Cops Hope CCTV Audio Catches Thief

When the camera does not collect good images, is audio good enough to ID a suspect?

Police in Texas hope so. Catch this news story:

From the story:

"Floresville Police are hoping someone will be able to identify an armed robber who held up an Exxon gas station. A male suspect wearing an orange hoodie and bandana over his nose and mouth is heard on surveillance camera shouting at the clerk.

He shouts, "Give me all the **** money now!" He continues to make demands before heading out the door.

"Somebody out there is going to be able to identify him from the audio because of the way he speaks," added Detective Ortiz. Ortiz hopes the suspect’s voice will be the clue to catching him."

I totally understand trying to take advantage of all available information to catch a criminal, but this seems to place an unwise / unfair expectation on integrated audio performance of surveillance gear.

How often is audio recording expected of your surveillance systems? Do police often use it/ request it to help investigations?

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** ** ***recall *** ***** **** ******** * ****** ********* ** * ***-** ******, who was not part of the conversation? If you like I can provide cases where this law was used successfully. I didn't see any where the an illegal recording was introduced as evidence over the objection of 2515. But of course that doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

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*** *** ** ****-******, * ***** ****** *** ****** ******** until * **** ** *****. :)

The ******** was could the audio be admissabble.

*** **** ************* '**** **** ******'. *** ********* **** ****** ****only *** argument, i.e. that it was ********** ******* *********** **** **** ******, *** ******** ***** ** admitted.

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*** ****'* **** ***** **** *** ********** **** ** *******, the ****might *** ******* that the theif had a reasonable expectation of privacy when speaking (to anyone besides the attendant). Although I don't agree at all...

*** **** **** * *** **** ****** ** *** ****** the **** ***** **** * ****** ** ********, *** **** it ****** *** ***** *******. *** ******: ******* *** *****'* privacy ****** *** *** ******** ***** ** ** ****** *** trying ** ** *******, ***** ** ** *******!

So *** *** ** *** *****, the evidence is 'most likely admissible' , we just differed (at first) on the reason. :)

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****** ** ***** ** **** ***-******* (******* *****: ** *** seriously ******* ** ***** *** *****)

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***** ***** **** **do, but audio tells what we *****.. ***** ** *** **** *******, ***** ******* ** ******* assaulting ******* ** ***** ** **telling *** I did it? I might be able get some juror sympathy for my actions, '* **** **** ******* **** * ***** **** ** *** done.', *** ** ** ******** **** *****,'* ****** ***** ***, *** ****** ** *** *** ******', **** ***** ** **** ***********, ****.

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**,********* **** *** *********** ******* ***** *** ***** ********* * little:

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*** ***** *** ******** ******* *********** ***** ***********. **** ** careful **** *** *** ** ***** ** * *** ** chips...

******: ******* ***** **** ******* ***** ***** ********** **** **** at *** *** *********. ** ********** ****** *** **** **** the ***** ****** ** ***********, *** *** ***** ****** **** were ** ***** ******** **********...

*** **** ****** *** *****?

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** **** **** *** ***** ******** **** *** ******* **** less ***********, **** ********. ** *** **** ** ****** ******.

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