Brivo Mobile Pass Opens Any Door by Smartphone

Published Sep 25, 2015 04:00 AM

One of the major trends in access control are 'mobile' credentials.  

NFC and BLE have been fighting for the title but neither has really has taken off.

Now, Brivo has announced a new way of doing this that sidesteps the hassle, and claims to work with any door, any reader, and the majority of all smartphones in seconds.  

In this note, we examine Brivo Mobile Pass, explaining how it works, what it costs and what potential security risks it has.

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Comments (31)
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Billy Guthrie
Sep 25, 2015

If anything were to takeoff from a smartphone and CA (Card Access) credential perspective, I would vote for BLE as the technology is already built into the phone. Integrating BLE alongside a proximity reader would be low cost in my opinion. Essentially, you would install an app on the phone that would be authenticated during the enrollment process. The app would take the IMEI number and convert it to a CA Credential. Once in range of the BLE network, the phone would join the network; when presented a couple of inches to the reader in where the received signal strength were to be anywhere from 0dBm to -5dBm it would transmit the CA Credential encrypted via BLE.

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Undisclosed #1
Sep 25, 2015

Additional passes are available at $15 for 100. Given that this is effectively ~15 cents per user, this is fairly inexpensive especially compared to issuing iClass cards which can 10x or more than the mobile pass.

It seems you can look at this as "inexpensive", or "rather pricey for enabling an HTTPS call".

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Brian Rhodes
Sep 25, 2015
IPVMU Certified

Harsh and funny.

JH
John Honovich
Sep 25, 2015
IPVM

Remind me, does your company give away software for free? :)

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Undisclosed #1
Sep 25, 2015

Remind me, does your company give away software for free? :)

Yes.

The VMS client software is free.

The virtual matrix software is free.

The mobile app is free.

The mobile gateway package is free.

The stand-alone player for exported video is free.

JH
John Honovich
Sep 25, 2015
IPVM

"is free"

Let me correct that. "Is included in the price of the software license."

In all seriousness, charging small amounts for software that replaces physical devices (in this a card) is reasonable.

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Vlad Craciunescu
Sep 25, 2015

There is also the HID Mobile Access which works with both BLE and NFC , but they sell a reader for that, albeit not that expensive one...we just started with that and it looks good so far.

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Undisclosed Integrator #3
Sep 26, 2015

Unless you have an Iphone

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Undisclosed #2
Sep 25, 2015
IPVMU Certified

Now, Brivo has announced a new way of doing this that sidesteps the hassle, and claims to work with any door, any reader, and the majority of all smartphones in seconds.

Any reader, or just the ones that are already integrated into Brivo?

JH
John Honovich
Sep 25, 2015
IPVM

"The solution only works with Brivo's OnAir version 11.1 systems and not any third parties."

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Undisclosed #2
Sep 25, 2015
IPVMU Certified

I didn't know Brivo made a reader.

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Brian Rhodes
Sep 25, 2015
IPVMU Certified

Mobile Pass doesn't use a reader to work.

JH
John Honovich
Sep 25, 2015
IPVM

The reader choice is irrelevant here. That's the point.

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Undisclosed #2
Sep 25, 2015
IPVMU Certified

Gotcha both.

In this way, the user bypasses the reader and cards entirely and does everything through the management software instead.

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Keefe Lovgren
Sep 25, 2015
IPVMU Certified

I am really surprised by the results of the poll, over half feel that mobile credential is a bad idea is interesting. I would be curious to know why most people feel it is a bad idea vs. good idea.

infinias has had this as a product for some time now and we have several sites that utilize it and love it...

JH
John Honovich
Sep 25, 2015
IPVM

Keefe, good feedback!

There's only 23 votes so far so too early to be statistically meaningful. It may very well end up being split but usually IPVM polls stop fluctuating when they get 50 - 75 votes.

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Brian Rhodes
Sep 25, 2015
IPVMU Certified

Thanks Keefe. Correct me if this is wrong, but with the infinias solution, you need to be joined to a local wifi network that the controllers are part of, right?

