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Why Is There A Great Disparity Between IP Camera And Smartphone Prices?

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Patrick Mirto
Sep 12, 2019

Does anyone have a great article or answer to this question that i get asked

Why is there such a huge price disparity between cameras, higher end cameras and even phones?

********, ** **** ** *** *********, it ***** ** ***** **** * phone **** * *********, *******, **** connectivity, *** ** **** ********* **** a ******

**** ** *** ******* *** ***********, an * ** ****** *** *** prices **** ****** **** **** ******* on ****, ** ***** * *********** difference ****?

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JH
John Honovich
Sep 12, 2019
IPVM

*******, **** ********! * ***'* **** the ***** **** **** **** ** it's **** ** *******.

***** *** *** **** *********** **** than ** *******. ******* ******* *** the ***** ********** ****** ********** ** 1.5 *******, ****'* ******* *** ** IP *******. *****'* ********* **** **** volume **** ********* ** *** ***** side.

**** *****, ***** **** ** ******* tend ** *** ** *** **** overall ***** ***** ** ***********, **** $100 ** $*,***, ********* ** ******* sets, ***.

*******, ** *** ***** ** ******* should **** **** ** **** ** smartphones?

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Patrick Mirto
Sep 12, 2019

* ** ********** ** ******* *** cameras ****** **** **** ** ****, equipment ** ******* ****** ******* ****** where ** **** **** ** *** even ******** ******.

******* **** * ******** **** ** to ******* * ******* **** ** them *** * ****** * **** that * ***'* **** *** *** answers * **** * ***** **** them.

* **** ** ****, ************, ** there *** ***** ** * ********** camera **** ***** *** **** **, and * ***** **** ** **** specifically **** **** ***, * **** like * ****** **** **** ****** to **** ************* *** *** ** i *** **** ******

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Patrick Mirto
Sep 17, 2019

* **** ****** ** ******* **** i **** ** *** *** ******** is:

"********, ** **** ** *** *********, it ***** ** ***** **** * phone **** * *********, *******, **** connectivity, *** ** **** ********* **** a ******"

*** *** ********* ******* *** ******* set *** *** ***** *** **** you ***, *** *** **** ****** for ***$ **** ****** ********** ******* on ****, ** ******** ** *** the ***** ********

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #1
Sep 12, 2019

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Patrick Mirto
Sep 17, 2019

*****, *** **** ******* ** ** own *****, * ********* ******* ******* that *** ***** *** ***-***$ *****, and * **** **** **** ***** this ******** **** ** * ******** a **** **** ***, *** *** being **** ** **** * **** answer ** **** ***** **** **

*** *** ** * **** ******, i **** ** ** *****, * don't **** ** **** ***** *** question ***

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Brian Karas
Sep 12, 2019
Pelican Zero

*** *** ******* ** ****** ****** to ******* ******* ******?

*********** *** * ******** *******. **** are **** ** ** **** **** an ******** ************ (******** *******), *** with *** *********** **** *** **** will **** * ********** ***** ****** of *** ***** ********* *** *********** revenue. ***** *** ****** **** * dominant ******** *********, *** ***** * or * ******** ******** *********, *** competing **** ** ***** ***** *** also ********** ** ****** *** ********** advancement.

********** ************* **** ****** **** ** a ~* **** *********** *****, *** bring ******** ** ****** ** *** and ****** **** ***** ** **** as ********.

*** ****** **** ** ******* ****** a ***** *** *** **** ** secondary ** **** *** ******* ****** is, *** **** ** ***** ****. But ** *** ****** *** **** the ********** ******, ***** ****** *** engineered *** ** ******** ********* *** case, *** ******* ******* *********** **** most ** *******.

** ***'** ********* *********** ** ** camera ******, *** ***** ** **** try ** ******* ****** ****** ** IP ****** ******, *** * ***'* think **** ****** ***** *** ** make **** *********** *** * ***** comparison. *******, ******* *** **** ****** really ****'* **** *** ***** ** the ********** ********.

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Undisclosed #2
Sep 13, 2019

********** ************* **** ****** **** ** a ~* **** *********** *****, *** bring ******** ** ****** ** *** and ****** **** ***** ** **** as ********.

*** "******" *********** ***** *** *********** used ** ** * ***** (***** upon ******** ******* *** ********* *********), but **** *** **** *********** ** recent ***** -- ** ***** ** the ********* ***** -- **** *** new **** ** "******" *** *********** and "*****-**" ******* **** *** *** there ***. *** ***** ****** ** time *** * ********** ** ** replaced ** *********, *** ***** *** various ******* *** **** *** ***** that *** *** ****** *********** ***** for *********** ** ******* ** *** 21 ******.

