Are You Impressed With Avigilon New 16MP H4 Low Light Performance?

Honest biscuits, Matt, I wasn't tryin to rile you none, just thought as a fellow celluloid critic you might get a kick out the 'almost too quiet' bit. ;)

Does seem a little sketchy that there doesn't appear to be any movement...

Begging forgiveness, because I read your comment as meanin that the snap was slyly taken when there actually was no movement, which led to the joke, not that the camera settings might have been deviously 'over optimized'.

Also it is not purely positive it is hesitantly positive if you read my first post and my second post it is clearly disclaimed: "If this is really out of the box not setup scaled down image on a 16mp camera then this is definitely impressive." That statement clarifies the fact that I am impressed with the image if it is "really" out of the box without any setup.

B, yes, your "disclaimer" is clearly repeated in both your first and second posts, as are frankly most of the elements, save for the addition of an 'appeal to imagination':

I can only imagine what the full size image would look like...

although the 'imagination' theme itself is already doubly foreshadowed in the first:

I wonder what it would look like if it weren't taken behind a window at an angle.

I bet it would look better with adjustments.

By this point the full-size, non-obstructed, straight-on, setup adjusted image in your mind's eye is quite different than the original topic-at-hand.

If this substitution was simply a natural and innocent byproduct of exuberance, then I'm sure now you can see why it might come across as apologetic, and therefore invite scrutiny...

As for the "disclaimer" (and its variants):

If this is really out of the box...

It smacks of false skepticism and intentionality and appears at best to be a 'straw herring' of the type seen in late night infomercials. Why? Do you see anyone else on the whole post calling into question whether its 'out of the box'? And yet here you are saying repeatably, in essense: 'Well as long as a trusted senior executive is not lying!". Whether it is a lie or not, as you well know, is unlikely to revealed as falsehood ever, and therefore is unlikely to impeach your statement.

In any case the fact the 'out of the box' can easily be explained by Avigilon's well chosen defaults and the use of 'auto-adjusting' parameters and anything more than that is better ascribed to serendipity.

As for the double-standard accusation, you may make your point quite convincingly by simply quoting another of your posts about Axis or Panasonic that is equally effusive and with equal wanderlust.

I'm not saying it shouldn't be discussed publicly. But I think that promoting people to weigh in with an opinion of the 'impressiveness' of this shot is only encouraging a poor discussion. NOBODY in this thread, including you or I, are in a position to render anything other than an uninformed (read: useless) opinion because we weren’t there and don’t know the settings or scene variables. So the likely result is party line extremism on the voting. Avigilon fans will say they love it, Avigilon haters will say it's not impressive, and a faction of others will rile up unhelpful comments just for the sake of a good old fashioned troll-fest.

Because the image was posted through twitter, it’s already gone through some lossy compression (most likely) and is not a native shot off the camera. Or, maybe it is. Again, we don’t know.

This industry suffers from a real lack of personal-level interaction across the board, especially from manufacturers. Most of the tweets and things we see are from corporate accounts, or just all-out shameless party-line promotion. I’d like to see more individual employees encouraged to have a voice and share their own thoughts and perspective. To make that happen, you do (IMO) need to “go easy” in the beginning. This guy has a total of 92 tweets, I think you could say he is still finding his footing on twitter. A better response, again IMO, would have been to say “Hey, that shot does look pretty good, what’s the details of the scene? Can you post one zoomed in on the really bright area?” Or, to put it another way, assume positive intent until the person proves otherwise. You’ll either coax more good information out of the person, or you’ll teach them that unsubstantiated claims will be questioned and (hopefully) encourage them to post up with more details initially, or pull back on the shameless promotion. You kinda went directly for the hammer on this one. And yes, I realize that if you wanted to you could have used an even larger hammer, that’s not the point.

If this was posted from the Avigilon corporate account as an official statement, I’d more agree with your approach.