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Getting Saas/Licensing Fatigue

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Michael Gonzalez
•Mar 11, 2021
Confidential

I was already getting SaaS/licensing fatigue as a customer, now that I'm on the other side of the fence, I don't push any of this "pay forever" stuff unless it's the only solution, or per client request/insistence.

Enterprise/Government security managers already have to constantly justify the existence of staff and security countermeasures to ward off the budgeteers, all this really does is take money out of the pot that could have otherwise been spent in a better way. Generally, sustainment comes out of the O&M budgets, same as payroll.

******: **** ******* *** ***** **** an ******** **********:**** ******** ********* ********, *****, **** Public, **** $*.** ******* *********

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John Honovich
•Mar 11, 2021
IPVM

*******, ******! * **** **** *** own ********** ******* * ***** **'* an *********** *****.

** *** *** ****, ********* **** SaaS **********. ** *** *****, ** you ***** ***, *** **** ** that ** **** *** *** *** providers **** ****** ******* *** **********.

** * ******* ** *****, **** instead ** ***** ** ********* *** if *** ***** ****** ** *** subscriptions *** **********, * ****** ***** to ** ******** ** ****** ******* the ****** **** *** ********** ****** by ****** ** *** ***** *****, perpetually.

******* ** **** ****** ***** ** this *****?

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Michael Gonzalez
•Mar 11, 2021
Confidential
In reply to John Honovich

****** ****, ****, ***** ** *******. You'll ******** **** ** ****** ** comment *****...******* ** ******** *** ***** weird **** * ****'* *** ** so * ********, ****.

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Wanchai Siriwalothakul
•Mar 12, 2021
Smart Entry Systems • IPVMU Certified

**** *** *************** ** ******** *** pricing ************ ******* ***** ** *** Internet, **'* ****** ************* ******* ** ongoing ****** ** ******* ** ******* future ******* ************ *** *******.

**** ** ********** **** *** ******** and ***** ******* ********* ***** ******** has ** *** *** *** ***** servers ***********. *** ***'* **** ** like **, *** **** ** *** direction **** ********** *** ****** *******.

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Michael Gonzalez
•Mar 12, 2021
Confidential
In reply to Wanchai Siriwalothakul

* ********** ********** *** **** *** the ******** ************, *** **** * customer *** *********** ******* ***********, ********* like **** ** ***** ***** ** inquiries **** ****** ******* **-**** ********** purchases.

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John Honovich
•Mar 12, 2021
IPVM
In reply to Michael Gonzalez

*** *** ***** ******* *** **** cost ** ******** *** *** ***** element *** **** **** ** ***** that **** ********.

** ****** ****** ***** ****** ***** analyzed ** *** *****, *.*., **** will ***** ******** ***** *** *** provider *** *** ******** *** ****** accordingly.

*** ** ****** ****** **** * way ** ******** **** ***** ** access ****** *** *** *****, *** ongoing, ***********, **** ** ** **** is ***** ***, **** *** ** many ********* **** **** **** *** free ** **** ***** ******** (********, Exacq, *********, ******* *****, ** **** a ***).

** *** **** ***, *** ****** will ******, ** ****** ****** **** sophisticated *** ***** ***** ******* **** numerous ******* ************* *** ******** ********.

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Michael Gonzalez
•Mar 12, 2021
Confidential
In reply to John Honovich

**** **** ****. ** *** *** of *** ***, * ***** **'* important ** ******** **'** ******** ******** providers. ******** ******* ***** ** *** people ********* **, **** * ******** feels ***** **** *** ******** ** being ***** ********* **, **** *****'* build *****, *** *****'* *** *** a ********. ***** ** ** **** that **** ** ******* ********* ***** great ** * ******* *****/********* ** cash **** *** *********, *** ** reads **** * ********* ******** ** those *** **** ***** ********.

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #1
•Mar 12, 2021

** * **** ******** ****** ************, we *** *** **** ******** **** RMR/SaaS ***** **** ***-***** *** ********* as ** ** **** *** ********** channel ********. **** *** ***********, ** a ******** ******* * ************ ** the **** ** **** *****, ******* of ********** ******* ** ***** *** purchase ******* ***** *****. *********** *** are ******* ******** ******** **** ** RMR ***** *** ***** ** **** a **** ****** **** ******* ********, as ***** **** **** ******* ***.