** ** *** **, * ***** I ****** ***'* ********** **** ** being *****. ** ********* ***'* ********** how ****** *** **** ********* **** cameras, **** ***** **** * ***** thing ** ** *** ****** ********* that ***** ** ***********. * ***** have ******* **** *** ******** ** true -- * ***** *** ********* saying "****, ** ********** ***** $*,*** and ** *** * **** ****** and *** ***** ***** ***** *** whistles, *** **** ****** ***** $**** and ** **** ** *** ****** -- *** ****** * *** **** for ********* ****'* **** * ******?"

* ***** ****** *** ****** ******** very ******. *** ** *** ******** is *** ** ******* *** * smartphone ** **** ********* **** * camera, **** * ***'* ********** *** or *** **** ** * ******* for *** ******** ************ *** ***'* know **** * ****** ******** ****** be.

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Patrick Mirto
Sep 17, 2019

*** ****** ******** ** **** * was ******* *** ******** ********* **.

* **** ***** **** ***** *** a ****** ***** ** ** ***** compared ** * *****

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Undisclosed #3
Sep 13, 2019

** *** ***** **** *********.... ********* apples ** ******* ** *** * debate **** *** ****** *********** **.

******* ***************** ** ******.

****** *** ************ ******* *** **** phones **** ******* ** ** **** each ***** *** ** *** ****** similar ***** ** **** *** *** be ************ ******** - **** ** both ****** ** **** ****** ********* with ********* ***********.

JW
John Warehime II
Sep 13, 2019

* ***** ** *** *** ****** a ********* ******** ** *** ******** being ***** ***** ** *** *** experiences. *'* ** ******* ** **** what ********** **** ******* *** ****** between *** * ********* ********. ** assumption ***** **** *** ********** ** "they **** ******* * ******" ** they *** ******* ******* ********, ** the ******'* ****. * ***** **** a *** ***** ********: ***'* *** yourself **** **** * ****** ** apples ** *******. *** ** ***'** getting **** ***** ************* **** *** time *****, * ***** ********** **** and ***** ***** **** * ** doing ** ***** ***** ************* ** that *********, *** ****** ******** ** is *'* *****. ** ****** ****** in ***** *** ***** ** ***** come ** ***** ** **** ** is ****** ********* **********, **** **** a ****** ** ******* ******. (*** camera ** ******* ******* ** ******** ridiculous ********** *** **** *******).

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Patrick Mirto
Sep 17, 2019

** * **** **** **** ** the ******** ****, *** * **** try ** *******

*** ***** ******** ***** *****, ** as *******

*** ** * ********** **** ** pull *** ***** ****** ** *** 400-800$ ******, **** *** ** *** additional ********** **** ***** **** *** is ***** ** ** *** *******, and **** *** ****** **** ********** to ** ** ****** **** ***** roughly *** ****, *** * ****** that *** *** **** ******** ****

*** ********** **** ***** **** ************ hard ** *** **** **** ********** manufacturers *** ********* ******* ******* **** have * **** ****** ***** **********, my *** ****** * **** ****** on **

*** ****** **, ** * *** a ******** ***** ** "*** ***'* they **** *** *** ****** ****** on ****** ****, ** **** *** so **** *******", ****** *** ****** to *** **** ** ** ********, what ******** *** ****?"

* ** *** **** * **** answer ** *** ***** ********

**** ****** * *** ***** **, off ****:

****** ******* ** ***** ****** *********, plastics *** ****** **** ** *******, increasing *****

******* **** ** ********* ******** ********** outdoors, ****** **** **** *** ******* an ****** ******* ****, *** **** it ******* ****** **** ***** *** specifically **** ******** ***** ****

******* **** ** **** *** ********** of *** ******* **** **** ** them **********, * ** *** **** if **** ********* ****, * ** not, ** ****, **** ** **** is **** * *************, ** ********* of **** ******** ***** ** *******, but * ****** **** ***** ** if **** ***** ** * *****

* **** **** ****** ******* *** generally ****** ** *** *****, * do *** **** ** ***** ***** increase ****

* ****** ** **** ** ****** had * **** ****** *** ***** types ** ***********, *** ********* **** helps *** *** *** ****** ** the **** ** ******** * ** asking, ****** ******* * ******** **** the ******* *** *** *** **** will *** ********* ******* ******* **** knows *** ** **** ** *****

JH
John Honovich
Sep 17, 2019
IPVM

*** ********** **** ***** **** ************ hard ** *** **** **** ********** manufacturers *** ********* ******* ******* **** have * **** ****** ***** **********, my *** ****** * **** ****** on **

