Do People Actually Buy Video Surveillance Systems When The Seller Hides The Make / Model???

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John Honovich
•Sep 04, 2019
IPVM

This is a long-standing practice in this industry (see: Hide or Show Models on Quotes - Integrator Statistics) but I can't really understand it as a buyer.

I recently bought a refrigerator. No appliance store that I looked at tried, in any way, to hide the model numbers. The whole thing seems comical if they did. I am not trying to be an expert in refrigerators but I obviously want to know the make and model so I can do some basic checking on things that are important - details on specs, trends of user reviews, performance/reliability claims, not made in China, etc.

** ************* **** ****** **** **** surveillance ******* ** ***** **:

***** **** ****** **** ************ ** Cu. **. $*,***

*** **** *** ***** **** ** showing ** *** ***** ********* ** was **** ** *** ********** ** whatever.

**** ** **** *** **** *****, so *********** **** ** ****:

** ****** ** **** ***** ******, evidently **** ****** *** ** **** this. ***? *** ***** *** ** you **** * *****?

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Undisclosed #1
•Sep 04, 2019
IPVMU Certified

** ********* ***** **** * ****** at *****, ** *** ***, ** hide *** ***** *******.

**, ***** **** * ***** ** a ****** ********* **** ****** * contractor **** *** *** ***** ***, no?

********** *** **** **** ** *** game ** **** *****, *** ** trying ** ******. * ********’* ***** expense *** **** *** **** ****** browsing ** *******.

**** *** **** **** * ******* remodel? ***, ****’* * ****** **** like **.

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Undisclosed #2
•Sep 04, 2019

"But * ***'* ****** ********** ** ** * *****."

*** *** ****** ****** **** *** question

*** *** **** ****** *** ****** integrator *** * *** ******

*** ** ****/******* * *** *******

*** ****-**** **********

**** **** **** *** ***** **** us ****"********" *** ********

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Undisclosed #1
•Sep 04, 2019
IPVMU Certified
In reply to Undisclosed #2

*** *** ****** ****** **** *** question

*** *** **** ****** *** ****** integrator *** * *** ******

***** *** **** *** ** ****** the ********? ****’* *** **** ***?

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Undisclosed #2
•Sep 04, 2019
In reply to Undisclosed #1

*** **** ** ** ***** **** you *** * **** *** *** premium?

*** **** ** ******:)

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U
Undisclosed #1
•Sep 04, 2019
IPVMU Certified
In reply to Undisclosed #2

*** **** ** ** ***** **** you *** * **** *** *** premium?

***********?

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Undisclosed #1
•Sep 04, 2019
IPVMU Certified
In reply to Undisclosed #2

**** ***** ****** ** ******** ******** “got *** **** ******” *** “*** to ****/******* * *** [*********] *******.”

John *** *********: ****, *** *** *’** ****** **, you’ll *** ** ********* *** ******, gel-filled *** ** ******** **********, *** cameras *** ** **, ****, **** starlight *** ***’** ******* ** ***** 100ppf *** ***** **** *********. **** are *** **** **** *******, *-****, your ***** ***** **** ** **** spiff ****.

Customer: ****’* ****. *** ***** *** *****, and * ****** **** ***** *******, like ** ********, **’* *** ********** or *********. *** * *** ********* like ****?

John *** *********: ****....****, * *** *** *** **** Hik; ** **** ** *** ***’* mind ******** * ******* ******* ** a ************ ****** *** ***** ****** abuse, ** **** ** *********** ********* a ******* ********** * ****** **** which *****-*********** ******* ***** ** ******* upon *** *** **** ****** *********.

** **** **** *** ****?

Customer: ****’** ********** *****, *****?

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Undisclosed Integrator #7
•Sep 04, 2019
In reply to Undisclosed #1

**** ***** ****** ** ******** ******** “got *** **** ******” *** “*** to ****/******* * *** [*********] *******.”

** *** ****** ***** **** ***** be ******* ** * *********** ***-****? We ****** ****** *********** ** ********** Narrator.

John *** ******* *******: ****, *** *** *’** ****** **, you'll *** ******** ********* **** ******** designed **************, *********** ***** ***********, **** for *********, *** * **** ** breed ******* *******.

Customer: *'** ******** * ******* ***** *** a ******* ** ** *******. * do *** **** ** ****** ** project ** **** **** ******** ***** product ******* **** *****. *** *** components ***** ** ****** ** ** any **** **** ******** **** *** Federal ********** ** ******* ***********? **** any ** *** ****** ******** **** involved ** *** ********* *****-******** ********?

John *** ******* *******: ****... * *** ********* **** *** product ** ** ******** *** **** since **** ******** ** *** ******* components **** ****** *** **** *** have * ******* ******* **** *** Hikvision ** ***** *****. *** ** the ******** **** *** ***** *********** testing ********* ** * ***** ***** lab **** ** ********** *******.

** **** **** *** ****?

Customer: ** **** ** ** ** *** have ** *** **** *** ** a ****.

*** *** ** ***** *** ***** way?

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Undisclosed #1
•Sep 05, 2019
IPVMU Certified
In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #7

*** *** ** ***** *** ***** way?

**, *** ******.

** *** **, ******* *********** ********. *********, **** * replied ** **’* ******* ***** **** that ****’* ****** *** ** ***** by ******* *** *** ******* ** the **** *****, *** *********** ** that ** ***** ***** ***** *********** buyers ** ******* ** *********** ******.

****, *** ***********, *** ** ** about *********** ****** **** *******, ***** is *** **** ****** ** ****** on ****** ********** ********, ***** **** corporate ******, **** ** * *********** or ***+*** ***.

JH
John Honovich
•Sep 04, 2019
IPVM
In reply to Undisclosed #2

*** ** ****/******* * *** *******

** * ****, * ** *** doubting *** ******* ** ****. * am ******** *** **'* **** *** buyers.

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Ross Vander Klok
•Sep 05, 2019
IPVMU Certified
In reply to John Honovich

** ** *** **** *** ****** and * **** ** ********** **** to ******* *** ***-**** ** **** day *** *** ***** ****** **. One ****** ** *** ******** *******.

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Kyle Folger
•Sep 06, 2019
IPVMU Certified
In reply to Ross Vander Klok

**** * ******* ****** ** ********* industries, * ****** ** *** *** model ****** ** * *** ******** the ***** ******. **** * ***** systems, * **** *** ***** ******.

********, * ********* ****** *** * lighting *******. *** ***** **** *** contractor ********* ****

* **** ***** **** *** ***, Single ****** *** ****** **** ********* Featuring * ****

** ***** *** *** ******** ********

**** ******* ****** ***** ** ****** cables. **'* *** *****. ********** **** has ***** ***** ** *****'* *** really ** ******.

**** ** **** ****** ********, **** could ****** **** *** ******** ******** I *** *** **** ***** ** top *** ******** ********. ******* * spec *****, * **** ** **** what *** ******* ***** ** *** the ******* ** *** ***** ******.

******** ** ***, **** *** ** response **** **.

* ****'* ****** ********* **** *** company * *** ** ****, *** they ******** *** *** *********** * needed *** ******** ***** ** *** products. * *** **** **** **** item *** ***** *** ** ***** shop ****, *** ** ** **** to *** ******** *** * ****** to ***** *** ******* ** **** all *** ******* ****'* *********.