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Wanchai Siriwalothakul
•Mar 13, 2021
Smart Entry Systems • IPVMU Certified
In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #1

* *** **** ***** **** *** own ********** ** *** *********** ***** intercom ******.

**** ** ***** ******* *** ******* back ** ****, ** *** * lot ** **** **** **** ** asked *** ********* ** *** *** any ****** ** ******* ***. *** anymore. *** ********* *** ****** ** the ******** ** ******* *** ****** the ***** ****, *** **** ** tell **** **** ** **** ******* $2 *** ****, *********** * **** ** ******, ** if ****'** **** ******* ****** *** much ******. **** *** *** ********, *** market ***** ** ****** $*.** *** person ***** ** ***** ********* ******* in *** **** ** *** *** app *** $*.

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Mark Jones
•Mar 13, 2021
In reply to Wanchai Siriwalothakul

*** ** ********* ****, *** *********, it ****** **** *** *** ******* at ***** **** ** **** ********* directly. ** ***** ** ** ****** for *** **********, **** ** ***** motivation ** ********* **** *******?

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Wanchai Siriwalothakul
•Mar 13, 2021
Smart Entry Systems • IPVMU Certified
In reply to Mark Jones

** **** * * ****** ********* monthly ********** ****** *** *** ********** and *** *******, **** ** ******* private ******** ** *** ********** ***** to **** *** ******** **** *** customers. ** ******** ****** **** ** we ***'* ****** **** ** ** supporting *** ***** ********.

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*******, ** ** *******, *** **** motivation ** ********* ** *******'* ** that ** *** *** ******* * 20% *** **********, *** ******* **** we ***** *** **** ******** *** his ******** ** *** ******.

** * ******* ******* **** *** ground ** ** ****** *****-****** *********** properties, ** ************ ******** *** ******** and ******** ** ****** *** ***-****-**** for *** ********* ** ******** * complete ***** ******* ******** ** *******:

* ***** ******** **** ******* ** resident's **********.

* **** ****** ******* *** ****** facilities **** ** *** ****, ***, club *****, ***.

* ******** ******* *** ******* *******, EV ******** ********, ***.

* ********** ******** ***** *** *** notices.

* ***** ******* ****** *** ****** UPS, *****, ***. **********.

* ******* *********** *** **** ** generate ** *******, ******* *** ******* liability **** ** ****** ******.

* ************ ****** *********** *** ***** logs **** *******(*).

* ********* ****** ****** ** ***** included ** ** ***** ******.

**** ******** ******** ******** ******** ** $599 *** ******* **** **** ****** at **** $* *** ****, **** 100% *** ******* **** *****, ** based *******, ** ********* **** ** ARE *** **** ******** **** *** can **** *** **** ******** ****** segment, ***** ** **** ******** *** price.

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #1
•Mar 13, 2021
In reply to Mark Jones

**** ** * ******* ********, *** from * **** *** ***********, *** do * **** **** ** **********? We ******* **** *********** *** *** time, *** ** ** ******* * need ***** ********* *** ****** **** my ****** ******. ** * **** closes, **** *** * ********** ** the ***. ****** ****, *********** *** not **** ***** ***.

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Wanchai Siriwalothakul
•Mar 13, 2021
Smart Entry Systems • IPVMU Certified
In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #1

**********, ** **** ** ***** **** of ********** ********** ************. *** *********** provide **** ** *****, ******** **** the ******* ***** ******** **********, ******* bidding, ************, *** *** *** ** the *** **** ******** *** ******* after *** *******. *** ** **** our *********** *** **** ** ********* the **** ******** ******** ***** ******* hardware ***** ***.

**** *** ********** **** * *** using *** ******, ** **** ***** the **** *** ********** ****** ******** and ********. *** ********, ********* ***** cameras.

*** **** ****** ******** *** *** possibly *** ** **** *** ******* any ********* **** ***********?

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #1
•Mar 14, 2021
In reply to Wanchai Siriwalothakul

** **** **** ** ***** *****. In *** ****, ** *** *** only ******** ******** ** *** ******, so * ***'* *********** **** ** go *** *******. *** *** (******), our ****** ****** ** ****** ****** to ** **** ****** ******** ********* expenditures ** ** ****. ** *** industry ****** *** ******** ***** *******, we **** **** ** **** **** decisions ****** *** ********* ** ***** integrators *** ***** ******** *******. * see ** **** **** *****.