The Brivo solution does not need wifi/ uses a cellular network since the management portal lies in 'the cloud', not on a local server.

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Keefe Lovgren
Sep 25, 2015
IPVMU Certified

Brian,

It can be either WAN or LAN. I personally have only setup customers on LAN access but other techs here have set up WAN access for sites.

KL
Keefe Lovgren
Sep 25, 2015
IPVMU Certified

from the infinias mobile credential page:

Mobile Credential works with infinias Intelli-M Access 4.0 (or higher) software to provide a smartphone based credential that can be used in one of two ways on a person by person basis. Either by requiring the smartphone be on the corporate network directly via WiFi, thus requiring proximity to the building, or via any internet connection allowing use of Mobile Credential from anywhere a data connection can be made with the smartphone. In one installation, some people can be required to be in proximity to the building (within WiFI range) while others can use their Mobile Credential from anywhere at the administrator’s discretion.

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Brian Rhodes
Sep 25, 2015
IPVMU Certified

Interesting. Thanks for bringing it up!

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Undisclosed #2
Sep 25, 2015
IPVMU Certified

For example, with Brivo's Mobile Pass, a user could open any door at any time from anywhere that they are authorized for.

I could see this being used from inside the building as well, to let people in, instead of going to meet them. Whether that is desirable is another matter.

Wondering what the latency/reliability issues are with the Internet and the cloud deal. Being locked outside a building for any length of time because the cloud/Internet connection is down I imagine is a memorably bad experience.

Of course they have this issue with their current systems, but now they are adding another seperate internet connection over 4G to the mix.

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Ethan Ace
Sep 25, 2015

Wondering what the latency/reliability issues are with the Internet and the cloud deal. Being locked outside a building for any length of time because the cloud/Internet connection is down I imagine is a memorably bad experience.

Of course they have this issue with their current systems, but now they are adding another seperate internet connection over 4G to the mix.

What do you mean they have this issue with current systems? What issue?

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Undisclosed #2
Sep 26, 2015
IPVMU Certified

I assumed there was at least some loss of functionality in their current cloud based offering due to Internet or cloud service unavailability.

But I see now that to be denied access at the door in such a case shouldn't happen because credentials are stored locally.

So you are correct, this possibility would be an entirely new issue for them.

WJ
Wayne Jared
Sep 27, 2015
Qumulex

infinias' Mobile Credential was launched in 2013 with the view that there was a better way to use a smartphone for access control than just reproducing the old card/reader interaction, we think it's great that Brivo has joined us.

The article stated you can do a 'manual unlock', and it's very easy to use that as shorthand for what the app does. But, that's not what we do, we've been very careful to make sure that our technology is secure from both an encryption perspective and what goes on the phone to be hacked or spoofed. With Mobile Credential the phone doesn't know how to do a manual unlock, it only knows how to present a credential to the system and let the system do all the decision making. I would imagine Brivo has done something similar as well.

The documentation quoted is accurate, in an internal installation, you can choose to give some users the internal IP and limit them to wifi proximity to the building (more secure), and others a public IP, allowing them to grant access from anywhere. On the cloud solution we're announcing at ASIS, this will of course only have the public IP option.

What doesn't come out very well with infinias, and we need to get better at publicizing this, is that you can implement all sorts of other functionality through the infinias mobile credential app - lock down, first in, arming, etc. via our rules engine, this is stuff we teach our certified guys in training.

JH
John Honovich
Sep 27, 2015
IPVM

"With Mobile Credential the phone doesn't know how to do a manual unlock, it only knows how to present a credential to the system and let the system do all the decision making."

Wayne, and what decision making does the system do? In other words, if I am an employee at a company who uses Infinias and has mobile credential enabled on my phone. I can't do an unlock?

