Can I Use UL Recessed Door Contacts On Fire Rated Doors?

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Brian Rhodes
Oct 28, 2021
IPVMU Certified

Someone asked this in the New Products Show chat, but is worth generally discussing here:

Does anyone use UL listed recessed door contacts on FIRE-rated doors?

** ****** ** *********** ***** ***** what '**-********' **** ** *******.

*****, *** ****** ** **. ************ a **** **** ** *** ******** contacts ** **** ****** *** ******* per **** **, *** ******** ********** allowed ***** ************* ** *****. ************, alterations *** ******* ** ******* ***** hardware, *** ******** *****.

****, *** '** ******' ** * door ******, ** ****** *** ***** of ********/****/**** ****** **** *** **** it *** ** ********* **** * fire ****. *** ** ******/******* ****** by ********, *** **** ********* ***** being ******* ** *** **** ** a **** **** *** ***** *** device ** *********** ** **** *** an *******. ***** ** ***** ****** create * ******, *** ** ** not ********** **** * ****-**** ** fire-door ******.

**** **** ****?

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Undisclosed Integrator #1
Oct 28, 2021

****, *** *** ***! **** *** legally.

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Jason Neubauer
Nov 12, 2021
IPVMU Certified

***** - *** *** **** ** an ******* ** **** * **** compliant **** ***** **** ***** **** like?

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Brian Rhodes
Nov 12, 2021
IPVMU Certified

** *******, **** ***** *** ** made/installed ** **** **** * ******* door. *** ****/*** ******** ** **** resistance *** **** * ****** (* hour ***** *** ******* **** */* hour ******).

**********, * **** *** *******/**** **** types ** ********* ***********. **** *** typically ******** ** ************* ***** ****** when ********/******** **** ******** ** **** ************ ***** ****, and ****** *** ***** ******* **** open.

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Jason Neubauer
Nov 12, 2021
IPVMU Certified

****** *** *** *******. :) * should **** **** **** *****...

**** ***** ******, * ****, **** Secure

******* ******* **** ***** **** ******* (or **** **** ****** ** * fire)?

** ***???

******* - * *** *** *** who ***** ****** ****, ** **** free ** **** ** * **** (free **** ** ****** ****) :)

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Shannon Davis
Nov 12, 2021
IPVMU Certified

*** *** **** ** **** ***** for ** ** * *****.

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Brian Rhodes
Nov 12, 2021
IPVMU Certified

** *******, * '** *****' **** device ** *** ***** ** ** rated ** **** **** ********* ** a ****, ** **** ***'* **** off/break/create ******* ****** **** *********.

******* *** *** ********* ******* **** are ***** ******** ** '********** *****' the **** **** ****, *** **** can ** ********* ******* ********* **** 80 ************* ** * ***** (** notching ******, ***)

*** *** ***** **** *** *** contacts, ***'** ***** ** **** * hour ***** ******** **** ** **** and ****** *********. ** *******, **** are **** ** *** ****** ***** door ********, *** *********** ******* ** the *****.

**, ** **** ** ** **** like * ******* ******* **** *** modify *** **** ****** ****** ** NFPA ** (*** * ***'* ***** of ***), **** *** ********* ** used ** * **** ****.

**** *** ***. *** **** ****** itself ***** ** ** ** **** so ** *****'* **** **** *** during * **** ** ******* ******** holes **** **** *** ******, *** the *** **** ****** ***'* *****.

**** **** ****?

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Shannon Davis
Nov 12, 2021
IPVMU Certified

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Shannon Davis
Nov 12, 2021
IPVMU Certified

**** ** * **** *****. * have ***** **** ********** ****. ** use **** ***** ******* ** **** rated **** ******. *********** ****** ** have * **** **** ***** ******** door ******* *** ** ** * 3 **** ****.

*********** ** ** **** ***** *** an ********* ******** **** ***** ** door ******** ** *********.

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Undisclosed Integrator #1
Nov 13, 2021

**** ***** **** ****** **** * fire **** **

**** ***** **** *** ***** ****** / ******* - ***********.***

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Dave Gideon
Nov 14, 2021
IPVMU Certified

* **** *** (*** **** **** a *****) **** **** ** "***** are ** ****-***** *****, **** ****-***** assemblies."

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Darren Holder
Oct 07, 2022
IPVMU Certified

**** **** **** ** ***** *****. Thanks ********.

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