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John Honovich
•Mar 13, 2021
IPVM

*** ******** **** ******** ** *** prices *** *** ****** ** ******** that ******* ************* ** **.

** $* *** **** *** *** service, ** *** ****. *** **** at *****, ***** **** ********** *******.***** ****** **** ********* ** ~$*,*** *** month *** ******** ********.

**** ********* ********* *** ********** ******** organizations *** ***** ** **** ******* monthly ********. ** **** *****, ** they *** "***, **** ** *****", why ***'* ** **** *** ** and ** **** *** ****** *** in *, *, *, ******, ***.

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Mark Jones
•Mar 13, 2021

**** ** ******* *****, *** ******** will ********. ***** ***** ** ** some **** ** ******** ***** ** the ****** *** * ** ****** not ***** ****** ** ****** ** out. ********* ***** ** **** **** on *** ********* ********* *** ********* years ***. * **** ***** **** continued ** *** ******* * *** a *** ******-***** ******** ******** **** beyond ***** ****** ********, ** ****, as * ****** (**** **** **** pretty **** ********). ********* *** ** that **** ****** *** ** ******* not **** ****** ******** *** * better *** ** ******* ***** ******** (cloud *********). **** *** ** **** value. * ***'* **** *** ** the ******* *** * ******* ****, but ** ***** ** ** **** value ** **** ** ******* ** cloud-based ********. ********* **** *** *** it ** **** *** ******* **. But **** ** *** *******.

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Michael Miller
•Mar 13, 2021

******* **** ******* *** **-**** ** in *** ***** *** **** **** ongoing ***** ** **** ****** *******. Sure *** *** *** * ******* based *** ****** ** * ***-**** purchase ***** *** ******* *** ** patch **, *** *** ******** **********, manage ****** ******, ****** *** *** software *** ***** *** ******. **** you *** **** *** ***** ***** but **** *** *** ***'** ***** to **** * *** **** ** fix/upgrade **. ***** *** ****** **** a ****** ******/**** ** ** **** or **** ***** ** ****** **** scramble ** **** ** **** *** money?

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #1
•Mar 13, 2021
In reply to Michael Miller

***** *** ***** ******. *** ** mention, ** **** ****** ** ********** AI ** **** ***** ******** ****, who ** ***** ** ******* *** underlying ***** **** * *** *** comes ***? ********* *** **** ***********, who ********** ****** ***** **.

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Undisclosed Integrator #2
•Mar 13, 2021

*** ****** ***** ***** **** “***’* take **** **** ***** *** **** been ****** *** ******** ** ***** fix *** ***** ** ** **** purchase ***** *** ***** **** * warranty.

*******....*** ****** *** *** ******* *** servers **** **** ***** * ******* updating **? **, **** ** **** every * *****?

** **** **** ***** ****, ********, servers, **’* *** ***’* ****** **** 20 **** *** ******** *******? *** not **** ** *** ** **** as * *****?

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Undisclosed Integrator #3
•Mar 13, 2021

* ***** *** *****-**** ***** ** CAPEX ** **** ** ********* *** each **** ** ****** *** **** does ******.

*** *** **** ** ***** ***** clear. **** *******'* "***** *****" ******** for *******, ** ****'* **** **********. By *** *****, $* ** $* monthly ** **** **** ****** ***** spend ** **** ****** ******* ***** intercoms ** *******, **** ** *** gather ******** * ***** ** **** neighbors. *** **'* **** **** **** the ******** ** ** ** ********.

** * ***** ****** ** * matter ** ***** **********, *.*. ***-**** events *** ****** **** ****, ** actually **** ******** ** *** ********** center *** ***** **** ** *********; and **** ** **** **** **.

*** ****/***** ******** *** **********, *** largely ********** ********, ***** ***** *** equally ********** **-*******, ** **** ********* by *** *******/****** ***** ****** **'** talking ****** ********* ******** (***** ** less ********* ***** ***). * ** kind ** ********** ****** ******** *** email *** ****** ***** ** ****** (Gsuite) ***** ** ** ***** ** costing $*** *******. ** *** ****** fine ****** ******* ** * **** i5 ******* ** *** ******, *** nowadays ****-***** ******** ** *****.

*******, *** ************** ********, **** **** they're ****** **** ********* ******** **** to **-******* **** *****, *** **** ultimately ******** ** * ****** *****. Who ***** ***** *** *** ****** it ***** *** ** ***** **** way.

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