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Wayne Jared
Sep 28, 2015
Qumulex

John,

It's a bit about semantics but is important. 'momentary unlock' typically means a remote unlock, usually from the management software. But that also means who went through the door is effectively anonymous. We (and I'd guess everyone else) logs that someone executed the momentary unlock but have no way of knowing who actually went through the door. So momentary unlock in that context is not really that secure. There has been video posted of one of our competitors (not Brivo) on YouTube showing a smartphone hack that momentary unlocks every door in a system, so the notion of phones doing a mometary unlock certainly makes me uncomfortable.

When the phone acts as a credential, then a credential is presented, and access is granted based on the request. i.e. 'Does Bill have access to this door at this time?'. That request/grant is logged so you know who went through the door, or at least who presented their credential. There is nothing on the phone of value beyond the credential. Disabling or changing someone's permissions is immediate and what's on their smartphone becomes unusable and of no consequence without any need to push or wipe anything on the smartphone.

We find that people confuse an app like this in one key way: Most users of Mobile Credential have no rights to log into the software and therefore no rights to perform any actions in the system other than use their credential. Thus we don't build any management-like features into it.

JH
John Honovich
Sep 28, 2015
IPVM

Wayne, I still don't understand what you are claiming to do. How do you ensure that the person who 'momentary unlocks' a door using a mobile credential is at the door at that exact time?

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Undisclosed #2
Sep 28, 2015
IPVMU Certified

How do you ensure that the person who 'momentary unlocks' a door using a mobile credential is at the door at that exact time?

IMHO, he's saying that Mobile Credential doesn't do a "momentary unlock".

Instead, the system does a credentialed open, like it would with a rfid card, the main difference being that the credenditial goes thru the cloud to get to the system instead of the reader.

A "momentary unlock" from the management software, on the other hand, only logs the operator who remotely performed the unlock, not who it was opened for. It also does not require that the system has determined whether access should be granted to the requester. It's a long distance "buzz-in".

Neither method though "ensures that the person who 'momentary unlocks' is at the door at that exact time.", since when using the Public version you could be anywhere around the world, but

That request/grant is logged so you know who went through the door, or at least who presented their credential.

tl;dr

'Momentary unlock' logs only the operator performing the unlock and does not require the system determine whether access should be granted to the actual requestor. So "no way of knowing who" in this case.

Mobile credential logs the person requesting the unlock and insures they have presented a valid credential. Here you know at least who requested and possibly entered, though you can't be sure they are actually at the door or passed thru the door on the unlock.

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Brad Silvernail
Sep 27, 2015

Disclosure - We are a Brivo Dealer. We tried Brivo Mobile Pass on Friday afternoon. I think the solution is very intriguing and pricing is not a barrier. The speed performance was nearly instantaneous - almost no lag. Also, the entry in the activity log captures each use in detail.

Will we offer it to customer - yes. Initially perhaps for multi-tenant situations - lots of churn - where not having to get the user a physical object could be beneficial. Or perhaps as guest passses. Later for other customers with "higher" security concerns, maybe when the geo-fencing feature is available.

One feature I like is not having to leave NFC and Bluetooth on my phone all the time - just one more battery killer.

I could image a small installation at some point in the future where we didn't even put card readers on all the doors!

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Undisclosed #2
Sep 27, 2015
IPVMU Certified

Will we offer it to customer - yes. Initially perhaps for multi-tenant situations - lots of churn - where not having to get the user a physical object could be beneficial. Or perhaps as guest passes.

Sending someone an email good for one-entry between 1:00PM and 1:30PM is interesting.

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Bill Sowar
Sep 30, 2015

Very powerful tool when combined with video/intercom solutions. Now if someone calls me and I'm not around my computer I can pull up the mobile app, verify on video they are actually at the door and let them in or not. (I would only give this to local admins to limit shenanigans and tom- foolery)

- Love that you can customize the door names/colors/icons so they make sense for the user.

- Geofencing should be an option not a requirement. If I am an Admin in NY I should be able to open a door in Dubai. The logs show who opened the door, so there is still an audit trail if people are just randomly popping doors all over the world.