** * **** ***** *******, * don't **** **** **** *******. * can ********* ***** * ***** *** and **** ** *** ***** ** reasonable ** ***. ** *** ***** is ********** *** *** ******* ** work ** *****, *** ********* *** proceed.

*'* *** **** **** ** ** be ****** ** ******* ** * quote (*) ********* (**** ********) ****** saying (*) *** ****** *********. ********* the ****** ***** ** **** ** able ** *********** * ****** *****; good...not ****.

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Undisclosed Integrator #3
•Sep 04, 2019

*** , *** *** **** , depends ** *** ************ , ***********, people ****** *** ** *** ****

********* ***** ******* ** *** **** , *** *** ***** **** *******.

**** ***** ************ * **** ** the ***** , *** ** *** item

*****, ***** , *****

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Undisclosed Integrator #4
•Sep 04, 2019

******* * ************ ** ***** ********* is * ********** (**** *******) ****** I ***'* ***** ** ** * great **********. ******** ** *********** **** point ********** ****'* **** ** ******** pieces ** ********* ***** ** ******** with **** ***** ********** ********* *********.

** ** *****, ** ** *** hide *** ****** *** ***** ** the ******, ***, ******, *** *** usually ******* *** ************* ****** ** the ***** ****** ** *** ******* we *** *******. *** **** ** not *** *** *** ** ********* to **. **** **** ** *** Features *** ******** ** *** *******, not *** ****** *** ***** **** make ** *** ******. ** ***** some *** ** ****** *** **** do *** *** **** *** ************ name ** ******** ** ** ** are *******. ******, *** * **** very ******, ** * *** ** be **** ********* **** ********* *********. Most ** *** **** ** *** markets **-***** ** ***-***** ****'* ******* or **** ********* ****** ** ********. They **** *** ******** ***/** * Price *****, *** * ********** ** parts ** ***** *** ********.

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JH
John Honovich
•Sep 04, 2019
IPVM
In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #4

******* * ************ ** ***** ********* is * ********** (**** *******) ****** I ***'* ***** ** ** * great **********. ******** ** *********** **** point ********** ****'* **** ** ******** pieces ** ********* ***** ** ******** with **** ***** ********** ********* *********.

*'* ******** ** **** **** ********* about ****** **** *** ***** ** interact ******* * ***** **** **** to ********** ** **** **** ** can ** ****** ********. ***** *****?

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Undisclosed #6
•Sep 04, 2019
In reply to John Honovich

*'* ******** ** **** **** ********* about ****** **** *** ***** ** interact ******* * ***** **** **** to ********** ** **** **** ** can ** ****** ********.

** ***** *** ****, *******, ** industry ************* - **** ***'** ****** on ***** ******** ************* ** *** technical ****** ******** ***** ** (** least) *** ********* **** ***** **** have **** ***** **** ******?

******** ********* *** **** ** ************* based ** **** **** '****'.

************* *** ***.

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JH
John Honovich
•Sep 04, 2019
IPVM
In reply to Undisclosed #6

** ******** ************* - **** ***'** vetted ** ***** ******** ************* ** the ********* ****** ********

* *** *** ** ******* ***** cheap ******* *** *** ******* ** disclose *** ****** **** /***** ** not **** ** ** ******** ************.

**'* **** ****** **** ****** ** lawyer (*** ** ******* ********* ** their *********, ****** ***** ************) *** details ** *** ********* ** *** relevant *** ******** *** **** ******* you *** ** ***** ***** ** or **** **** ***'* ***** **** things.

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Undisclosed #6
•Sep 04, 2019
In reply to John Honovich

********* ** ***** ******** (****** **** the **** **** *** ** *** disclose ****** ******* **** ****** ***** products *** **** *** *** ******** could) ********* ** *** **** **** brand ***** ********** ***** ******* ** choice ****...

** **** ** **** *** ******* with *** ********* ********.

*** ***** ******* **** *** **** slamming ****** *** ** ***** **** period ** **** *** ***** ** relied ** ** ** ** ***** as ************ ** **** **** ** customer ** ******* ** *** ***.

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Undisclosed Integrator #3
•Sep 05, 2019
In reply to John Honovich

***** *** ********* *********, ** ***** to , ** ******** , **** not **** **** *********** **** .

****** : ******** ****

** * ********** ** **** *********, Rules, ********* * ** **** **

**** ** ***** *** **** ***** is *********** ( *** ) *******

**** ********* ** **** **** *********, not **** ***** ** ****** **** ethics

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Undisclosed Integrator #3
•Sep 05, 2019
In reply to Undisclosed #6

**** *******'* *** *** *** , Project, ****** , **** ****** *** sell **** **** *** *********** **** and ****

*** ******* , **** ******** ***'* know *** ********** ******* *** ******* and *** ***** ******* , **** just *** **** **** *** .

** ***** ****, ***** ***** , easy ** *** , **** *** Happy

******** , **********, ***** **** ** their ***** ** *********

UI
Undisclosed Integrator #4
•Sep 09, 2019
In reply to John Honovich

**** ** **** **** *****, *** that **** *** ** *** **-**% that *** *********** ******** ****** ** do **** *************. * ** ** well. * ***** *'* ******** *** topic ** * ***'* ******** ****** the ******** ** *** ******** **** "Do ****** ******** *** ***** ************ Systems **** *** ****** ***** *** Make / *****?" ******* ** * stated ** ** *** **** *** models. *** ** ********** ** **** we ***** **+% ** *** **** because **** ***'* **** ***** *** model ******. *** ********** ** **** small * ****** ******* ** ***+ camera *******. ** *** ****** *** there ** **** ** ** ******** on **** *** *** ******* ******. Technical ******* ******* ** *** *********. And **** ***** ** ** ** provide *** ******* **** *** ********* we *** *******. *** **** *** IT *********** ***** ** ***** ** a *** ** ******** *** *** part *******. ** ********* **** ******** talk **** * *** ******* **** obscurification.

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UE
Undisclosed End User #5
•Sep 04, 2019

********** ********* ******** ***-**** **** -- quotes ******* ***** ******* *** *** shredder ****** ******* ** *** ****** line.

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Undisclosed Integrator #7
•Sep 04, 2019
In reply to Undisclosed End User #5

********** ********* ******** ***-**** **** -- quotes ******* ***** ******* *** *** shredder ****** ******* ** *** ****** line.

*** ** *********** #* ***** ** sell *** *** ***?

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UI
Undisclosed Integrator #3
•Sep 05, 2019
In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #7

**** ***. ** ********* , **** you **** ** **** ****. ** are *** ** *** **** ******* field , ** *** **** **** , *** ** ********** **** ***. leads ** ** ******* ** **********:

*** *** ***. **** **** * not ** **** *** *** ****,

*** **** ******** ******** ** *** changed *** ************ , *** ***** are ** **** ****** *** ***** ,

*** ******* ****** *** ****** ** see *** ********** ,

**** *** **** *******,

*** ********, *** ********* ******* ** get *** **** *** .

*** ***. ** ****** ***, *** Profit . ( ********* ** ******* to *** **** )

**** ** ** *** ** ******* in *** **** , *** **** changing *** ****

**** *** **** ***** , **** is *** ** **** *** ******* actually **** ****

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Undisclosed #8
•Sep 05, 2019
In reply to Undisclosed End User #5

***** ** ****** ** *** **** a **** ******* ** ******* ********** monitoring ***** **********. *********** *** ******** outcomes ****** ** ************ *** ******** reasons(we **** *** *****), ******** ** professional *** ** **** *** *** part ** *** ******* **** * perhaps * ****** **** **** ****** within ********** ***** ******* *******/******** ** soap *****(********) ******** *******.

