Sounds a lot the same, no? Maybe licensing from Dahua, or just doing it on their own since the base technology (surrounding hd analog transmission) does not seem to patented, and probably cannot be since its so similar to old analog.
Maybe a meger could be in the works? Just the superior resultant names alone could justify a high market valuation: The poetic Hikua or the hip Da Vision. :)
I have requested comment from Hikvision and am waiting a response.
Btw, Secuexpress, the Chinese re-seller we recently have been buying Dahua from says this, "As all we know, Dahua has launched HDCVI, the new generation of CCTV camera. Hikvision HDTVI is also coming soon..so stay tuned."
Plus, last month's Hikvision channel partner conference makes reference to HDTVI.
Them's fightin words, TVI better than CVI?
I'm not quite sure what the last two mean, probably not "fully incompatible supply chain from different vendor", but that's what it sounds like.
Don't be confused here, "DVR could mixed up 720P and 1080P signal at the same time", sounds bad, but apparently is a plus. So +2 TVI...
USA Professional third-party chipset vendor. That description started off awsome but quickly went downhill.
Here's a camera spec, some other ones even have vari-focal, so +3 for TVI...
All information is via HI Sharp, here's an intersting statement from their website.
Nelly Security | 06/06/14 03:17pm
Hopefully they (CVI & TVI) will be intercompatible. My guess is they wont, which would be a market killer either for TVI or CVI. CVI is now being sold by many different little manufacturers in China. I assume they may have to pay a licensing fee to Dahua to do it, I dunno. But we really like CVI here. Being the first mover, I bet CVI will win out.
Pro Focus LLC | 06/06/14 03:36pm
VHS vs BETA 2.0?
Is the USA chip producer possibly Texas Instruments?
CVI and TVI hardware won't ever be compatible. VMS manufacturers need to resolve this issue. We use Freedom VMS which is made in Australia and supports all 6 current CCTV technologies being analogue, 960H, IP, HD-SDI, HDCVI and HD-TVI across multiple manufacturer brands.
I should answer "YES"
They really try to compete. I am not sure that our russian market will apply any of them taking into account fail of HD-SDI in Russia.
The performance of Hikvision HD-TVI is so impressive as Dahua CVI, i have samples from both of them. HD-TVI DVRs support: PAL/NTSC, 720p TVI, 1080p TVI and network cameras. My tech team is just waiting who will be first to promote 16ch 1080p 400 fps DVR.
At one hand HD-TVI is to be supported by any of the manufacturer. The biggest chinese manufacturers Hikvision, TVT and Sunell are ready to release conformant products. At the other hand Dahua DVRs in Russia much more popular than others. HD-CVI only disadvantage is its exclusivity from Dahua.
We believe HD-TVI will replace many analog installations. Prices are much lower than Dahua, many options. There is no way Dahua will be able to compete.
Pro Focus LLC | 06/09/14 06:45pm
If Dahua is OEM'ing an 8CH kit via Q-See for $500 retail, Hik better be willing to beat that price level to the integrator, or at least offer a better selection. I don't see signs of either right now.
Pro Focus LLC | 06/10/14 12:45am
John, I agree that the two big Chinese mfgs are here to stay and may end up dominating the bottom to middle. There will still be room for an Axis or Bosch at the top, but some of the others are going to either fade or merge.
I remember as a new member here a little over a year ago asking about testing some Dahua cams and getting the typical "Chinese Junk" resistance. My how the times have changed, eh?
Juan, excellent info! I really appreciate the insight. I am trying to decide if I want to push CVI hard at the low end and make a concerted effort marketing wise. I think it will be a safe choice for now. I don't think Hikvisions alternative is earth shatteringly better.
Today, Hikvision has officially announced HDTVI. It's basically what was expected.
No pricing yet (beyond being 'competitive with analog') and no North American availability until September.