Door Access Device With Fire Panel Integeration

I would like to integrate my door access device with conventional Fire panel. so kindly advise me below procedure can work or Not.

1, We have 5 Door access device, all the device get power supply from one location.so we planned to cut the all 5 devices 12V 3 amp DC power adapter -ve line and joined 5 cable as single cable and pass through fire alarm panel output relay (COM & NC) then split it in to 5 cable then connect to device.

2, Our Plan is to cut the power of the Door access device if fire alarm triggers.


That would be the wrong way to do it. Use a power supply with a fire alarm interface and have it trigger the locks to open. The fire alarm relay when activated will cut power to the selected outputs. Every power supply manufacturer makes power supplies with a FAI like Altronix or Securitron. We have used hundreds of the below:

http://www.altronix.com/products/product.php?name=AL400ULACM

I agree, and most AHJs do too. Intervene as close to where power is supplied as possible, typically at the actual power supply itself. That way the 'integration' is just to shut power off for any connected components, rather than to trigger the device to shut itself off.

You will need to have a fire relay from the fire panel within 3-5' of the access panel/pwr supply. As the above mentioned tie the FACP interface off of the ACM8 board (if you go with the Altronix AL400ACM power supply) to the fire relay either NC or NO.

You can actually do it both ways, powered or non powered. But powered ensures integrety of system in event of failure. must follow msds listed diagrams

depends on application

The loop thru is a non power function , it just opens the circuit on alarm , and it depends on the type of FACP your using. and the intended application .

If Ul then you must adhere to msds and listed applications no matter what .

Each Manufacturer has their own concept of doing the same thing.

So Follow the listed MSDS on the Facp, Devices, and Code books .NEC 70,70e, NFPA 72,80,101

If your doing this type of work you should already own the codes.

should have no problems if tested 100%

If there is an AHJ that will be inspecting either this or the fire system, you must use a purpose-built power supply with a fire alarm disconnect.

My personal favorite (not affiliated with them) are LifeSafetyPower power supplies. You mention 3 amps above, and while that may be sufficient, that seems relatively low unless you're using all extremely low-power devices. Additionally, since technically your locks need to be fail-safe, that means they will all be powered, so I would increase to a 12A/12VDC power supply if it were me. Something like this would work perfectly: http://www.lifesafetypower.com/docs/ds_fpo150-c8e1.pdf

kindly check the attachment and advise me which would be the best way to do the Fire Panel integration with Door Access . Plan A decided to cut DC power Source & Plan B decided to cut AC power source.

I guess you haven't read any of the above comments. Both plans are absolutely wrong. It's not that complicated if you use a power supply with a fire alarm interface. One relay from the fire alarm and it does what you want correctly. Don't take this the wrong way but maybe you should call in a more experienced installer to help you out with this?

http://www.altronix.com/products/product.php?name=AL400ULACM

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