** ******* ** *** **** ******, wouldn't *** ******** ****** ** '********* contractors'? ** ***** * ******* **** check **** *** ***** ******* ************* a ***** ****** ****** ** *** award ****** ** *********? ***** *********? Buddys.

** **** * ******* *********?...***** *** elite ***** *** **** ** *** doctor ******* **** *** *** ******* normal/well?....and *** ****** ***** **** **** a ****** ********** ** *** ***** rep *** ******; (*) *** *** not ********! (*)....*** *** ********!

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Colin MacPhee
•Sep 04, 2019
IPVMU Certified

* *** *** "*********" ********. ** spec'd, ** * **** ** ******* submittals **** ***. **** ******* *** not * ******. *** ***** *** customer ** ******* *** * ******** and *** **** ****** *****. **** keep ** **** **** *** ********* are *** ******** ***** *** ****. So ********* ***'* *********** **** ** much ***** **** ***** **** ***, only **** **** ***** *** ********.

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John Honovich
•Sep 04, 2019
IPVM
In reply to Colin MacPhee

** ********* ***'* *********** **** ** much ***** **** ***** **** ***, only **** **** ***** *** ********.

*****, **** **** ***** ** **, though * ***** ***** **** ****** would **** ** **** **** *** parts *** ** **** ****** *** solution. *** *******, **** ****** *** not **** ** ******* **** *** .Net ********* ** **** ******* ** that, *** * ***** * *** would **** ***** **** ******* *** or *** ** ** ***** ***** problems. ***/**?

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Colin MacPhee
•Sep 05, 2019
IPVMU Certified
In reply to John Honovich

**********. **** ** ** *** ***** don't **** **** .*** ********* ** let ***** **** ** ******** **** for ****. ** * *** *** in ***** ** ** ******** *** show *** ******** ** ******* **** us *** *** ********** *****. **** numbers ** **** ***** ***** ** become **********. *** **** ** ***** to ******** ******* *** ********** ** a ***** **** ***** **** **. a ********* ****-***** **** ** ***** to *** ***** **********.

*****

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Lee Brown
•Sep 05, 2019

******* ** **** ******** ** *** context ** * "******" *** *** just ****** / *** ******. * submit **** **** ****** ********** **** this ******** **** ** ********* *** /or *********** ***** *** ****. *** wild ******* **** ***** ****** ************ install **** ** ***** ********** ****** serve ** **** ********. ** *** may ****** *** ********* **** ** catching * ***** ********** **** *** comes ** *** **********, ******** ******, expense ** ********* ***** ******* **** to ** ******* ****** ** ****** they **** ***** ***.

***. *****, *****, ***-****, ***, ** apparently ******* ******* ****** ***********. * think *** *********** *** **** ***** proposition *** *** *** ****. **** of *** ********* ********* *** ******* is *** **** ********** ** * bit ** ***** ***** *** ***** but ********** ******.

*** **** ** *** ******* *** recording ************** ** ***** ?

**** *** *** **** *** ******* security *********** ?

**** ** *** ********** ** , virtualization ********** **********?

*** ************ *** ************* *************** ******* (in *** **********) ?

************* *** ****** *** **** ***** such ******* *** *** ********* *** not *** ****.

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Jon Dillabaugh
•Sep 05, 2019
Pro Focus LLC

** ***’** *** **** ** ***** who **** ***** ********* ** ******* without ***** ***** ** *******, * don’t **** *** ** * ******, honestly.

* **** ****** **** ******* ** my ****** *** ** *** ****** to *** **** **** ******* **, so ** **. **’* ******** * few *****, *** *** * *** deal ** **. **** ** *** process. ***** **** **** ** **** to **** ******* ******’* **** ****** from ** *******, *** ** * helped **** ***** ****** ********, **** who’s *** ******?

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Undisclosed Integrator #3
•Sep 06, 2019
In reply to Jon Dillabaugh

**** ********** *** *******, *****, *** to * ************* **** ***** *** change , *** **** ** **** industry *** * *** ** ******** in ******* *** ************* ** ***** .

**** *** ***** **** **** ********* to ******** *** ( **** **** risk ), *** **** ******* ** deal **** **** **** ******** .

* **** **** * *** ** new ******** *** **** **** *** difference

**** **** *********** *** ******** , comfort *****

***** ** **** **** *** ********

****** * *** ** **** ******* for * ****** .

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Undisclosed #1
•Oct 28, 2019
IPVMU Certified
In reply to Jon Dillabaugh

** ***’** *** **** ** ***** who **** ***** ********* ** ******* without ***** ***** ** *******, * don’t **** *** ** * ******, honestly.

****.

***, *** **** **** *** ****** a ******** **** ****, ***** *** could **** ***** **** **** ****? so **** ***** *********** **** *** waste *** **** ******* **** ***** uneducated, ********* *** ************** **** **** ;)

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Undisclosed Integrator #3
•Sep 05, 2019

***** ** *** , ** **** the **** *** ***** ** ******* the ******* , **** ** ***** the ****** , ** ***** ****** for ***** * ** *** ** and *** ***** .

****** *** *** ******* ** ***** is *** *** ** *** *********** Salesman *** *** *** ******* ******** , *** *** ********** *** *** paid *** ***** ********* ******* . The ********** *** ******* ** *** relationship ** ******* *** *** *** client

**** ** *** **** ***** , and **** ** **** ** *******, Performance , ********** *** ********

** *** *********** ** ***** , you *** **** *** **** ******* ( ***** **** ) ** * different *******'* , ********* ********, ********* names, **** * ******** ** **.** to *** , **** ** *** same *****, **** ******* *** **** , **** ** *** ******** , performance ******* *** ********* , *** the **** ************ . ********* ****** is ****. ** ***** , *** 4k ** * * , ** , ** ** ******* *** ***** 50k ** **

***? ***** *** ***** *** ** a **** , **** *** *** shop *** **** , **** **** performance ***** , ******* **** ***** labor , ** *** **** ******* for */* *** **** . ?

* ***** *** ******* *** *** like **** ***** *** **** */** and ***** **** ******* , **** that **** *-* ***** ** **** long ****** ** **** **** *** warranty .

******* : * ****** * ******* Deal **** ******, **, ** ********* , *.*********

*** ********** **** *** *** * mths , **** *** *********** **** bad *** **** * **** , then *** *********** * *** ** purchase * * **** ******** ******** with ***********

**** ******** ** ** *********

**** ******* ** ** ********** *** your **** ** ** ******* *** close ************ ** **** **** ******* the ****** ***** ** **** *** product ** *** ****** *** ****** out **** ** *** **** *** his ** *** **** ********

* ********** *** *** ******* ** this **** *** *** *** ********** in ******* *********** .

****** *****

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #9
•Sep 05, 2019

*** *********** ** ******* ******* *** security ******** * ***** *** ** Air *********** ****** ******* ** * Refrigerator. * ************ ***** **** *** inside *** ***** *** *** *** it ******** ** ********** *** ***** name *** ********* **** * ****** perspective.

