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Ireland National Children's Hospital Chooses Hikvision End-to-End With Facial Recognition

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Undisclosed Integrator #1
Dec 05, 2019

** * ***** ** ** ********* an ***** **********?

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Alon Brown
Dec 05, 2019

* ******* ********* ******* *** ** Israel, *** ***** *** ***** *** shelters ******* ** *******, **** *** have **********...

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John Honovich
Dec 06, 2019
IPVM

***** **********?

****'* ***** ** ***** *********. ***** CTO,**** *********, *** * *** ** ***** research ** **** *****'* ********** *******,*******. **********: ******** *******, **.

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #4
Dec 06, 2019

******* ** ** ******** ******* ***** is **** ** *** **, *** Ireland.

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UI
Undisclosed Integrator #9
Dec 10, 2019

***** *** *** ***** *** ** the *** ** * **** **** story….

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John Honovich
Dec 10, 2019
IPVM

***** *** *** ***** *** ** the *** ** * **** **** story….

*** ***** ** ****? * **** a ******* ****** ******* *** ** Ireland, ******* ** ******** *******. **'* a *******, ***** *** *********, *** it's ********** ** *** '*****' **** that *** **** * **** ***** newspapers ****** ******* *** *** **.

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Tom McVey
Dec 10, 2019
IPVMU Certified

***** ** *** **** ** ********** on *** ****** ** *******?

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Undisclosed #2
Dec 05, 2019
IPVMU Certified

It ** ********* ** ********** ** ****** **** ******* ****** *********** *** ** * ********** *******...

******* **. ******* ** ****-**** *********** in *******, ***** ************ ********** ***** *******:

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #3
Dec 05, 2019

****....***** ***** ** * **** *** facial *********** ** ******* ****** **********.

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David Johnson
Dec 05, 2019

"difficult ** ********** ** ****** **** ******* ****** *********** *** ** * ********** *******, ** *** ** ***** ** ***********"

The *********** ** **** - *********** ******** ** ***** ******** ***** ** *** **** ** *** ******** ***?

It ***** **** ********* ****** *********** ** * *******.

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #4
Dec 08, 2019

** ********** ***** ** ** * system ********** ** **** **** *** cameras *'* ***, ** ***** *** make *** * **** *** ********* control **** ***********.

UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #5
Dec 06, 2019

* **** ****** ********* ***** **** rec. ********* *** **** ********** *** so *** *** *********, ********, *** visitors. ********* *** ***** **** *** to ** ***** ** ****** *** have ****** ******** ** *** ****. This ******** *********, ******, ***.

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #4
Dec 06, 2019

*** *** ** * ******* ******* for *******; *** **** ****** ******** many ************ ** *** ****** ***** and **** *********** ******* ** ***** hands ******** ** *** ******. ** they **** **** **** ****** ** the **** ********** *** ******* *** now ***** ***. * **** **** various ********* **** ********* *** **** which **** ***** ** ********* *** Chinese ****** *** ** *** *** it *** *** **** ** ****** as **** ***** ** ********. ** the **** *** ************* *** *** CCTV ****** *** ******** ********* ****'* even **** *** ******** **** ***** match *** ************, *** **** ***** becomes *** *** ****** ***** ************ were ****** ********* *****.

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John Honovich
Dec 06, 2019
IPVM

** *** **** *** ************* *** the **** ****** *** ********

** *** **** * **** ** the ******** ************* *** ***** ***** with **? ** ** ***** ******@****.***/ *******@****.***

UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #7
Dec 09, 2019

** **** *** ***** ******** *** when *********** *** ******** **** *** large *&* **** *** ******** *** specifications ***** *********** *** ******* ******* the ********** *** **** ****/ ************* with * ********** ***********/ ************. ** the **** ** *** ***, *** rumors ***** ******* * *** *********** being ********* **** *** ******** **********.

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Undisclosed #8
Dec 09, 2019

** ******* ** ** **** *** original ******* **** ********* *** *** included ** *** ******** *************. ****** like ** *** **** **** ***** engineered **** *** ******* ** * 'connected' *********** ** ********** (*******). ****** way ** ***** ** *********** ** find *** *** **** ****** **** into **** *******.