***, *** * ** ****** **** the ******* ****** **** *** **** on ** ******* *** **** ****** and **** ********* **** ******.

****, *******, ** ****** *** ***** performance ***** ** ** **** ****** than ***********.

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Patrick Mirto
Sep 29, 2019

* ***** ****** **** ** ******* to *** *****, *** * *** mention **** ** *** ***** * think ***** ******** ****

**** ** *** ** *** ****** the * ***** ***** ****, *** it ****** *** ** *** **** thing, *****?

** ***** **** ****** ** ***** the ********** ****,* ***** **** ** get *** ** *** ************* ********* opinion ** **.

UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #5
Sep 26, 2019

********* ** *****. ********** ***** ******* are *******. ***** ***** ******** ** millions ** ****** *** ****. **** the ******* ********** ******* **** **** numbers ** **** ***** *****. ** that ******, *** *** ****** ***** costs *** ******* **** **** ****** integrated *************.

UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #4
Sep 26, 2019

****** ****** ** *** **** ***** industry *** **** ***** ***** ** the ******** ********, ***** *** ******* Layers.

*. **** ****** *** * ** be **** **** * * **** contract. **** *** ***-********** ***. (**** is *** **** ***** *********** *********** use. **** ***** *** * **** make ** ***** **** ** *** service ********) ** ****** **** **** phones **** ******** ** **** *** into *** ******** **** *** ***** of * *** *****, **** ******** once *** **** *** ******, **** dont **** * *** ** **** you **** ***** ******* ***** ***** than ****** *** ********* ****. ** think ** *** **** ****** ********** as * **** ****** ** **** you **.

*. **** ******* *** ** *** exspense ** ********* *** ******, *** all *** ********. ** *** ***** went ** ** *** **** ** produce ****. *** **** ***** ******** modified *** *****. *** *** *** $1000 *** **** ***** **** *** life ** *** * **** ********, you **** **** **** ****** ***** now ** ***** *** **** *******, $80 ** $*** *** * ****** line, (**** **** **** *** * discount **** *** ** ****** ***** locking **** ****** **** ******* *********.) So **** ** * ****** **** example. **** / ** ****** = $41.66 *** *****, **** ** **** sell ** ** ****, **** *** have *** ****** **** **** **** and **** **** *** ***** **** on *** * ***** ** *******. $100 *** ***** ***** ** ****** is $****, *** ** *** *** a **** ***** ***** * ***** you *** ********* *** **** *******, if *** ****, *** **** *** service, ***** **** **, **** *** will ***** ** ****** **** $**** per ****.

**** ***** ********* *** * ****** called ****, (******* ******* *** ****) And **** **** ** ** ** the ******* *****. **** **** **** to ** ** **** ** **** can *** ** ***** ***** ***** competitive ** *** ******. **** ********* go **** ***** **** ** **** in *** ****** ******* ***** ******** area ** ************ *** ****'* *** they **** ***********. **** ** **** a ****** **** ****** ****** ******* they **** * ****** **** ******** network.

*. ******** ******* *** * ******** with ** *******. *** *** *** camera **** ** ** *** ****** it ******, ** ****** *** **** annual ******* ******** ***** ** ** additional ***** ** ** ****. ********* the ******** ****** *** ** **** a ****** **** ** ********** **** a ********* / ****** ***** ***** makes **** **** *********.

*. *** ****** ********** ** * phone ** * ******** ****** *** very *********. *** ******* ** * phone *** ***** *** **** **** are **** ***, *** * ******** camera ** *** **** *** ****** family ******. **** * ***** ** a ******* ** *** ***** **** your ***** *** **** ** **** you *** **** ***.

**** ** **** ********** ** ***********, and **** **** ****, ***** ** all ******* ** **** ****** *** the **** ***, *** *** *** blurred ********* *******.

******** ******* *** ******** ** *** need / ****, *** ********* ******* a *** ** ********* ***** ** meet *** *****.

*. * ***** *** ***** ***** if * ******** ***** ** **** why ***** ***** ** $**** *** the ******* **** * ***** *** "Well, **** ***** ** * ***** if *** ***'* *** *** **** monthly *******., ** *** **** **** the ***** **** *** ***** **** or *****?" ***** **** ** ********* being *** *****.