** */* **** ** *** ***** hand ***** ** *** ******* *** the **** *********** **** ** ** via * ***** ** *** **** that *** ** ******** **** * Nest ** ***** ******* ****** ******. In *** **** ** ** */* system *** *** ****** ** *******, a ****/**** *****. *** ***** ** basically ********** ** **** ** ** works ** *** ***** *****, *** sufficient ******** *** ***** **** * dealer **** *** ***** ** *** recommended ** ******* *** *****.

**** ***'* ** *** *** ********* hides *** ****/***** ** ****** **** are *******, **** **** ** ***** is *** ***** ** ***-***** ******* no *** ****** ***** ** **** as *** ***** ***** ****.

*** *** ***** *********, ******* **'* A/C ** ************, ****** **** ****** care *** ** *** ******** ** the ******** ** *** ***** ******* their *** *** ** ** *** line.

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John Honovich
•Sep 06, 2019
IPVM
In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #9

** */* **** ** *** ***** hand ***** ** *** ******* *** the **** *********** **** ** ** via * ***** ** *** **** that *** ** ******** **** * Nest ** ***** ******* ****** ******

****'* * **** ******* ****** * think *** ***** ************ ****** ** more **** ** * '**** ** other ******* ******' **** ** */*. The ******* ***** ** **** ** an */* **** *** *** *** or *** ** *** **** ********* (like ****) ***, ** **** ***, something **** * ******** ** ***** to **** ** ******** **** *** understand *** **** *** ****.

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #9
•Sep 06, 2019
In reply to John Honovich

* ***** ** *** ***** ************ system ** *** **** ** ** A/C ******. *** ** *** ************** (cameras/NVR/VMS **** ***********/****/*******) *** ****** *** the **** ********* *** *** ***** end (*** ****** *** ****).

**** ***** ***** **** **** ***** a **** *** **** **** *** temp **** ********, **** ** **** users **** **** ***** ***** ** case ** ** ******** ** ** have ******* ** ***** *****/*****. ***** users **** **** ******** *** ***** in **** ** **** ********** * bit ** ***** *** ** **** are **** ********* ** *** ********** process.

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Undisclosed Integrator #3
•Sep 06, 2019
In reply to John Honovich

**** **** ***** ** **** ** other ******** *** *****.

*** *********** ******* **** *** ***** for **** ******* & *********** , Interrogation

**: **** , *****, ** , off , **** ***** ****, ******** control, ********* ** *********, *********, **** up , **** **** , ***** times , *** **** ***** *********** that ** **** *** *********** ******.

**** **** ****** ******* , ** you **** ** *** *** ***** , *********** (******* ) ( ******** package ) *** *** * *** difference .

******** ** ***** , ****, *** different **** , *** ********* ***** of ********* **** ** *** ****** and ********* ** *** ******* *** built **** *** ****** *** ******** with ** *** ******** ( *** )

***** ** * **** *** *** audience *** ** *** *** ***** of *** ****** ************ ****.

*** ****** *** *********** ** ************** is ** *** *** *** **** know **** **** *** **** ******** control ** ********* , *** **** turn ** ** *** , **** is ** ** *** **** ** the **********

******* *** *********** ** *********** ( day, ****, ****, **** , ********* of ********* ** ******* *** ***** decisions **** ** *** ******* ( A/I )

** ******* *** *** ** *** even ** *** **** *****

*** ****** ** *** *** *** user ** **** *********** ******** ******** s , *** **** *** ****

* ******* **** ** *** *** need ** ******* *** ***** , so **** **** ******** *-* ***** and *** ***** ** *** ******* or *** * ********** ****** *** twice *** ***** .

**** ******* *** *** **** ***** and ** * ************ ***** ** Expertise

* *** ******** ***** ****** ** JUNK ** ******* , *******, ******* systems ** ***** **********

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Chris Chambers
•Oct 28, 2019
In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #9

* ******* ******* **** ***** *******. American ******** *** ***** (**** ** the **** *.*. ******* *** ****** identical ***** **** *** **********. ** installer **** ***** ******* ***** ***** and ******** ******** ******* ********** *****.) have *** ****** ****** *****. **** of *** ***** ****** *** **** higher. ** *** ***'* ******** *********** (at *****) ***** ** *********** *** an ** ****** *******, *** **** failed *********. *** *** *** *** a ***** **** ***** **** ****** defect *****, *** ** ***** *** know **** ***'** ****** ***.

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Undisclosed Integrator #3
•Sep 05, 2019

****** , *** * **** ****** with * ****** *** ( ** charge ** ***** ***** ** ********** , *** ********* *** ********* ** certain ************* , ******** *** **** , *** *** **** *** ***** for *** ** * ***** **** for *******, ********, ***. , ** you *** **** **** ******* , leave *** ****** ****** **** *** get *** *** *** ** ** the **** *** *** **** * years

*** ** **** ** **** ********** , *** ** ************ * , managerial *************

**** **** * ********** *** ** Clue *** ******* ** ************ *** competent ****** .

**** ***** ** ******* , ****** based ** **** , *******, ******* , ************ , *** ** ******

**** **** ****** **** **** *** agency ******** ** ********* ** *** long *** *** ** *************** **** other * , *** *********** ****** . ** * ********** *** **** this *** , ** * ********** you **** ****, ** * ********** you **** ****** ** **** , as * ******* *** **** **** out ****** ***** ** , **** the **** ****** ***** .

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Kevin White
•Sep 05, 2019
IPVMU Certified

* ***** ** *** ** *********. many ***** * ** ** ******* another ******* *** *** ***** ****** "the ***** ******* ** ******* ** 5mp *******". * *** **** ****? and ******* **** ***'* ****. ***** it ********* ***** ***** *** *** cameras ** "*****" ***** ** *** prices.

**** ***** *** ***** ********* **** use "*******" ***** ***** *** ***** systems. **** **** ****** **** *** "XYZ *******" ***** ****. **** ***'* tell *** **** ** ** * private ***** *** ****** **** ***** china ******.

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Undisclosed Integrator #3
•Sep 05, 2019
In reply to Kevin White

* ** * *** ** ******** accounts , **** * ******* , i *** *** **** , *** then ******* ** ** **** *** thing , ******* ***** , ***** like , ******** ****** ********* , programs **** *** **** , **** is ****** *** ****

** * *** *** ** ****** in *** ***** , * ***** not **** *** **********

* *** *** **.** ****** , NVR **** *** **** ***** ** the ***.** ****** , ***

*** **** ***** *** **** ****** so *** **** *** ***** ********** , *** ****** ****** *** **** situation

******* **** *** **** , **** get ******* ******** *** ********* *** not **** , *** ** * lot ** *** **** .

******* ******** , **** ******, *****, axis, **** **** **** ******* , but **** ****** **

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Sean Nelson
•Sep 05, 2019
Nelly's Security

* ***** *** ***** ******* *** changed ************ **** *** **** ******* years *** * ***** **** ** our ******** ** ***** ** * sales ******* **** ****** **-** ***** ago. *** ************ ** *********** ** the ******** ** ** *****. *** explain **** * ***** ***** ** change:

- * ***** ** ************* *** going ** ***** ***** ***** ** have ****** ***** ** *** ****, they **** ** **** ** **** a ********** *** ****** ***** ** makes ***** *** *** ******* ******** (Distributors, **********, *** *****) *** **** need ** ******** ******* **. ************* in *** ******** **** *** *** adapted ** *** ******** ***.