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UI
Undisclosed Integrator #6
Dec 09, 2019

*****, **** ** *** ** ****. An ********** ********** ***** ******** ** an ********** *********** ***** ******** ** a ***** ****** **** * ******* that ****** **** * ****! ****** a **** *** ***** *&* ************* job ** *****.

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Undisclosed #8
Dec 09, 2019

******, ****** ********* *** ******** ****** VE, **** *** ********** ******* *** very ****** *** ** *** *** included ** *** *************.

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #4
Dec 09, 2019

*** ************* ****'* ** ***** ****, although ** **** *** *** ****** with *** **** *** *** **** water ****** *******. ***** ***** ** the ***, *** *** ******** ** the *** ** ******* **** *** that ******. *** ************* ***** *** features ***** * ********* **** ******** could *** ******* ** *** **** and * ****** ***** ** ** would ** **** ** ** ** now, * **** **** *** ****.

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #7
Dec 09, 2019

*******, **** ****** ******** ** *** original ************* *** *** **** * video ************ *********** ** *** ******** on * ***-*-*** *** ********?

***, ***** ***. ***'* ******* **** on ********, **** **** ** ***** aspects **** ****'* ******** ******* ** a ****. ***** *******...

JH
John Honovich
Dec 09, 2019
IPVM

***, ***** ***. ***'* ******* **** on ********, **** **** ** ***** aspects **** ****'* ******** ******* ** a ****. ***** *******...

**** ** *** *** / *** side,************ ****** *** *** ******* ******** to **-****-*** ***** ********* **** ********* and *******. * **** *** ******** the ******* ** *** ******** **** but **** ** *********** * ****, more ** **** *******.

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UI
Undisclosed Integrator #9
Dec 10, 2019

***** ** * **** ******** ********* of ******* *** ******* ** ******* cost. **** ******* *** ********* ******* on * ********** ****, ** *** tax ****** **** ** ****** ******** at ***** ** ****** ******* ******** than ** **** ********* ****** **** does ******* *** **** ***. ****** there ** * ***** ******** ******* the *** ** ********* ** *** grounds ** ******** ******* ********, ********* everyone *** ***** ** **** *** same ***** "**** ** *** **** of ****** ***** *** *** ** just * ********** ****". *** ** may **** * ********* **** ** it - *** ** **** ******* is ** *****, *** **** **** to **** ** ** ***********.

UI
Undisclosed Integrator #6
Dec 10, 2019

* ***** **** *** **** ** the ******* ** *** **** ***** at * ***** ***** **** ***** is ** ***** *** ***** ***** the ****. *** *** ****** ** the **** ***** ******, ** ***. For *** ***** ****** ********* **** a ******* **** ** ****** ** be ******** *** ************ ******* *** lifecycle (******** ** ***** ****** * significant *****) *** **** ** **** an **** ******** ***. **** ******* in ** ****** **** **** *** 20 **** *******? *** **** *** Bosch ** **** ** ******** **** for **** ******? **** ** * camera ** ******** ** ****** **** year **** **** *** ********** ** feature **** **** ***** **** ****, can **** *** **?

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UI
Undisclosed Integrator #9
Dec 10, 2019

****'* * **** *******. *** **'* really **** ** ***** **** **** is ******** ** *** ***. ********* IVMS ** *** *****, *** ***** centrals **** *** **** ****** - but * **** *** **** ************* improved. ***** ** ** ******** **** against *** **** ** ******* - in **** **** *** **** *** plug ** *********** **** **** ********* camera ************, ****** ******* ******** *** an *** ** *** ********. *** hospital ******** *********** ****** ********* **** systems **** **** *** ******* ******* generation, ** * ***** ********** **/* manned ******* **** ******* ***** ********** EACS/IDS/CCTV/Intercom ***....

** ** ****** ** ****** *** courses - ** *** ****** - fitness *** *******.

* ***** **** ** *** ******, based ** ** ********** ** *** UK *********, *** ******* ** **** although ****** *********** *** **** **** sold *** '******-**', *** ******* ** the ********* ** **** ** ** unlikely ** ** ********. *** ** 1 ******* ** ****** **** ** AI *'** **** *** ** ********** what *** ******** ********* ***.

*** ***** *** ******. *** ***** hospital ******* ** ********* **** ****** (nearly ****** *** ******** **** ****) and *******, ********** ***** ********* **** any ***** ********** ** * ******* of ****** *** * ********** ***** of *********.

