Again, looking at this as someone who doesn't know all the minor details, are these Samsung cameras or not?
There's got to be a way to turn this confusion to the advantage of the dealer, maybe:
Dealer: We carry all the big brands, you know Techwin, Hanwha, Samsung. Then there is our own line, of course, G-box. I am also authorized to sell the entire Wisenet line.
Consumer: Oh, nice, let me look at one... Hmmm, these all kinda look the same, do you got anything else?
Dealer: Not in your price range, but for a little more...
Dealer: Well, have you ever heard of iPOLIS?
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I kind of feel bad about this whole debacle. It is like watching a disaster unfold right before your eyes and not being being able to do anything about it.
Interestingly, the Samsung Group took the reverse strategy with Samsung Motors fifteen years ago, when it sold a controlling interest to Renault.
The name was changed and now the official name is "Renault Samsung Motors", but you are unlikely to hear that outside of Korea. Because inside Korea you might want a Samsung car but outside you prefer a Renault.
Samsung still has a minority interest though in Renault Samsung (20%), though so they have an incentive there to want the most advantageous branding possible.
In the case of Hanwha though, the brand "loan" has little upside and potentially large liability...
I am really starting to think you guys have a man-sized crush on SamWha. It's actually quite amusing. Problem is, it's starting to look more like TMZ and less like helpful info i normally receive from this site. Not playing sides since I am merely an integrator, but have you seen the quality of the Samsung/Hanwha product(s) drop? If so, point me in that direction. I've had a membership for a few years now but have not had as much time lately to see the recent product shoot-outs. I was "told" this is the same Techwin group that has made everything from inception, soooooo is this just a drama session or are we trying to trying to state the obvious; another manufacturer was bought by a multi-billion dollar company only to sell the product with the same product name....? (My grammar sucks, I know.)
Couple of things I find interesting.
People trust the Samsung name? Really? - this is a consumer brand name in most peoples eyes, if we were selling TVs or cell phones - it would be slam dunk but using Samsung in a prison for example, not sure that name brand helped.
Reading Tom's C's quote carefully, he didn't lie, the cameras will still say Samsung but the company's name is finally changing.
John Honovich is correct in stating that eventually the cameras will not say Samsung on them, it is just a matter of when Hanwha believes the product (not company) name change will hurt the least.
My biggest problem is everything is made in China and Korea etc. and now we have less and less choices of products that don't "sound" like they are made over seas. Hanwha, Hikvision, Vivotek....
We have been using Samsung cameras for four years and have watched the product develop to be a product line equivalent and now superior in some cases to Axis. Their new PTZ for example, feature for feature beats Axis's camera and is significantly less.
My guess is they will wait a little longer, keep expanding the size and placement of the Hanwah brand both in the literature and physically on the project and then eventually drop Samsung. At this/that point it just will not matter to most people.
...eventually the cameras will not say Samsung on them, it is just a matter of when Hanwha believes the product (not company) name change will hurt the least...
Ok, but when would that be exactly? Today. Yesterday. Last month.
Because today, every single (well made) camera that Techwin sells with the Samsung name on it makes the eventual name change "hurt" more.
Because you are reinforcing a brand name in the marketplace that you will be not be using in the future. What a waste of marketing dollars and the opportunity to associate the "superior" quality with the permanent brand!
Furthermore, when Hanwha does give back the brand, what agreements are in place that make it so the real Samsung won't start selling surveillance cameras under the 'Samsung' brand and effectively steal any goodwill the Hanwha has built for free!
Yet, if Mr. Cook is to believed, the decision is totally up to them and they could continue simply to use the brand indefinitely.
If that is true, that is the path of least hurt. Otherwise, it gets worse every day they delay, as they build up a brand they will no longer own.
Scansource obviously wanted to win the final "Samsung Techwin Partner of the Year" award, and SDM plays right along:
"ScanSource is proud to receive this great honor from Samsung Techwin, a company that continues to deliver cutting-edge video surveillance technology,” said Christie Hamberis, senior vice president of ScanSource Networking and Security. “We are pleased to have an extremely knowledgeable sales team that fully understands the Samsung STEP partner program and its processes and policies, enabling us to provide the highest level of support to our reseller partners.”
Tom Cook, Samsung Techwin vice president of sales, North America, said, “ScanSource has been a very supportive distribution partner and their creativity on bringing new business to the table has definitely reflected in their growth. We appreciate their efforts and look forward to another great year.”