- *********** **** **** ******* ** price ******** ** **** *** ******* a ********* ***** **** ** ******** or ***** *** *** ******* ********.

- ** ** *******, ** ** integrator ** ******* * **** ***** that ** ****** ***** ** *** internet, **** ****** ***** ***** ********* within * ********** ****** ** *** average ******** *****, **** **** *** profit **** **** ****** ** **** off *** ********* *** ********** **** into ************ *****. *** *** ***** making *** **** ****** ** *****, but **** ********** **** ************ *****. In ** *******, **** ***** **** gouging **** * ****** ***********.

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Undisclosed Integrator #7
•Sep 05, 2019
In reply to Sean Nelson

**** *** ****** **** **** ****** to **** *** *** ********* *** transition **** **** ************ *****.

** * ******* ****** **** ** possible. *** *** ** **** ******** is **** *** ******** ****** ** feel **** ***** ** *** **** costly **** ******. **** **** ****** it *****'* ****** **** ***** ** equipment ** ******** *** ********** ********* blacklists ***. ** ***** ****** ** out ******** ******** *** *********** ** pivot ** ******* (*******) *******.

**** **** ** **** ** **** a ********** *** ******

****, *** ****, ** ********* **** needs ** ** ****. ******** ** is ********* ** ** ** ** not ******** ******** ** ** ******** to *** **** ******** **** ****. If *&* ** ******* **** ********** with ***** ***** *** ****** **** the ************ ***** ******** ** **** back ****.

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Jon Dillabaugh
•Sep 05, 2019
Pro Focus LLC
In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #7

*&* ***’* ****** ******. **** **** ship **** ***, ** **’* ****** for *** *** ** ******* **** B&H ****.

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Undisclosed Integrator #7
•Sep 06, 2019
In reply to Jon Dillabaugh

*&* ***’* ****** ******. **** **** ship **** ***, ** **’* ****** for *** *** ** ******* **** B&H ****.

*&* *** * *** *********. ****** in *** ***** **** ***** ****** seller **** ***** ******. ** ***** is ****** ******* ** * ******** method *** ************ *****, *** ********* Avigirola.

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Undisclosed #1
•Sep 06, 2019
IPVMU Certified
In reply to Jon Dillabaugh

*&* ***’* ****** ******. **** **** ship **** ***, ** **’* ****** for *** *** ** ******* **** B&H ****.

Axis *********: “We bought an Axis camera from B&H, ADI shipped it to us. B&H is selling and advertising under MAP. Can you stop selling to them? “

ADI *********: “Ha! Very funny.... Wait, are you guys serious?”

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Steve Stowe
•Sep 05, 2019
In reply to Sean Nelson

* ***** **** **** ** **** and ** ***** ***** ******** ****** than ***** *******. * ****** ******* a *** *** * *** ***** ago ***** **** ******* *** *** end **** ******* *** **** #'* online *** ***** ** **** ** purchase **** *** ****** *** ***** to *** **** ** *** ******* than *** *********** ****.

* **** ***** **** **#* ***** that ******** ****** ** ***** **** not **** **** **** ***** ** much ****** **** **** **********.

* *** ** ******* ** *** customer **** ** ***** ******** ******** and **** ** ******** ** ********* than *** ****** ********* ********. * will **** *** ***** ****** ** labor ******** ****** *** ************ *** camera *** ** * *** ** cases ** ***** *** ******* ** if ** ** ********* ** ** bad. *** ****** ******** **** **** them ** **** ** **** *** ship ** **** ***** *** *** process. **** ****** *** ** *** others ** ***.

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Jason Gould
•Sep 10, 2019
In reply to Steve Stowe

* *** *** ***** ****** ****** to ***** ***** ** ***** ********, but ****** **** *********** ** ****** overcharging *** (** ***** ***** ***** you ****** ***** ******** ******), **** any ***** ********** ** **** ****** be ********** ** *** ******** *****. The *********** ** ****** * ******* to ******** ********** *** ******* ** is * ******* *****. ** * go *** **** ***** *** ****** (or *** ***********) **** *** ** going ** ******* **? *'** ***** had **** **** ******* ****** ** do *** ******* *** ********* * bought.

****** *****. ******** ****** ******* *** game ** **** ********.

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Undisclosed Integrator #10
•Sep 05, 2019

*** ***** ********** ********* (***** ** our ******* ******** ****), * ***'* see *** *** ***** ****** **** to ** ***** *** **** **** hiding *** ***** ***********. *** ***** businesses, * ***** *** **** **** wouldn't **** ** **** ** ** met *** ******** ************ **** **** had (*.*. ** *****-**** *********).

**** * *** ** ***** *****, I ****** **** *** ******* ** specify ****** **** ****** ***-*** **. forced ***-***** *******, *** * ****'* care ** ******* *** ***** ** the *******, ***-***** ******, ***. (*** I ******'* **** **** ** *** now ******* *******). ** * **** building * **-***** ********, * ***** probably **** * *** **** ***** the ****** ** ***** *****.

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Lee Brown
•Sep 05, 2019

** * ********** *** **** **** out , ** * ********** *** don't ****, ** * ********** *** want ****** ** **** , ** a ******* *** **** **** *** until ***** ** , **** *** next ****** ***** .

****** ***,

* ** ***** ** ********** *** hell *** ** **** ** *** of ** ******* ********.

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Undisclosed Integrator #11
•Sep 06, 2019

*** *** ****** * ******** ****** with ****** ******* ** *****? * believe **** ******** ** ** *** parts **** **** ****** * ****** or ********.

** * **** ****** * *** transplant * ***** ***** **** ** the ******* *** ******** *** **** on *** ************ ** *** ***********.

* **** ***** **** ***** ** a **** ***** *******.

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John Honovich
•Sep 06, 2019
IPVM
In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #11

** * **** ****** * *** transplant * ***** ***** **** ** the ******* *** ******** *** **** on *** ************ ** *** ***********.

****, *** ** *** ***** ** ABC ******** **** ** *** ***** address *** * * ****, * line ***** ****** "** ***** ** Cameras *** **** ***" *** ********** of ******* **** *** ******** ** a *** ** ** *****?

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Undisclosed Integrator #3
•Sep 06, 2019
In reply to John Honovich

* ***** ** ********* ********** ** the *******, **** *** **** ** best *** **** ** ** ***** , **** ** *****, *** *** been ** ***** , *** ********** i *** ***** *** *****.

*** ******* *** **** *** *** the ****

** **** ******** *** **** **** very **** , *** ******* ** the ******* ******** ** ********** *** there .

** **** ****** *** *******'* **** just ****** **** ****** ** **** install *********.

*** *** ****, *** *** ***** , *** **** ****** *** ( you **** **** **** **** )

**** ***** ** **********, **** ** Contracts , **** ** ****** , And **** ** ( *** *** the *** *** **** ) *******

****** ** ************ ** *********** ********

********** ** ***********

******* ***** ** **** *********** ****** is ******** , *** *** *** schmoe *** ***** *** **** ***** cheep ** ****** **** *** ******

***. *** * *** ******** , Detail ** *********** , *** ***** of ***********

*** **** *** ***** **** **** about ***** , ***** , ***** and ******* **** ******* ( ******* thrives ** **** )

**** , *****, ****

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John Honovich
•Sep 06, 2019
IPVM
In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #3

*** **** *** ***** **** **** about ***** , ***** , ***** and ******* **** ******* ( ******* thrives ** **** )

*** ** *******, **** **** *** the **** *** ***** ** **** you *** ******. *** **** ****** would *** ***** ****** ** ******* that **** **** / ***** **** this?