** * ********* *****, *** *** usually ** *** ******* **** (***** bleeding ****!) ** ********** ******* - so *** ****** ** ***** ******** anything *** **** ***** **** *** are *** **** (******** *** ***** tag ***** **). ** * *** - ** ** *** ** *** solution ** * ******* ***** *** costs *** *** ** ******* - this ***** ** ******** ******* ******** and **** ** ***** **** * performance ************* *** ***** *********** - like **% ** **** ******* ** the **.

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #4
Dec 10, 2019

************* *** '******* ****' ********** *** been ***** **** ** **** **** many ****** ******* **** ***** ******** and ******* ** **** ** *** Chinese ***** ********** ***** ** *********. Then ** ****** ***** ** *** political **** ** ****** **** *** human ****** ******** **** ** ******** and *********'* ************ *****. *** ********* you **** ** *** ******** ** as *** ***** **********.

*** ** *** '******* ****' ********** is ** ****** ***** ********* **** good ** ** ** * ***** time. **** ******* *** **** *** pin ** ** *********** *** **** normally ** ** *** * **** good ******.

***** *********** ** * *** ***** and ******** ***** **** ** ******** the ****** ***** ** *** ****** possible ***** ****** **** ********** **** it ***** ** ************* *** ***** leaves *** ***** **** ******* **** are *** *** *** *******, ****'* my **********. ******* **** ** **** to **** ***** ** * ******* that *** **** **** **** * Billion **** **** ****** ** **********. This ** *** ***** **** *********** maximizing ***** *******, *** ********* ****** on *** *** ** ******* ****. Cutting *** **** **** *** ** the **** **** **** ** **********...

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #4
Dec 10, 2019

***'* *** ****** *** ***** ******** issues ***** **** ***** **** ****** the ******** ** ******** **** ***********. Issues **** **** ****** ** ********* for * **** **** **** ***** it *** **** ***** **** **** were ***** **** *** ** ***** admitting ** ****. **** **** *** to **** ****** ******* *** ***** PR ****** ****** ** ****** *** fall ***. ** *** ** **** the **** **** *** ***** *** expelled **** ***** ****** ****** ** taken ** ** ************* ** ****. A ****** ***** ** ******* ** buy *** *** ** *** ** deemed ** '** *** **** *****' compared ** * **** ********* ******* but **** ** *** **** ** long **** ********* ** *** ***. Buy ***** *** ***** ****** ********* but **** ************* ** *** ******** know *****'* * ***** ** **** as ****. ***** **** ** ********* over **** ** **** ** ********* should *** **** ***** ** *** decision ****** ** *** ****** **** 1000 *******.

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JH
John Honovich
Dec 08, 2019
IPVM

******: ******'******* *** *** **** ****** ** The ****** *****:

***** ****** **** *** ************ *** much ** **** *** ** ********* gives ** * ******* ***** ******** inside ******* *** *** **.

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #7
Dec 09, 2019

*** ******** **** (*** ******* ******** newspaper ** *******) **** ********* ******* article ** ***** ******* ****** ********* in ******* *** **********.

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #4
Dec 08, 2019

***** **** ** ******* **** ****** and ***** ** **** ******* ** it ***** ***** ******* **** ******. Some **** ********* *** ***** ******* costs ** ** ***** ** * Billion ****, *** * ******* **** for * ********'* ********. **** *** an ****** ****** **** * ********** of *.* *******, ********** **********. ******* one ** ***** ******** ***** *** government **** ***** *** *** *** ball *** *** ************ *** ****. This ** *** **** ********** **** recently ******* * ******* ***** * Million **** *** ** ** **** back ** ** *** *** *** in ** *** ******** ** *** meant ** ** **. **** *********** are ******* ******** ** **** ******** out ** ***** ***** *** *** to ******* ******** ***** ******* ** cutting ******* ********* ****.

*** **** ****** ******* ** *** beyond * **** *** *** ****** victim ** *** ****** **** ** the ******, * **** ** ***** we **** **** **** ** *******.

* **** *********** **** ****** ********** of, ***** ** *** **** *****, non ***** ********* ********* ** ** all **** *****.

