IPVMU Certified | 04/17/15 01:58pm
Do most major manufacturers have some sort of VIP bash at ISC? Did IDIS have one?
Was the IDIS VIP able to attend?
Trafficware, a CUBIC Company
Avigalon - desperately grasping for attention.
So does Avigilon think that the way to do business is by showcasing women instead of their products?? And is it so easy for men to be "bought" by this kind of presentation? Personally i think I would be insulted... and you know, you're in Vegas. If this is what you're seeking, why go to a manufacturer party? Maybe because it's easier to "tell" the wife that you're going to the manufacturer's party and not out nightclubs??
Update: the Avigilon half naked woman photo has been deleted from Instagram, where it was originally posted. It remains on Twitter via an auto repost from InstaLasVegas.
Update 2: the photo has been restored on Instagram though now the text reference of Avigilon has been removed.
I talked to a manufacturer who wasn't invited to the Avigilon event but happened to wander in. He said he didn't actually even know it was their party until he saw the painted ladies, because that was literally the only Avigilon signage he saw.
It would be very interesting to interview the girls and "hear" their opinions directly. I quite frankly don't think they (the women) could care more. I mean, girls just wanna have fun :) (and extra $$$ by the way doesn't hurt, specially for those with college debts).
And the guys attending the event there OBVIOUSLY will not buy "shitty" stuff (not that I'm saying AVIGILON manufactures bad products, au contraire I think they are pretty good) because of the presence or not of the half-naked women.
Same logic applies to: NOBODY in his right mind will buy mediocre IP cameras with sub-par software from the latest and cheapest Asian OEM in the ISC West chinese section even if they hire Kim Kardashian to pose in bikini in their booth.... at least I wouldn't, don't know about other colleagues : )
IPVMU Certified | 04/19/15 04:22am
I've heard estimates of 2% to 5% of security integrators are female. At that rate that would still translate into 50 women Avigilantes.
Though I suspect limiting that number is the fraternity style commraderie that might be off putting to the fairer sex. It would be interesting to get their take on the cigar club atmosphere of Avigilon. Maybe Avigilon would have to hire a token Chippendale to avoid gender discrimination allegations.
IPVMU Certified | 04/19/15 06:54am
More disturbing party pics have surfaced...
Avigilon VIP Keynote Speaker Paul Blart
Here he is expounding on the some of the reasons users find proprietary systems so 'compelling'.
I have to go anonymous as the partner booth I was working (not my employer) had booth babes.
I was not offended or insulted. However, in my opinion, it casts the products in an outdated light. Maybe it was appropriate back in the day, but not today.
With that said, a few of the ladies actually studied the product, gave good demonstrations, were able to answer basic questions, and deftly handed off other questions. A few of them did. The others said "tee hee" a lot.
All is fun and games in Las Vegas, until Monday morning when the twitter pictures come out...
Luckily, I don't sell or work with Avigilon, but if I did I would seriously reconsider my partnership with them after seeing this. How low do you have to stoop to sell security cameras?
Not as good as it gets for the Secret Service though. They use drug cartels' law enforcement officers as lookouts, tax dollars for prostitute payment and get to sample the wares instead of just looking.
On a professional note, would any of these integrators want to use pictures of this event to show their end user an example of the company culture of the manufacturer they are recommending to protect their premises and its occupants?
IPVMU Certified | 04/20/15 10:38pm
Well, now we know what the need for the high megapixel resolution is really all about. :)
This is a prime example of why we do not do business with a company like Avilgion.
Well, whether we approve of it or not, it served its purpose; it got our attention and we all are talking about it which what the marketing folks got paid to do.... Cheers!
Geez, how dare they have models at their afterparty in Vegas. I think everybody's butt hurt because it's Avigilon. No other brand has so much hatred from the user base for some reason.
If they showed up at my office with half naked models, that would be a different story, but they can do whatever they want at their own private party.
As a man, yes I like to look at pretty women, however it would play no influence on what product I'm going to select, and I highly doubt anyone has ever purchased their product soley because they had models and if they have, shame on them.
I use Godaddy as well, not because their controversial advertisements, but because their service works well and I can get certificates for 1/6 the price of the big names that work just as well.
I personally prefer the current lettering scheme to the smaller less "bold" from the past. Great shot, I especially like the cigar placement. The message is as subtle as the promotion.
Contrary to early beliefs..."any press is good press" it is possible to make stupid public moves which arent helpful in the least.
I am proud to have the knowledge that I have about my field. I have spent years getting to the point of 'expert.' I got that knowledge from reading counless specs, walking countless jobs and enduring countless meetings with customers and manufacturers. I make descisions with my mind and not my emotions or my sexual response mechanism.
For Avigilon to think they can sway me by appealing to the baser instincts is moronic and insulting.
Maybe they make products which are ok and maybe not; however, we do double-digit millions in integrations and as long as this behavior occurs from them, we won't buy their stuff.
I clicked 'agree' and then decided I'm not sure what I was agreeing with. Suffice it to say, I agree that this activity is not appropriate for today's business world. All things have their place; this is not one of them. Disclaimer: I was not present and my opinion is based on the posting.
Avigilon should be repeatedly reminded via email from each of us, that its 2015 not 1960 and there is an ever growing presents of females at all levels of our industry! Thus the misuse of women at trade shows is not needed, wanted and show a real lack of professionalism on the part of Avigilon!
In fact, one would have to wonder aloud why the need for women in such a role in the first place — are sales that bad, — is their development program that slow or is management at Avigilon just that jaded!
I for one now have yet another reason for not recommending their product or seeking to add them to my line of products!
Just a through or two
IPVMU Certified | 04/21/15 03:46pm
John, I know that Team IPVM doesn't publish any Booth Babe metrics per se, but is your sense that the overall BB trend is waxing or waning?
Ok, please enough everyone.
I think we have more than enough points on either side by now. Unless you have new facts to add, let's try not to post anything else.
May I remind you we have numerous new posts including Ethan's in-depth Product / Tech Roundup ISC West 2015, Google / Nest Dealer Program Unveiled At ISC West and Panasonic Free VMS Licenses Program, just to name a few from the last 24 hours.
I am surprised nobody mentioned that Avigilon's VP Marketing is an accomplished female executive. It would be fascinating to learn where she stands on this issue. Perhaps the appearance of these young ladies is answer enough.
My question to Alexander Fernandes is this.... If you were meeting with a female buyer/investor and one of the paid ladies approached the area with avigilon written across her breasts would you feel proud or embarrassed?
As a female in the security industry who fights every day to be seen as an equal, I hate booth babes. It does nothing to sell product and only alienates female customers and employees by objectifying us. I find it insulting and would never condone it within my own company.