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Undisclosed Integrator #3
•Sep 06, 2019
In reply to John Honovich

***: **** *** ****** *** **** sense ** **, *** **** ***** worth ******* ***** , *** **** is ***** ** ******* *** *** detailed

* ***** **** *** ******** **** a *** ** *********** ** **** and **** *** ****** ***** , but * ***'* ***** *** ******** really *********** *** ****** ** **** they *** *******.

* **** ****** **** ******** ***** don't **** **** ***** ** **** was ********* ** ** *** ********* and *** ** ********* ** *** best ** ** ******* **** **** really **** ******.

******* *'* *** *** **** ********, but **** **** * ***** ** just ****** ** **** *** ******* and **** *** ****. *** ** tell ** **** ** ****** **** .

**** ** *** *** ********** *** research. *** * **** ***** ** Eng. *** ***********

* ******** ********** *** ** *** deceptive ****** ** *********** , **** the *******, *** **** ********* ** this.

**** ***** **** ******** **** ***** review * ** **** *** ***** to ** *** ********** , ** I ******** *** **** *** ********* checkups, *** ***********

*** : * ****** ********** **** site *** *** ******* ** ***** freely ** *********

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Undisclosed #6
•Sep 06, 2019
In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #3

* ***** **** **** *****.

***** ******** ** *** **** ****.

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Jason Gould
•Sep 10, 2019
In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #11

*****, ***** * **** ** *** Orthopedic *****. *** *** *******, *** surgeon ** ******** #*. *** *** manufacturer ** *** *********** *** *** TYPE ** ******** * ****** *** deal. *** **** ** ********* (*************), the **** ********** ** *** *****, your ********, ********* ****. *** **** of ***** ***** **** *** ** it. ******** ********* **** * ************ and **** **** **** ** ********** the ******* **** *** ****** *** best ****** *** ***. *** *** might ** ********* ** **** *** there ****'* **** ************* ** ****** from ** *** ***** *****.

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Chris Chambers
•Oct 28, 2019
In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #11

**** ******* *** ********, **********, *** replacement *** ******* **** **** ***********. My ****** ** *** *** *** both ******** **** ********* ******, *** I've **** *** *-**** ** ****. It's ****** ******* **** *** ***** want *** *** *** **** *** 1st.

*** **** * ********** *** ********* options, ***** ** * ****** **** is *** **** ******** *** ****** less **** ****. *** *** ***** though, ** *** ****** ** ***** that ** **** ** ** *** research *** *** *** *******:

** ****-******** *** *********** **** *** You?

JG
Jason Gould
•Sep 10, 2019

*** *** *** **********'* *** *****, please **** ***** ****. **** **** for **********, *** **** *****. ** a ***** *** *** **** * routinely *** **** **** ***** ****** for **** ******** ******* ** **** we **** ****** ***. ** ***** across *******, *****, *** **** *** entire ******* **** ** **** ******. At **** ***** *** **** ****** just **** ** **** ****** ** work **** **** *** **** **.

**** ** ***** ****** ***'* ********** is **** *** ***** ** *** one *** *** * ************** ** his ******* ** *** ******* ***** in. ******* ******* ******* ************, ********** requirements, ***. ** *** *** ** people ******* *** *** *******. *** as ** ******* ****** ***'* ******** that **** ************** **** ** *** actually ****** ** *** *******. *** need ** ******* ****.

*********** ***** ** **** *** ** were ****** ** * ****** ******* and **** *** ******** * ******** group **** ********* *** ********** ** design *** ***** ***** *** *******. A ** ******* ****** ******* **** facilities *** ****** *** *****. ** other ***** **** ********* ******* **** outside *******/**********'*. ****** *** **** ******* and ******** ** *** ******* ****. Why *** ****? *** ***'* **** me **'* *** ******* *** ******** is ******* *** ***********.

** *** *** **** ** ** is **** ** ***** *** ***** mom & *** *****, **** *'* sure *** *** **** *** **** don't ****. *** ****** *********, ********** highly *********, **** ****.

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Undisclosed Integrator #3
•Sep 10, 2019
In reply to Jason Gould

*** *** **

** *** ********** * **** *** Job , ** *** ********** * Want *** ***

*** ** *** ******* ******* * don't **** ** ** **** ***. Design, ********* ******* , ** ** bid * *** ** ************* ** matter *** *****, ** ***** ****

** * ****** * **** **** to *** ***** **** **** *** have ******** ** ** ** **** a ************ ** ***** ** ****.

** ** ******** ****** * *** everyday ***** ************ *** *******'* ** all *** ********** *** ***'* *** the **** ( **** ** * commodity **** **** ********* )

** *** *** ********** *** *** his ********* ** *** ********** **** take *** ** *** **** ** Change ****** ( **** ** *** bigger *** ******* *** ****** *** Process ** ***.,******, *** *** ** bid .

**** *** ***** ***** *** **** is ****** , *** ******* *********

***. **********, **** ***** ******** ********'* usually **** ***** ** ******* **** rely ** *** ****** ****** *** even ** **** ******* ***** *** huge ********

****** ** * ********, ** ******** as ** *** ***********, *** ***** of *** ******* **** **** ******* you **** ** ***

**** **** ******* *** ***** ***** are **** ****** **. *** *******'* do **** ** ** ***** **** interest .

*** **** ******* ****** ***** **** in *** *******.

*** ************ ****** ***** ***** ** contract ** ******* , *** ******

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Alfredo Santiago
•Sep 23, 2019
ALFREDO'S TELEPHONE SERVICE

***, ** *** *** ***** ******, lens ****, ***/**, *** ** ** not *** *** *** *****, * think *** *** ********* ****** *** customer **** *** **.

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Damon Hood
•Sep 26, 2019

** ** *** ****, * *** tell *** **** * ****** **** not **** ** **** ** ** specifying * ** *** ****** **** him. ** ** *** ***'* **** me *** *****, ***** *** **** number * **** **** ** ** the **** ******.

******* ** ***** *** ** **** point **** **, ******* * ** usually ******* ** ******* **** ***** I **** *** **** ****** * want.

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Ross Vander Klok
•Sep 26, 2019
IPVMU Certified
In reply to Damon Hood

**** ***** *****! **** ******* **** it ******* *** ***** **** ** are ** *** ******** ***** ** so ********** *** ** **.

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Undisclosed #6
•Sep 26, 2019
In reply to Ross Vander Klok

****** *** ***** **** ***** *** brand ***** ****, ******* *** ***** do ***.

* ******* ***** ***** **** ***** air ****** ** ****, * ***** Neon ***** **** ***.