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UI
Undisclosed Integrator #6
Dec 09, 2019

**** *** ** ***** *** ***** of *** ****** ** ****** ** general. *** **** * '**** ***' building ** ******** ************ **** ** end ** *** *** **** **** solution. * ***** *** * ******* of **** **** *** ************ ***** be ********* **** ***** ** **** cameras ********* ** * ********* ** Genetec *** **** ******** (*** - high *** ******* *** ********** ***). I'd ****** **** ****** ** ** the *** - **** ****** ***** connected ** ******** ***'*. * ****** what ******* *** ******* *** ***'* are ********* ** ******** ** ********** solution **** ***** (******* ** *** It **** *** ****** ** ** with *** ******** ****) ** **** they **** *** ******** ******** ** can **** ********* **********? ** ***** make ******** ***** ******* *********?

*** ** *** ****** *********** ** a *** *****, ********* ********* *** sensative *** ** *** **** * solution **** *** ******* ** ****** faces **** * ***** ********* *** example **** **** ** ** *** thing (* **** **** ***** **** agree **** ** *******!).

**** ** ********* *** ** ** how *** ***********/**** ** ******* ** the ****** ******. *** *** ****** to *** ******? **** ** *** process *** ********** **** ** ***** parties ** *** ******? **** ** the **** ********* ******? *** *** servers ****** *** ********* ** * secure ***********? **** ** *** ******* for ** ******** ** ********** ** access **** ****** ****? ** ***** remote ****** ** *** *******\*******? *** has ****** ******? ** ** ******?

******* ********* **** ** ********* **** the ** ******** *** **** *** years. ****** **** *********** ** *** top *** **** ** ***** *** governments (*** ******* * ****). **** sensative **** ** ******* ** *********** designers *** ********* *** ****** *** happen, ***** **** **** **** ******** over *** *****.

* **** *** ** **** * security ********** ** ********** ******** ********** that *** **** *** ********* **** how ** ****** *** ******* ********* data **** **** ********* ** ****** recegnition *******. *** ***** *** * system **** **** ******* ***** *********** team ***** **** **, *** *********** teams *** ***** '********' ** *** manufacturers *** ** ** ********** **** of **** *** *** ****** *** curve.

** ***** ** ***** *** ******** has ****** * ****** ***** *** with ******* ********** *** ********* ** practices **** **** ******* ** *** IT ***** *** *****. **** ** maybe **** ** * ******** **** or * ***** *** *** ********* in ********* *** **********\******** ******** *** also.

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U
Undisclosed #8
Dec 09, 2019

** ******* ********* *** *** **** been ** *** ******** ************* ** was ********* *****. ********* ** *** probably **'* **** *** ******* ** others. **, ********** (*******), ***/** ********* distributor *** ******** *** ********.

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Jon Dillabaugh
Dec 09, 2019
Pro Focus LLC

“* **********that ********* ** ** **** * ****** ***** ******* ** *** ******* **********.“

* ******* *** ******* ***********’ ***** was **%? *** **** *******?

JH
John Honovich
Dec 09, 2019
IPVM

**** ***** ** **** *** ******* Parliment ****** ** *** ****. **, it's *** '****** *****', ********** ********** ** *** *********** *********** of *********.

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Charles Rollet
Dec 11, 2019

******: *** ***** *** *** **** covered ** ******** *****/** **********, *********:

**** *******, *******'* **** ***** ********* organization, ******** ******* *** ***** ********* (****),****** * ****** **************** *** *** ** **** *** at *** ***:

*** *** ********’* ******** *********** **** surveillance ********** *** ******** ********* ******* care ***** **incredibly ********. Children are afforded enhanced personal data protections under the law. Deploying this tech in this manner would run afoul of those protections. It’s expensive, **********, **************, *** ** **** *********, ****** ********. [emphasis added]

*** **** **** ****** *** *********'* human ****** ***** ******:

** ******* ********’* ******, ********* ********’*, the ***** ****** *** ******* ***** face ************ ******* ** ********* ** the ***** ********, ***certainly *** ** *********** **** ******* ************ ********* **** ************* ****** ***** *******. A data protection impact assessment would demonstrate the risks. Has the New Children’s Hospital conducted one?

*******'* **** *********, *** ***, **** reacted ** **** ****,******* *** ***** ************ * **** ** "****** ** be *********" *** **** * ****:

** ***** **** ****** ****conducting * **** ********** ****** ********** ** ****** ** ** ********* in these cases, given that the processing would possibly involve new technologies, children’s data, and special category data as defined in Article 9 of the GDPR as well as large scale processing in a publicly accessible area.

