don't see anything telling me I when buying a rebrand on Q-See's or Aventura's or FLIR's site for instance.
Moreover, needing to reveal ones true source, but only if asked directly, seems a bit odd. Kind of like asking an undercover officer 'Are you a cop?'.
But I think the thing that distinguishes this from those is the questionable use of two apparently seperate entities in support of each other.
VAS acting as though Hidef is just a manufacturer that they resell makes both companies seem more legit and larger than if the truth was known. Just like setting up a web network of various companies endorsing each other, but without disclosing that they are just one entity.
IMHO, this is the real fraud...