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Ross Vander Klok
•Sep 26, 2019
IPVMU Certified
In reply to Undisclosed #6

***** *******!

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Undisclosed Integrator #12
•Sep 26, 2019
In reply to Ross Vander Klok

** ***'* ********* **** *** ********** what ***** ** *** **. * prefer ** **** **** *** *****, tell **** * **** ** ** able ** **** *** *** ****** on ****** **** **** **** ***** at *** ****, *** * **** it ** ** ****. * **** let **** *** **** *** ***** experience ** ******* *** *****. *** reason ** **** **** *** **** the ****** **** *** ******* ** desired **** *** **** ** ** held ***********. ************, * **** ** is * *** ********* ** ** to **** **** **** ***** ** best, * *** **** ******* ******** with ****, ******** ************** *** ****, Genetec, *****, ***. *** ** *** end ** *** *** **** *** the **** ***** *** **** *** making ***** ****** *** ** **** work, * ** **** **** ** help ***** *** ******** *** **** us **** ******* ****** ***. ** I *** *** ***** **** ** provide ********* *** ***** * ***** order **** * *********** *** **** our *********** ** ** * **** to ***** **.

****: ****** *** * ***** *** buy ** **** *** *** ******* manufacturer *** ***** ******* ** **** as **** **** ******* *** *********.

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Ross Vander Klok
•Sep 26, 2019
IPVMU Certified
In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #12

****, ****, *** **** ** *** really *** ***** ** **** ***** discussion *****? **** *** ********* ** exactly **** ** *** **** ** do ** ***** ***-*****.

*** *** *** *** ***** ************ you *********, ******* *** **** *** want ** ** ** **** *****, would *** ** ** ******* * quote **** ****** "** ******* *** installation-$XXXX" ** ***** *** ****** ** to ** "** **** ***** *****-** cameras..."?

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Undisclosed Integrator #12
•Sep 26, 2019
In reply to Ross Vander Klok

** ***** ** ** **** ** would *** **** ******* *********** **** that *** *** ******* ************ *** model *********** *** *******, *** ** cost ******* *** ** **** ** know **** ** *** *******.

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Undisclosed Integrator #11
•Sep 26, 2019
In reply to Ross Vander Klok

*** ***** **** * *** ** exception.

** ******** **** ******** * **** seen ***** **** **** ****** *********** based *** *** *********** ************* ****** the ****** ***** ** **** ******.

*** ***** ****’* **** **** ***** or ***, *** **** **** ** clear **** **** *** ** *** to ******** *** *** ****** ******* the ****.

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Undisclosed #6
•Sep 26, 2019
In reply to Ross Vander Klok

* **** ** *** **** ****** - ** ** *** **** - thinks **** **/*** ** ** *** position ** ******* ****** ****** ***** to ********** ***** **** ***** ***** to ** *** (*.*. *** ******** 'experts' *** ***** **** **** ********* costs **** ***** *** ********* ******* who **** ********** ******** - ***** on *** *** ************).

***, *******-*********** *****, ****** ********* ******* has **'* *** ****-*****, * ** not ******* **. * ***** *** users ****** ** **** ** *** whomever **** ****** - *** ******** reason **** ******.

*** ***** *** ***** ********** ** place **** ******** ******** ******* ***** on ****** ****.

*** *** **** *** ** *** of ***** **** ********** ********** ******* and *** ********** **** ** *** a ********* *****.

*******, **** ****** ***** ********* ** integrator **** ********** *** *** *** most ****-********* ******** - ***** ** volume ********* ** ********** ******** **** meet *** ***** ** *** *** - *** *** ******** [* ***** argue *********] ***** ** *** ***-***** personal ***********.

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John Honovich
•Sep 27, 2019
IPVM
In reply to Undisclosed #6

******* *** **** ********** ********

** ******, ***** ** *** ********** of *********** ***** ******** *** '**********' and **** ****** ** ************** ****** in ***** ** *********** ******* ********* qualifies ** '**********'.

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Undisclosed #6
•Sep 27, 2019
In reply to John Honovich

"***** ** *** ********** ** *********** which ******** *** '**********' "

******.

*******, ******* ********** * **** ******** feature (***'* *** **** ***********), ** RFP ****** ****** **** ********* ***** on *** ************** ********* ****** - which *** ***** ** *** *** user ************ ** *********** [****] *** not * ******** *****, **?

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John Honovich
•Sep 27, 2019
IPVM
In reply to Undisclosed #6

*** ****** ****** **** ********* ***** on *** ************** ********* ******

****, ****** **'* **** ** ****** every ************* ** * *** **** can ****** ******* ********** **** ** important.

** *** *** ****, ** *** are *** ******** ******, ****** ****** from ********** *** *********. ** *** other ****, ** *** *** *** detailed *** *.*., ******* **** *** combination **** **** *** ***** ******, it's *********** **** ****'*.

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Undisclosed #6
•Sep 27, 2019
In reply to John Honovich

* ***** **** *** ** ****.

*** *'* ****** ** ********** *** an *** **** ***** ****** * camera ****** ** * '**** ****' without ***** - ** ***** - consulting ******** ******* (***** ***********) ** see ** **** ***** **** **** knowledge/discounts/training ** ** ******* - **********/********** - ****** ******, **** ***** *** RFP ********?

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John Honovich
•Sep 27, 2019
IPVM
In reply to Undisclosed #6

********** ******** ******* (***** ***********)

**** ***** *********** *** *** '******** experts'. ***** *** **** *********** *** are '******** *******', **** *** **** selling ******** **** **** **** *** most ***** ******* ***** *******.

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Undisclosed #6
•Sep 27, 2019
In reply to John Honovich

* *** ***** **** **** *** still ******* **** ** ***** ** better *** *** ******** ** **** the *** **** **** ****** ** the ******* ****** ** ******* ****** choosing * '******'.

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Undisclosed Integrator #12
•Sep 27, 2019
In reply to Undisclosed #6

** ** **** ******* **** *** think. ** ******* * ***** ******* we **** **** *** ********* *** nearing **,*** ******* ** *** *****. We **** * **** ** ********* professionals **** ******* ****** ******* *** cameras, ***, *******, ***********, ******, ***. As * **** ** *** ************** we ***** *** ****** ** *** manufacturer **** ***** ** ** ***** that ** ******* ** ** * failed ****** *** *** ** ******* RMA ******* ** ** **** **** the ***** ********** ** ** *** and **** *******. ****** *** ****** of ****** **** ****** ** ** hold ** ** * ***** ***** of **** ** *** *******, ********, class * *** *, ***. ** that ** *** ******* *** ********* it ** *** **** **** *******. Finally, ** **** ** ***** *********** to ******* ******* *** ** ***** regularly *** ********* *** *** ****, many, **** ****, ** ********* ********* cheap, *** ** * ***** ***** because ** "**** **** *******" *** stuck ******** ** **** *** ** a *** ******, **. $*** ****** cameras ******* "***** ** ******* **** in ***** ** **** ***** ** cheaper" site **** *** ***** *** ***********.

** *** ***** ***** *** *********** would ** ******** ******* ****** **** integrity *** ******** ** ** *** best *** ******** *** ** ** all **** **** ** *** ****** the ****. ********* ** ******* ******, IDS, *** *** ******** ****** *** look ******* ***** ***** ** *** to **** **** ** *** *** being ********, ***********, ** ***** ******** with ********* **** ** *** *** still ******* ***** ** * *****.

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Undisclosed Integrator #3
•Sep 27, 2019
In reply to Undisclosed #6

** *********, ********

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Kyle Folger
•Sep 27, 2019
IPVMU Certified
In reply to Undisclosed #6

* ***** ** ***** ****** ** the **** ** *** ******** ****** in *****. ** ** *** **** already *** *** *** **** ******* as **** ** ** ******** ******, I ***'* ***** * ***** **** ACTi "**********" ** **** ***-**** ******* if *** **** ** *** ****** camera ****'* ** ******* **** ** even ** ** *****. *** **** of ************ *** ***** ***** ** more **** *** **** ** **** the ******.