******** ****** **** $**** ***** **** up *****, **** *** ******* **** span * ***** (**** **** **** longer)

**** * ** ****** * **** monthly **** ** ****** ** $** per ***** *** **** ********* ** go **** *** ****** *** *** it.

***** $****, *** **** ** *** 3 *****. $*** *** ***** ******* cost *** * ***** **** *** $41 *** ***** *** * ***** to *** *** *** *****. ***** cost $$**** ******* ******* ****, $$***/*****

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JH
John Honovich
Sep 26, 2019
IPVM

**** *******! *** ***** ** *** on:

******** ******* *** * ******** **** no *******. *** *** *** ****** hook ** ** *** ****** ** breaks, ** ****** *** **** ****** license ******** ***** ** ** ********** money ** ** ****.

* ** ******* ** *** *** the******* / ****** ************ *** ******* ** ***** **'* a ****** ******* ** ****** *** no ******* ***** **** *** ******* describe ** *** **** ** *** industry.

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Undisclosed #3
Sep 26, 2019

"*** ** ******* ***** **** *** rightly ******** ** *** **** ** the ********."

***'* *** ***** **** ******* ** the **** *** ********** ** *** customer ******?

**** *** *****, **'** *** **** the ***** **** ******* ***** ********* with ** ******* ***** ****** - which ********** **** ** ***** ******* having ******* *********** *********** ******.

* *****, ** ***** ** *** large ***** ******** *** ** *** spectrum, **** ******* ****** *** *** known ** ** * ***** **********, while ***** *** *******-***** ******** **** easily ******* *** ** ******* *****, primarily ******* ** *** *****-**** **** due ** ****.

PM
Patrick Mirto
Sep 29, 2019

** * ***** **** ********** **** cell ****** *** * **** ****** is ** ********** ***** *****, ***** you, * **** *** **** ** my "**** ** *******" ****** ****** ask ** **** **** ** ******** again

* ****** *** **** ******* ***** point **** ******* ****, ** ***** for *** ******* **** ******* **** as * ********, ***** *** *** that ** ****.

**** ****** ***** ** **** * am ****** ** ********** ******.

"*. *** ****** ********** ** * phone ** * ******** ****** *** very *********. *** ******* ** * phone *** ***** *** **** **** are **** ***, *** * ******** camera ** *** **** *** ****** family ******. **** * ***** ** a ******* ** *** ***** **** your ***** *** **** ** **** you *** **** ***.

**** ** **** ********** ** ***********, and **** **** ****, ***** ** all ******* ** **** ****** *** the **** ***, *** *** *** blurred ********* *******.

******** ******* *** ******** ** *** need / ****, *** ********* ******* a *** ** ********* ***** ** meet *** *****."

** ***** *** ********** **** *** the ***********?

*** *** ***** ** *** ** a ****** " **** *** **** different", *** ***** ******* ** **** them * ***** ****** ** ************ how **** *** *********

** * *** ** ***** ****** it ***** ******* ******* ***** *******, i ******** ** ** *******:

"**** *** ******* ** ******* **** a *** ** ******** *** ***'* see, **** **** ***, **** *** much ****** ** *** ***** *** to * ****** ***** ******, **** have * **** ******* ****, *** they **** *** *** ********* *** MSRP *** ** *** ***** *** cameras ** ******* ** "----"".

** *** **** ***** * **** more ** ** ** *** ** that's *********

UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #4
Sep 30, 2019

** ******** ** *** ******** *** functions *** **** ******* *********, **** of *** **** ********* *******, **** Analytics. ********* ** *** ****** **** Different ** *************** ****** ** ********** the **** ******** ** *** ********, and **** *** ****** ***** *** live ** ******** **** **** ** be ****** ** ******* *** ******* ratings. ***** ******** **** * **** to ******* *** ****. *** ******* and **** ****** ** ******* ** not **** ** ** ******* ***** things ***** **** ***** ** *** prices ** *** *******. ****, **** IK10, ********* ***** ********, ****** / Outdoor***.*'* **** ******** *** ***** ** something ** *** ** *** ****, but *** ****** **** ** **** are ********* ******** **** ********* **** so * ********** ** ****** *** fair ****** ** ****** ** **** cases.

UI
Undisclosed Integrator #6
Sep 26, 2019

***, **** **. ****** **** * posed *** ******** ***** * ***** ago, *** ********** *** *** **** civil *** * *** **** *********.

******** ****** ****** ********** ****

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Patrick Mirto
Sep 29, 2019

* **** ****** ** **** ****, and *** *** * ********* *** asking *** ********, * ** ***** you *** *** *** ** ******, but ** ***** **** ** *** fundamentally ****** *** **** *****

* ** ***** ** ***** **** question *****, ** *** ** *** mind:

*'* ******* **** *** ******** *** to *** ***** *********** **** **** very **** *** ********** ***** **** them, ******* **** **** ** ****** a ********* ******** ****** **** *** less **********.