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JH
John Honovich
Dec 15, 2019
IPVM

******:*** ****** ***** *** * ********** ******** ******* *** ***** ******************:

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #4
Dec 15, 2019

** ** *** ****** ******** ***. As **** *********** *** ***** **** of *** *************, ******** *** * good ******, ** **** **** **** thrown ** ** *** *** ** someone ** '* **** ****' ******* giving *** ********** **** ******* *** probably ***** **** ***** *** **** making *** ********* **** *** ** to ***** **** ****'* ***** *** what ***'* ** *******.

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JH
John Honovich
Jan 16, 2020
IPVM

******: **** ***** ** *** ******* a ****** ****** ** **** ******** in *******, **** *** ***** ***** saying:************* ******* ****** ** ********’* ******** ‘to ******* ****** ***** *****’, *****:

************* ****** *********** ********** ** ***** installed ** *** *** ******** ********’* hospital ** ***** ** ******* ****** being ********, ***** *********** ** ****** has **** ****....

***í** ******** **** *** ********’* **** system *** * *****-** ******** ** control ****** ** *** ** ****** recognition **********, *** **** ** ******** had *** **** **** ** *** such **********.

**** ** **** ********* ***** *** difficult ** **********.

***,*** ********* ********* **** ****** *** facial ******************* ****** ******* *** *** ******** on **********. ********* *** ***** ******** designed *** ****** *********** ****** ******* (i.e., **** ****** ******** ***** **** to ** ******* **) *** **** is *** *** ******* ******* *** that.

********, **** **** **** **** ************* attempt ** ***** ** ****** **** snatched ** *** ****** ***** *** snatching ** ******* ** *** *********.

********** **** **** '**** *********' *** strong ********* ****** *** *** ******* is **** **** **** ****** *** what **** *** ****** ** ** here ** *** ***** **** ****-*********.

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Terrence Harless
Jan 16, 2020

*** ******* ********** ********* * ****** jump *** * **** ** **** a **** **** ***** *****?

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #4
Jan 16, 2020

**** ***** *** *** **** ****** involved ** **** ******* *** **** all ********* ***** ****'* *********** ******** and **** *** **** ** ***** to ** *** **** ****** ** by **** **** **** ****/****. ** kit *** **** ****** ** ******* yet ** ** **** ** ******* and * *** *** ****** ***** that **** **** ******** ****** ******* soon.

***** *** ********* ****** ** ** Ireland ** ******** *** *** * think ** ***** *** **** ******* after ****. ***** ** ******* **** significant **** **** **** *********** *** as ** **** ******* ***** ****** and *************.

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Charles Rollet
May 20, 2020

******: ******** *** ******** *******, *** Dublin **** ********** ************* ** *** ******** **** ********* cameras ** * ****** ***** **** "conventional **** *******" ********** ***** ****** ******* ************* *** ******, ******* *** **** that ** *** ********* ** ********* DeepInMind *** (***** ** ******* ** face ***.)

* *** *************** ******** ****** *** ******** ******** ** *****'* **** ** *** Hikvision ******* ******** ****, ******:

********* ******* **** *** ********* ** any ***** ********, **** ************ **** cameras. *** **** *** ******* ** use ********* ******* [** *** ***** location]

*** ** *******'* **** ***** ********* organizations, ******** ******* *** ***** *********,*********** *********'* ******* *** "**** ** China's **-********* *****" (****** *** ********) *** ***** *** ******** ********'* Hospital ****** *** ***'* ****:

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John Honovich
Feb 23, 2023
IPVM

*** ******* ******* ******* ** *** scrutiny ** ********* ****:******* **** *** ** ******* **** for *** ********’* ******** - ***********.**

********’* ****** ******* (***) *** ********* to *********************** ******* ************ ** *********, *** Chinese *****-****** ******* **** *** ***** accusations ******* *** ********** ** ***** rights ******, **** **** ****** *** the *** ********.

*** **** ********* ** *** ****** recognition ********** (***) ******** ** **** of *** ********’* **** ****** *** been *******. *** *** ***** ******* for ***** ********* (****) **** *** procurement ** ********* ************ ******* *** installation ** *** ******** ** *** site ** ** *****’* ******** ** south *****-**** ****** *** * “*********** cause *** *******”.

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