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Best / Worst VMS Manufacturer Video Exporting Shootout: Which Criteria To Test On?

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Sean Patton
Aug 31, 2018

We are currently testing multiple VMSes Video Exporting features and functions, and are evaluating what are the best features or capabilities to base our evaluation on. This is just for exporting video out of the VMS, not for searching for video.

The parameters / criteria we are starting out with are:

  • How to select video to export (right click, sidebar pane/menu, drop down menu): Worst: unlabeled icon/right click only. Best: Multiple options clearly labeled
  • Single camera export versus Multicamera: worst: single only. Better: 2 - 4 (2x2 layout), Best: 4-16, over 16 is cumbersome and unnecessary from a practical operation
  • Timeline-length adjustment: Worst - system doesn't confirm the start and stop time of the video being exported. Better - start/stop time is confirmed, but can't be adjusted. Best - fine tune adjust the timeline after pressing the export
  • Maximum export length of a single file: Worst: 1 hour, Better: 24 hours, Best: over 24 hours/no limit
  • Number of File Format Choices: Worst: 1 open (asf/mpeg4), Better: 2+ open formats, Best: 2+ open formats and proprietary
  • Size of export - Worst: largest export with video player  Best: smallest export with video player
  • Proprietary Video Player: Worst: none, Better: single video playback and/or no digital ptz, no data transfer (bookmarks, etc), Best: multiple video playback, digital ptz, bookmarks/notes transferred
  • Export File Management: Worst: no manager, Better - manager with no functionality (just a glorified Windows explorer window), Best - manager with email/printing/delete/sharing functions
  • Ease of playing back exported video including from multiple cameras simultaneously: Worst: multiple application windows needed. Best: plays back in a single application window, with synchronous or asynchronous playback
  • Watermarking / encryption - Worst: no encryption/digital watermarking, Best: encryption and digital watermark

What other criteria or aspects should we be considering for our evaluation? Let us know in the comments.

Thanks!

MM
Michael Miller
Aug 31, 2018

Would be nice to see which VMS solutions predict the size of the export BEFORE you start the export process. 

 

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Sean Patton
Aug 31, 2018

That's an interesting point, I know Milestone and Exacq give you that information, I am not sure about other systems but will note that as a useful feature.

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Eric Olson
Aug 31, 2018

Would you consider the idea of exporting video related to an alarm a feature to test?

This would be a one click type export of alarm video, versus needing to add in the camera, start time, duration, etc.

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Sean Patton
Aug 31, 2018

We will definitely consider that.

UI
Undisclosed Integrator #1
Aug 31, 2018

Geovision as antiquated as it is, seems to have the best and quickest export time and size.

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Michael Miller
Aug 31, 2018

Indigovision is the fastest I have seen when it comes to exporting video.  Specificity the time it takes to move the video not setup the export. 

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #2
Aug 31, 2018

Export standardization - ability to have custom export options (e.g., export location, format, encryption) pre-defined / default. Worst - no custom defaults, Better - one level custom defaults, Best - custom defaults per user / active directory group

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #2
Aug 31, 2018

Privacy masking - export-specific privacy masks. Worst - no masks, Better - "black box" masking, Best - export blurring 

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #2
Aug 31, 2018

Differientiated export time periods - not just exporting multiple cameras, but export different time periods on the same or different cameras as part of one package. 

UE
Undisclosed End User #3
Aug 31, 2018

disregard last post

UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #2
Aug 31, 2018

Audio export - exporting audio with video. Worst - no audio. Better - One-way (microphone). Best - Two-way audio (mic and speaker).

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #4
Aug 31, 2018

Get a feel for how much hardware resource is needed to perform these exports and if any can be boosted by the use of GPU hardware.

CPU, Memory and GPU come to mind. 

Perhaps even a horse race where the same cam video taken into the different VMS is exported the same way to see which one needed the most resource and how long it took.

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Luis Carmona
Aug 31, 2018
Geutebruck USA • IPVMU Certified

1. Password protect the export?

2. Is the player program for proprietary export files a standalone EXE or does it need to go through an installation process? (Lawyers and law enforcement do not like having to run an installer for players on their computers.)

3. Sometimes when exporting as AVI or MP4, the video file still won't playback in the native Windows or Mac video player, you have to download VLC Player or something similar. Better is playing back in the Windows (Windows Media Player) and Mac native players.

4. Event information and bounding boxes meta data exported with the video?

5. Can the export process be minimized and the client interface still be run, or does it lockout the client program while it is exporting.

6. If the export is interrupted, will the file that was written still be playable, or is the file corrupted and non-playable unless the export finishes successfully. (It sucks exporting a hundred gigs of data and it messes up near the end, and you can't pick up where the last export left off but instead have to start over.)

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Andile Radebe
Sep 01, 2018

Once exported, a capability to verify if the export data is corrupted has been tampered with 

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Jay Hobdy
Sep 02, 2018
IPVMU Certified

Are you going to include Smart PSS and Hik's software in this test? I know they are not a true VMS, but a lot of people use them as such. I suspect they will not do well against a true VMS but it would be nice to see where the exact weaknesses are.

RM
Ryan Marquart
Sep 04, 2018
IPVMU Certified

Quality/Accuracy.  It would probably go along with export formats.  Worst: any kind of compression from the original.  Best:uncompressed replica of what was recorded.

I wouldn't rank them on file size.  I'll take the 15gb uncompressed file over the 500mb lossy format any day.

If the video ever goes to court, I want exactly what the VMS recorded. 

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Brandon Fackler
Sep 07, 2018

Our entire team is versed on FLIR’s Latitude VMS platform capabilities it has for exporting.

FLIR provides an export that operates in the background for mass exports.  These exports can be done using their proprietary format, AVI, and MP4.  There are several great options to choose from when it comes to configuring these exports as well.

We do think very highly of FLIR's VMS, using it for most every install we take on.  We very much recommend that you include that as a test criteria along with some of these other features:

Support MP4 export with and without subtitles or embedded OSD

Support quick and efficient export to MP4 without need to transcode H264 video

Support bulk export – large amount of time and large number of cameras in one operation. Can it be done as a scheduled background operation with automation options?

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #5
Sep 07, 2018

I found out on one particular system that had a crappy export process (sorry, I won't say which), was say for example if it were 5 FPS video, when it exported the video as MP4, it created "filler" frames so the resulting MP4 was 30 FPS, making the video export 6 times the size it needed to be. Seems they couldn't export the video in a way that wrote framerate playback information in the file so it would playback normal speed at 5 FPS, so they needed to create all those extra frames so they'd have normal playback speed.

UI
Undisclosed Integrator #6
Sep 07, 2018

Not a lot do it but there are some that will actually upload the clip to the cloud so you can send a link to law enforcement or someone at corporate that doesn't know how to operate the system.

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