Have You Upgraded To Windows 10?

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John Honovich
Feb 03, 2017
IPVM

A recent Economist article highlights challenges for Microsoft to get users to upgrade:

DESPITE its having been available for 18 months, three out of four PC owners have not bothered to upgrade their computers to the latest version of Microsoft's operating system, Windows 10. More than 700m of the world's 1.5bn or so computers continue to run on Windows 7, a piece of software three generations old. A further 300m users have stuck with other versions—half of them stubbornly (and rashly) clinging to 16-year-old Windows XP that Microsoft pensioned off three years ago.

A year and a half ago, we asked Will You Upgrade To Windows 10? and 76% of you said yes then.

However, have you now?

Vote inside:

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UI
Undisclosed Integrator #1
Feb 03, 2017

Wish I could... company policy.

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #2
Feb 03, 2017

We still produce our recording machines (over 100 per month) using Win 7 Pro. Solid, dependable, predictable and inexpensive. We will stick with Win 7 until Microsoft forces us to stop.

That being said, all of our sales staff and executives are on Win 10. Personally, i really like Win 10 and have found it stable and reliable.

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Undisclosed #5
Feb 03, 2017

Genetec's cloud controller runs on a version of windows 7 embedded. Arrgh.

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Kyle Folger
Feb 03, 2017
IPVMU Certified

I have upgraded my desktop to W10 Pro from W7 Pro. My laptop is still Windows 7 as the desktop was upgraded as a test to make sure everything worked.

Then I recently purchased a SP4 to gain more portability. So far that has been a good experience using a mil-spec case, the type cover, and a Bluetooth mouse. I have all the video adapters and USB adapters to give me all the ports that a full laptop has. I have used this more as a desktop than a tablet though.

I think W10 is far better than W8, but I still feel Microsoft struggles with the whole tablet/desktop combination. The fact that you have two version of Office products that both function differently is rather confusing when both are on the same device. It's like having two different websites, desktop and mobile, instead of a responsive site.

For clients that are still using W7, replacement PCs are using W7 as well. The new PCs come with the W10 license to upgrade. Microsoft's biggest mistake was to create the biggest malware notification and force it on W7 PCs. They made it too easy for users to click upgrade before they really knew what they were doing.

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Scott Bradford
Feb 03, 2017
IPVMU Certified

I switched to Win 10.  Dealt with it for several months.  I hated it so much I basically stopped using my home computer.  A hard drive crash gave me the chance to strip it out and go back to Win 7.   I enjoy my computer again

 

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Undisclosed #5
Feb 03, 2017

Ouch. Windows 10, touch screen, tab or win mode I love it and can navigate even faster than before. I still use a mouse, command line and all that however even Cortana and a finger touch and I'm all over the place in a minute.

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David Westberry
Feb 03, 2017
IPVMU Certified

I like Win10 with no complaints. I upgraded my workstation but decided to leave the rest of the office on 7. Home/Family etc got upgraded to Win10.

The way I see it is if you need any of the features in 10 then get 10. If you don't 7 is just fine.

 

Tip for working in  win10: windows key + X

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Michael Budalich
Feb 03, 2017
Genetec

Thanks for sharing the window key + x info. That is a big help.

 

I have been on W10 for about 8 months and I have no complaints. It's snappy.

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #3
Feb 03, 2017

Overall win 10 is good, but 7 was fine as well. For anyone on win 8, 10 was a must.

The automatic windows updates is killing me.  No prompt, no warning, just reboot.  Happened during a training presentation.

I have even had times where I hibernated (Full hibernation, none of this hybrid stuff), and windows woke the PC up, rebooted to apply updates, then rebooted again.  Many of the updates are failing, so I get stuck in a cycle of updates being offered, reboot, etc.

Sometimes it pops up asking if I am ready or to schedule, but even if I say later, it will still do it at some point.  No option to disable auto reboot.

Had to just disable windows updates.

I dislike the new "settings".  Can't find anything, just use the old control panel options.

Glad that all of the tablet win 8 window dressing is gone or hidden.