******* *** *** **** ** ******* that ******** ******* *** ******** ******* but ****** *****'* **** ** ** can't (******* *** ** ******* *********) physically ******* *** *******. **** *** a ******** ****** **** **** ***** great **** **** *******. ** *****'* work *** ********* ******* **** ***** manufacturers. **** ***** ***** ** * primary ****** *** ******* ****.

**** ***** *** ********* ***** **** similar ****** ****** *** ********* ******* functionality. ***** ** ****** ***** ******, if **** **** *** ******** *********, both ***** *** ********* ***** *** they *** ***** *** *** **** provide ******** *********. *** ***** ** that ***** ******* ** ** **** accurate ** **** ********.

*** *** *** ***** *** ****** owners/managers **** **** * ****** ****** and **** ** ***** ***** *** manage *** ****** *** ****** **** to **** *** ******* ** ***** phone. **** *** *****, **** ** those **** ****** ** **** ****, want ** ***** **** ***** ******* and *** ** **** ** ** date ** ******* *** ******** **** technology.

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Undisclosed #6
•Sep 27, 2019
In reply to Kyle Folger

**** *** *****, **** ** ***** that ****** ** **** ****, **** to ***** **** ***** ******* *** try ** **** ** ** **** on ******* *** ******** **** **********.

**** ** *** ******** **** ****.

**** *********** *** ********* **** ******** thanthe ******* security director in corporate America,

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Kyle Folger
•Sep 27, 2019
IPVMU Certified
In reply to Undisclosed #6

*'* *** ****** **** **** **** point ** ****. **** *** ****** conveying **** **** *** ***** *** educated (******* **** **** **** ** from * ********* ** ******* ** experience) *** *** **** * *** more ***** ******* **** ***** ***********. Those *** ***** *** **** * specific ****** **** ****** * ******* brand *** **** ** **** **** it. **** ***** ** *** ******* rate, **** ** ********, ***. ***** are **** ***** *********** **** ***, just ** **** *********, *** **** industry *******. **** ***** ****** ** intrusion ******* **** ****** ** **** dabble ** ****** ******* *** *******.

* **** ***** * *** ******** directors **** **** ***** ******** *** managing ********, *** **** ****** ***** cameras. **** **** *** ** *** them ** ***** *** ***'* **** necessarily *** ******* ****.

**** **** ***** ****, * ***** this **** ***** *** ******* ***** really ****'* * *** ** ****** resources **** *** ** **** ******** and *** **** ******** *** ********, glowing *******. ** *** ****** **** and * *** ******* *** **** information ** ***, ******* **** ************* would ***** *** *** ** *** was ****** ********** ******* *** *** true *** ** **** ***** ******* on **. ****** *** *** ************ material ****** ***** **** ***** *** comparisons *** *** ******* ***** *** worked **** ****** ** ******* ** didn't **** **** *****.

*** ***** ******** **** *** ****** information ** **** **** **** *** Tim ****** *** *** *****************.******. **** * *** ********* ******** from ****** ** ** *******, * wanted ** ******** *** ******** ** resolution. **** ************ ** *** **** were ******* **** *** **** ** go ** ** *** *** ******* less ******* ***** * ** ****** can ******* * ****** *******. * thought **** *** *** ******* ***** at *** ****. * ****'* **** 1 ****** ** ******* * *** wanted * ******* ** ******* * to **** ****** ********** *** ***** keep ****** ******* ******. ***** *** many ***** *********** **** ***** ********* in ** **** **** *** ***** to ****** **** ******* * **** while *** ******** ****** ** ***** they **** *******. **** *** *** the ******** *******, *** *** **** no ******* *** *** **** *** design (********* ****** ******* *** ****) or *** ********* ****'* ******* *******. I **** ****** *** ****** ***** where *** *** ** **** *** shot.

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Undisclosed #6
•Sep 27, 2019
In reply to Kyle Folger

**** *** ***** *** ******** (******* from **** **** ** **** * multitude ** ******* ** **********) *** may **** * *** **** ***** cameras **** ***** ***********.

** ***** ** *** **** **** statement *** *** ** ****.

** ** **** - *** - this **not *** **** in *** ******** ** ******** **** *********** ** *** ****** of ******** ****** ** *** ******** experts.

********* *** *** - *** **** as *********, ****.

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Ross Vander Klok
•Sep 27, 2019
IPVMU Certified
In reply to Undisclosed #6

".... *********** ** *** ****** ** interest ****** ** *** ******** *******."

***** **** **** ***%, *** ****** (if ****) **** ***** **** ** be *** ****. ******* ** **** integrator ******* ***** ******** ******* **** instead ** * ****** ***-****, ***-**** and "********/*********/***/*******" ******** ** **** ** might **, *** **** ***** ***** have ***** ********* **** *** ******.

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Undisclosed Integrator #13
•Oct 07, 2019

******* ********* ***'* **** ***** **** / *****!

***** ** ***** * *** ** don't **** * ******** *** *** ever ***** (** *****) ***** **** and *****. **** ** **** **** told *** **** *** *****... ** would *** **** ******** ** ****.

** ***'* **** **. ** **** NEVER ***** **.

****** ***'* **** ** **** ***** that.

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Undisclosed Integrator #14
•Oct 07, 2019
In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #13

******* ***** **** ****** *** *** Enterprise ** ***. ******** ***** ** medium, * **** ** ********* ** the ***** **** ***'* **** **** the **** ****** **. * ****, I ****. **** *** *** *****.

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #9
•Oct 10, 2019
In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #13

******** * **** *** * ************ and ***** **** ** ***** ******** is *** ***** ******* *** *** products, * ****** *** ******* **** average ********* ***'* **** ** **** about *** ******** ********** **** ** solve ***** ******** *******.

** *** ********* **** * ******* size/type ** ******** *** *******? ** you ** ***** ***** ******** **** ask ** ** *** ***** **** hassle? *** ***** *************** *** *** provide **** ******** **** ******** ****?

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Jay Hobdy
•Oct 10, 2019
IPVMU Certified

* ***** **** ****** ******* ** the ******. ** *** ********, ******* are * ********* ****. ** ** very **** ****** ***** ** **** then *** *** *** ***** *****.

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*** **** **** * ***** **** report *** ******* **** *** **** part #'*.

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Christopher Freeman
•Oct 28, 2019

**** **** **** , *** ******** to **********

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***** ********** *********** *** ******* ****

** **** **** ******* *** *** buddy ** ******* , *** ***** them *** ** **** *** ******

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****** *****

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Dean Kozak
•Oct 28, 2019
In reply to Christopher Freeman

* **** ***** ****** ****** **** and ***** ** * *** *** I **** ****** *** *** ***** capacity ** *** ***.

**** ******** * *** * *** and *** ****** **** ** ** was ******* * *** ***** ****** quality ********* *** ***** * *** not ****** ***** ****/ ***** ....**** functional ******** .

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Undisclosed Integrator #14
•Oct 28, 2019
In reply to Dean Kozak

* ** **** ****, **** *** specs *** *** *** ****. * also ******* ****/*** * *** *** a *** **** * ** ****** when * ** ** ******** *** the ***********.

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