*** ******* ***'* **** * ********* DS-2CD2185 ***** ** ** *** (**) IR **** ** ***** ***** **** series. ** **** ** ** ** roughly $*** *** **** ***. ** is ******* ** ** *** ** 4K ********** *** *** * ***** lens. *** ** **** ** ***** and ******** *****.

*** ********** ***'* ******* *** ****** Pixel * ********** ***** ** $*** CAD ** *** ******** **** *** Google **** *****. **'* ******** **** two ******* - * **.*** **** capable ** ******** ** ** ***, has ******* *** ******* ***** *************, and ***** *****, ***** *** ***** camera ** *** *** *** ***** 1080p ** ***.

*** **** ** **** **** *** Pixelalso has AC Wifi, Bluetooth, NFC, LTE, GPS, 4GB RAM, 64GB built in storage, microphones and speakers, light sensors, a barometer, magnetometer, accelerometer, a fingerprint scanner, and a 5 inch AMOLED display. FAR more technology than a dome camera and an equally great amount of engineering to make it all work together.

******** **** **** ******* *** ********* on **/*/*** (** ***** ** ********** is). *** ***** ***'* ******* *** camera ********** ** ******, *** ******* suggests **** ** ******'*. **** **** streams *** ** ********* *** ***** is **** **** ******* ** ********* its ***** ********** ***** **** *** network ************** ** ** *****. *** light *********** ** ***** ********** ******* is **** ********* *******.

** ** *** **** *** **** of *** ********* ****** *** **** its ************ ****** ****, *** **** do *** **** *** *** **********, obviously *** ********** ****. ******* **** are ******** *** ********* ***** *** my ***** ** **** ** ********** device **** ************ **** ******** ********** is *** **** **** **** ********* than *** ***** ** *** *******. With *** ***** *** *** *** even **** ** ** ***** **** smartphone ****** ** ** * **** ******** camera. * *** *** * **** Nexus ********** *** ** ***** ****** for ***** $*** *** *** **'** do ** ** ***...

**** *'* **** ** **** ** if ********** ************* *** ***** **** a ***-***-**** **** ******** ****** *** just * ****** **** ***** *** cost ** * ***** **** ******, how ** ****** ************* ******* *** high **** ** **** ****** *******? Is ** ***** *******? ** ** because **** **** ******* ***** **** they **** ** ***** ******** ******* and ***** ***? ** ** ** because ** ***********-****** ********* (** ****** so **** ******* ** ***)?

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U
Undisclosed #7
Sep 29, 2019
IPVMU Certified

**** *'* **** ** **** ** if ********** ************* *** ***** **** a ***-***-**** **** ******** ****** *** just * ****** **** ***** *** cost ** * ***** **** ******, how ** ****** ************* ******* *** high **** ** **** ****** *******? Is ** ***** *******?

***, ** ** ***** ******. > 10x *** **** ***** ** *********** is * **** ******* ******. *** economies ** ***** ****** ** ********* manufacturing *****, *** ************ ******** ****** explain *** ********** ** *****.

** *********** ******** ***** ** “*** much ***** * ******** ****** **** were ***** ** ********** ********, ******* down *** **** ** *********** ********** for *** ****** ******** **** **’* R&D?”

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UI
Undisclosed Integrator #6
Oct 07, 2019

****** *******, *'* *** **** *** people ***** *** ** ******* *** matter *********** *** ***** **** ******.

* ***** **** ****** ******* **** some ****** ***** **** *** ******, that ***** *** ******** ****** ** smartphones **** *** ************ ******** ** surveillance *******. ******* ***** *'* ********** in ******* * *** **** **********, and **** **** *** ****** ** ubiquitous ** ***********.

******* **** **********, ** ***** ** the **** *** ** *** ****** with *** **** ** ************-***** ************ on **. * ******* ** ****** have ****** ****. ******* *'* ******* to *** **** ****** ***** ***** has ******** ***********. ****** ********** *** many ** ***** ****** *** **** and ****.

UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #8
Oct 08, 2019

*** **** ** ******* * ********** on * ****** ***** *** ***** it ********* **/*/***. *** ** **** going ** **** ***? ***** **** it **** *** *****? *****? *** will ** ** *********? **** * couple ** ****** *********.

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U
Undisclosed #7
Oct 08, 2019
IPVMU Certified

*** **** ** ******* * ********** on * ****** *****...

*** ** “****”?

** *** *****, “****” ***** *** ****

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U
Undisclosed #7
Oct 12, 2019
IPVMU Certified

****** *******:

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