Crazy Guy Uses Access Panels To Mix Poison Gas

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Brian Rhodes
May 11, 2016
IPVMU Certified

Electronics distributor Jameco often runs 'contests' based on creative use of the electronics components they sell. In a recent Security Challenge the company stated:

"We are looking for some new ideas that would scare off a burglar with an electronic device or strategy to deter a theft."

Among the responses was this submission using access controllers on a truck for a really devious (deadly?) alarm:

"Several years ago, I had my truck broken into 3 times. The tools in my truck were personal tools, not supplied by my company, so it was beginning to feel as if I was buying hammer drills and sawzalls for the world! My pickup truck had cab on the back that I had the windows spray-painted to help remove temptation, however that didn’t work either.

I had enough! I mounted an access control reader on the back window (not visible from the outside), and a Honeywell/Northern Computers panel on the inside. I added a stepper relay, along with a 360 motion and glass break detectors. Swipe an access card/keyfob and the system was disarmed. Swipe again and it was armed.

Now for the 'benefit' of the burglar, if the area was violated, an 112db air horn (on the inside of the bed) would be activated. Additionally, if I was near either my home, office, or girlfriend's house, a wireless transmitter would send a signal to a common receiver that I had in all three places. This would give both audio notification in the house/office (as if I couldn't hear the air horn), and activate a dedicated zone on the nearest alarm panel to call the monitoring center.

Lastly, two windshield washer pumps would activate, spraying thru copper tubing. One reservoir contained ammonia, and the other bleach that would cross-spray each other.

All powered by a separate car battery, with a few heavy duty diodes for charging and a relay to keep from discharging back through the truck when not running.

I still have all of my tools to this day!"

In summary; guy rigs up a truck mounted access system that sprays toxic Chloramine gas if thieves try to take his tools.

I don't know about the truth of this or not, but it certainly is technologically possible. Whether you connect an Electric Strike or a poison gas sprayer, all that is needed is conditionally triggered outputs.

Thoughts / comments?

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Undisclosed #1
May 11, 2016
IPVMU Certified

It'd be illegal except for the fact that it's complete bull****.

Any respectable booby trapper could tell you MUST use stainless on your ammonia pump line, else your line will turn into a nasty blue sludge of precipitate...

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Undisclosed #1
May 11, 2016
IPVMU Certified

Just to add, no disrespect intended and point taken; if you can connect it, you can direct it.

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Marty Calhoun
May 11, 2016
IPVMU Certified

Yea, I have some thoughts. I actually did a similar crazy ass thing back in the seventies with tear gas canisters rigged up to an alarm panel at a local Pawn shop. Needless to say FBI panels back in that era of time were one zone and 'had issues' with reliability.

BOOM: False alarm, took (3) days to clear the gas completely out of the place, was a terrible mess.

Have you considered what would happen if it you get a false alarm (it does happen for a host of reasons), never mind spraying on some fool? Is your $ 400 drill worth 10 years "uptown"?

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Brian Rhodes
Oct 01, 2020
IPVMU Certified

This came up in access class today, and I'm bumping it for reference and because it is one of the craziest access applications ever.

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ALBERT COLQUITT
Oct 01, 2020

I think he could have activated a Taser and been just as effective without killing anyone and give them something to remember.

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Jim Elder
Oct 02, 2020
IPVMU Certified

This is a classic case of the "spring gun booby trap" which went badly for the owner . The intruder successfully sued the creator of the trap. There is sooo much wrong with the introductions of chemicals... I would advise you to immediately remove them from the game plan.

Here is a plan.. that involves fart spray or maybe this Bandit Fog would be better then something that would kill .(Side Note: smoke detectors may be a problem if the fog is used inside; also, would not be good if it discharged while driving. Neither would the chemicals).

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Undisclosed End User #6
Oct 07, 2020

Or Pepper Spray?

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Undisclosed Integrator #2
Oct 02, 2020

Magnavolt Lethal Response

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Undisclosed Integrator #3
Oct 03, 2020

The application of potentially lethal force (or at least life-altering) indiscriminately and without immediate supervision like this is good for only one thing - putting YOU in jail. That guy is about as intelligent as the tools he's protecting.

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Undisclosed #4
Oct 03, 2020

it is abundantly clear that the architect of this 'solution' is actually attempting to punish - probably because previous bad guys stole his personal tools.

this is retribution disguised as a commercial protection solution.

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Undisclosed Integrator #5
Oct 06, 2020

How DARE he be not thinking straight after being victimized by thieves! The nerve of some people. Wanting to punish thieves?!! Why on earth would anyone want to do that.

Okay, enough sarcasm for one post. Serious time: Maybe it's long past time to change the laws so that law-abiding citizens aren't in fear of the government punishing them for protecting their property rights. #CitizensBeforeCriminals #CriminalsDontPayTaxesCitizensDo #2ndA #WithoutPropertyRightsWeWouldBeNorthKorea #RejectSocialism

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Daniel Lewkovitz
Oct 07, 2020

I saw a low-tech version of this in South Africa where people would leave a poison filled vodka bottle in the glove compartment of their car for the enjoyment of anyone who stole it.

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Brian Rhodes
Oct 07, 2020
IPVMU Certified

The ole' "TEXAS KOOL-AID" trick...

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Brian Rhodes
Nov 28, 2022
IPVMU Certified

Ethan pointed out this ~$300 Vehicle Pepper Spray system:

NOTICE: This comment has been moved to its own discussion: Stop Carjacking By Shooting Pepper Spray From Your Car?

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