The tablet mode has confused the crap out of many co-workers, taking a while of describing the symptoms to figure it out...

Also getting BSOD every once in a while...

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John Scanlan
Feb 03, 2017
IPVM • IPVMU Certified

You can manage those update settings.  If you have trouble remembering where any settings are just type into the search bar / ask cortana.  (related: I launch most applications by hitting the windows key / typing the name into search / pressing enter).  Hope this helps.

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Hal Bennick
Feb 03, 2017
Trafficware, a CUBIC Company

 I haven't had any major complaints with Widows since Vista.  I have four laptops in the house running 10, and they're running well.  One is five or six years old, and wasn't a powerhouse new, but doesn't seem to be struggling.

Took me a little while to get used to not having a traditional Control Panel, but I'm over it.

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David Westberry
Feb 03, 2017
IPVMU Certified

Traditional control panel lives in Win10. Win Key + x shows these options. Game changer, personally, for using 10.

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UI
Undisclosed Integrator #4
Feb 03, 2017

I upgraded and regretted it ever since.

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Undisclosed #5
Feb 03, 2017

Definitely, awesome, love it, cannot wait for Windows 11, 12, 20 or whatever comes next. I have 37 years on machines and moving forward has become a lot of fun mixed with some heartbreak challenges. I can always reminisce on days of old with the cool green glow of my monochrome monitor, harmonic sounds of my hayes modem and the tappity zip tick tack of my dot matrix. Unix, Linux, Windows, Cloud or even my Merlin the electronic wizard are memories I have in this lifetime.

Are you are a static IP or Dynamic IP, that is the question here.

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Undisclosed Integrator #6
Feb 03, 2017

What just happened?

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Christopher Freeman
Feb 03, 2017

I removed , purchase only computers which i can reduce to win. 7 pro or change operating system. 

or i remove the windows 10 features from the system s so things operate properly and no querkey issues from the operating system . 

We Find that by doing this we have less problems . 

 

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David McNeill
Feb 06, 2017

Client has fleet of 50 machines, all but 3 are Win 7.

The Win 10 users have much more trouble - wierd update errors, Kaspersky anti-virus incompatibilities for some functions, users stuck in weird search or app screens while trying to get work done.

We take them back to Win 7, they get on with their work, less distractions, more reliable, fewer now-what moments. They use web browser, use office apps, line of business app.  Anything else is noise.

 

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Undisclosed #7
Feb 06, 2017

May be try Classic Shell

Classic Shell™ is free software that improves your productivity, enhances the usability of Windows and empowers you to use the computer the way you like it. The main features are:

  • Highly customizable start menu with multiple styles and skins
  • Quick access to recent, frequently-used, or pinned programs
  • Find programs, settings, files and documents
  • Start button for Windows 7, Windows 8, Windows 8.1 and Windows 10
  • Toolbar and status bar for Windows Explorer
  • Caption and status bar for Internet Explorer

 

 

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Jon Dillabaugh
Feb 06, 2017
Pro Focus LLC

The only people who have yet to upgrade to Windows 10 are people who don't know how, or simply have ungrounded ignorance stopping them from doing so. Some people just hate any change. Progress be damned.

Let me walk back a step or two and say that there are people who run really old software that they think won't run on Win10. I think at worst, you run a VM inside Win10 to support those old dogs while the rest of the world moves forward.

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John Honovich
Feb 06, 2017
IPVM

From IPVM site visitors for February 2017:

  • Windows XP - 0.5%
  • Windows 8 - 14%
  • Windows 7 - 45%
  • Windows 10 - 40%
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Jon Dillabaugh
Feb 06, 2017
Pro Focus LLC

There is ZERO excuses for running Win8 short of "My IT dept won't let me upgrade DIY"

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Undisclosed #9
Feb 07, 2017

I reply from my 5+ year old Win7 PC while cursing at the new Win10 PCs I am setting up for the office.  I embraced Win7 from XP but opted to skip Win8 and am only moving to Win10 because new machines = new OS...rip the band-aid off. I really dislike UAC in Win 10.  That and all the preinstalled tiles/apps.  I'm basically wiping machines to nothing and starting over.

