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ADI Sells Direct Via E-Retailers, Should Amazon Buy Them?

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John Bazyk
Oct 25, 2017
Command Corporation • IPVMU Certified

ADI appears to sell through E-commerce company Surveillent, LLC

Surveillent's website boasts 100+ Warehouses across the lower 48 states, 2,000 brands, one billion dollars in inventors and 400,000 products currently selling through eBay, Amazon, Sears, New Egg, Best Buy and Walmart.

When I searched Surveillent I noticed that the part numbers are the same as ADI's, prices on Surveillent seem to be a little over 10% higher.

When I talk to people at ADI, they tell me sales are down across the board, mostly due to fewer projects from the lack of state-funded construction in our area. In my opinion, going e-commerce was a logical next step for ADI; they have a massive inventory and a vast distribution network. I realize there are issues with ADI selling directly to consumers. I do not necessarily it. However, I understand why they're doing it.

Here's my thought. Now that ADI has been "spun off" of Honeywell, why don't they try and get Amazon to buy ADI? ADI can offer some valuable resources that Amazon does not already have and help build their B2B business, namely system design (although ADI isn't the best at it) and regional salespeople.

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Brian Rhodes
Oct 25, 2017
IPVMU Certified

Surveillent is another one of a string of direct resellers on the internet that purchase from ADI and sell direct:

ADI's 'Elves' Selling Direct on Amazon

Buy From B&H, Ship Direct From ADI

They've been around for a number of years using that model.

The question re: if Amazon should buy ADI, do you also mean that ADI should drop the 'sales only to professionals' requirement and sell direct to public?

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John Bazyk
Oct 25, 2017
Command Corporation • IPVMU Certified

do you also mean that ADI should drop the 'sales only to professionals' requirement and sell direct to public?

Not at all, set it up so only businesses who are registered with Amazon as Integrators are able to purchase through Amazon from the ADI line of products. 

The Amazon B2B program works very well for us.

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Josh Penfold
Oct 26, 2017

Amazon will never buy adi, they will just go past them as they do now and source from the manufacturs.  Every distributor in telecom and cctv sells to etailers and drop ships for them. We do the same thing, and with our purchasing volume, other dealers buy from us as we sell cheaper then they can get direct from the distributor.  Also many non industry or sister industry companies buy products from us without having to create accounts and all that hassle from disty.

 

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Undisclosed Integrator #1
Oct 26, 2017

ADI's revenue is way down because the average ticket price for a camera being bought now is what? $100-150 when previously it was $350-500 a few years back. They just cannot scale the unit volume to make up for the decrease in ticket price. Just because cameras are cheaper doesn't mean customers are suddenly doubling how many they are buying. The areas of coverage haven't changed and a lot of the SMB businesses are becoming more virtual and nimble rather than sticking as much capital in expensive RE to protect. Their own Wbox brand probably isn't helping either when the cost of Wbox parts are often times 50-100% less than a traditional manufacturer. They're slitting their own throat.

The second issue is that Honeywell intrusion is in the toilet this year by double digits. We cover several states and several metros and the recurring theme we have seen is that integrators are winning at the top of the food chain selling against legacy Lenel with the other mercury partners, whether that's Pro-Watch/RS2/S2/Avigilon/Whatever and the lower/middle portion of the commercial intrusion/access control market is being gobbled up by DMP. The issues with the camera market have already been discussed here so it's sort of beating a dead horse.

Fire Alarm is relatively unchanged but it's the least innovative product out there and likely won't change anytime soon unless code/laws change significantly.

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