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Empire's claim is vague. Perhaps they mean 50% less than their existing products, which could be the case. However, our testing shows that new H.265 cameras vs leading H.264 cameras have no real storage benefit. Worse, Smart H.264 implementations blow H.265 away.
That said, I am sure it is a good sales pitch for Empire.
Has anyone realized storage savings of "about 50%"?
Just got this Hik dome in, wasn't planning on using the h.265 codec, since I don't have a Hik recorder. For under $100 bucks for a 3MP outdoor dome it seemed a decent deal on its own.
Note: In no way should the following "test" be taken for anything but a half-ass feeble attempt to see if there is any possibility of the 50% claim.
So I set the config for highest image quality and h.264, like so:
Then I pointed the camera straight up at my ceiling fan and recorded from the browser client for 5 minutes, then stopped the recording.
The file size was ~257MB. You can view/download the h.264 clip here. It's quite exciting footage.
Then I changed the encoding to H.265, like so:
Recorded again for 5 minutes. The file size was ~127MB. You can view/download the h.265 clip here.
257MB for H.264 and 127MB for H.265
This is just one stupid test, and I claim it means nothing more than whatever you want to take from it. I would do more if anyone is interested, just be specific.
A couple things:
(1) My Zipstream comment was dumb (inadvertently funny but dumb). I just realized I said that. As you know, I meant H.264+ but made a mistake.
(2) To reiterate, H.265 is not being sold / supported in NA and I am not sure when it will be.
(3) As with our H.265 Test, we are certainly not accusing the 50% claims as being fraudulent, just not being that meaningful / valuable compared to existing H.264 cameras or, worse, new smart codec H.264 ones.
I have tested here in France with Networx and VLC stats utilities comparing H264, H265 and H265 + DgoP/SmartStream, using VBR without limits during tests
Indoor, but also outdoor conditions (more complex more moves) with Taiwanese cameras. (3MP)
H265 saves between 30 (upper moves) to 50% (quite)
H265 + Dgop( 12 - 120 Gop) /SmartStream (30 foreground to 45 % background compression) enables to save 70 to 85% of bandwidth and storage capacity, day and also at night (but you also need to enable DNR, without DNR you are dead in low light conditions with your test)
H265 - as IPVM already mentioned - occured a 20% raise in my PC CPU versus H264
So for upcoming projects I'm telling people to mention H265 in tenders to prepare future VMS migrations. No doubt it's useful especially during 24H/7D - the way to record in most public areas
Yes. On some VMS even you are not recording neither viewing the CPU is used by daemons running in background... better oversize your server.
Yes. That's what I've been told by a technical support I had mentionned my high CPU level with H265 whitout true reasons. I'm not a developper so I'm far to explain why it's so
Im a "fan" of the fan test for comparison purposes. Same movement and background for each camera tested. Good thinking. (undisclosed because of the pun)
IPVMU Certified | 06/23/16 08:58pm
Very informative, thank you.
If I get a chance I will do some software encoding and decoding tests and maybe some streaming tests with H264 and H265.
I just got the stable H265 codecs so at least can put real numbers against it
Personally, I'm seeing about a 30% savings, but that's with no tweaking applied. Plugged it in, turned it on, 30% savings. I've heard 50% thrown around quite a bit, so it might just be possible with a little effort on my part.
It's very informative.
I have downloaded both the files (FAN_264 & FAN_265) but when I am trying to play both the files in VLC media player (V 2.2.4), FAN_264 is giving video stream but FAN_265 is not giving video.
Is there any special video player required to play the video which is encoded by H.265?
Can you test and make the network bandwidth consumption comparison for H.264 & H.265?