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Undisclosed Integrator #8
Feb 06, 2017

I'm running windowa 10 with classic shell.  It works well for me.  I guess I'm just old.

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Christopher Freeman
Feb 06, 2017

when using, Programming, Managing legacy equipment you cannot always use all the state of the art systems or tracking components of windows 10. Therefore you either disable, downgrade, or just get rid of the new stuff that does not work . 

Many older systems still require Slow, Small File Size Data packets and cannot work on the new. 

We have met many techs from many company's who still buy old window s xp laptops and keep them working for the equipment they use, programs, programming. 

If not you have to have a computer genius to help determine the processor orders . 

Great I.T. Dept , Very Knowledgeable , Very Computer savy personnel. 

Best to just not make the change, if you cannot get the products to work properly. 

Or what if you get it working and then some changes need to be made and the computer guys are not around. 

What ever it takes, it need s to be user friendly for old school and new school (apt driven ) personnel 

Solution is all that counts , not means taken to get there. 

At the end of the day , all I care about is Reliability,and the completion of task.

Quarky computer Problems ( you dont need ) 

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Jon Dillabaugh
Feb 06, 2017
Pro Focus LLC

That's just it though. Win10 solves way more issues than it creates. Fixes security holes too. The only downside would be incompatibilities with old apps or hardware that can't be replaced.

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Christopher Freeman
Feb 06, 2017

For our company and clients , that problem is the 4 hour or 1 day time changer that cost too much. 

When I am at a facility that took me 4-6 hours to get to. Or had to clear in to work.

I came in from out of town and no support team . I dont have the luxury of the system not working. or the site that is in the middle of no where and no communications or cell phones, or towers with in range. or have to drive an hour to find communication s . 

I would be the technician who Threw the computer in the trash. or immediately wanted to change it out. 

Usually i have 2-3 different computers with me at all times, and phones. and just about anything simi related to my job i can get into the truck. 

Truck Packed to the max. and not a happy camper when I have to travel 2 or more hours to find state of the art adapters that work. (office supply, staples, frys, etc  

I have been in that situation many times and learned well from the past . 

Always a Boy Scout, Always  Prepared

I have 2-3 , even more cables, adapters, terminals, blocks etc of all kinds just because of the MS , need a ms tech to fix it situation. 

MS is not always accessible and usually after your at that pt. YOUR not a happy camper . 

Compatibility and Backward Compatibility that's what counts.

I have talked to many site technicians who come out , don't have a clue, figure out what they need, have to return , don't solve the problem, come out again. 

Thier usually the ones who loose thier standing with the customer. NOT Happy 

That's extreme overhead. 

Solutions, the 1st time around 

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Oleksiy Zayonchkovskyy
Feb 21, 2017
IPVMU Certified

I still use 7 Ultimate and will do until Microsoft will stop to support security in it. I have read several articles stating Windows 10 spying on everybody... Checked it... confirmed it and said let it be the world without me...

Some people will tell that I am just a paranoid dude... but I'll just say ok, let it be so...

I am just not able to get used to it all )))

I really don't like where are we going with this "easy to use and friendly" technologies like Microsoft sending whatever they want calling it "Telemetry" for our own wellness to several dozens of domains. Even Microsoft's legal specialists refused to answer the questions like What, Where and mostly Why.... Google and other companies with voice "helpers" which actually converting any device into "listening your life" devices or saving everything you've searched and each page you've attended during decade (why is it needed?) and again we even DO agree with that while agreeing with end user agreements and so on... Come on... who reads this? ))))

And the world is moving to a form of a total life control with the ability to just "disconnect" anybody who is not welcomed from the system.

I personally don't want to be a part of the future with the total accountability.

I don't remember the exact quote thus transferring the main thought. As was wisely said by Rockefeller about totalitarian new World Order:

"We will not force anybody to the new Order they will ask us to be a part of it themselves..."  

 

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