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Axis Edge Storage Duration Estimate?

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Michael Mathieson
Sep 21, 2015

Hi wondering if anyone has some real world experience that would be applicaple here as various calcuators can only give you a figure based on gusteimates. I am looking at putting two Axis M3004 720 P cameras into a mall kiosk situation. 1 would be looking pretty much straight at the till recording at around 10 -15 fps the other an overview of the work area. Till camera we should be able to keep recording pretty much to till activity but overview camera will by dint of it's postioning will be picking up movement pretty much all the time mall is open. Mall is open 9 - 6 3 days a week 9 -9 2 days and 10 - 5.30 1 day with a little bit of activity outside those hours. Was looking at putting a 64 GB card in each camera set on motion detect.

Any suggestions how long I should be able to record on each camera

Thanks

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John Honovich
Sep 21, 2015
IPVM

Michael, use a newer Zipstream enabled camera. It should easily give you twice the storage duration (and probably more) of the M3004 which is quite old and relatively poor quality anyway. As for the M3004 storage on 64GB, you might get around a week, though it depends of now busy the scene is, etc.

See Testing Axis Zipstream and Axis WDR Zipstream Low-Cost M1125 Tested. Zipstream enabled camera list here.

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Ethan Ace
Sep 21, 2015

I'd agree with using a newer camera if possible. The M3004's bitrates run high, often up to 2-3 Mb/s even in decent lighting. They also get very noisy fast when lights drop.

I'd also agree with the assessment of "maybe a week." That sounds about right based on the bitrates I've seen, plus the activity levels I'd expect there.

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Brian Karas
Sep 21, 2015
Pelican Zero

As a rough rule of thumb, every 100Kbps of bitrate will use approximately 1.2GB of data per 24 hours.

Your mall is open 9 hours a day 3 days a week, 12 hours a day 2 days a week and 7.5 hours 1 day, or roughly 58.5 hours per week.

For every 100Kbps of encoding rate you would use about 3GB of storage per week.

A typical 720p camera would probably be around 1.5-2Mbps for an average mall scene. This would give you 45-60GB/week of data if the cameras were recording full time during the hours the mall is open.

Lots of variables here, but a 64GB card sounds about right, assuming that 7-9 days of retention time is sufficient (assuming motion detection recording can cut that 45-60GB/wk down a bit).

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Sep 21, 2015
IPVMU Certified

Agree with Ethan and John about changing the model. This is camera may not be a good choice for edge recording because of its higher than normal bit rate.

From the Bandwidth Guide For Video Surveillance, this panel is relevant:

Mind you this is a well-lit static scene, and both are Axis cameras set at 720p and only 10 FPS with the same Q compression value (28). Yet the 3004 has nearly 3x the bitrate.

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