I have to wonder why a manufacturer would pay the appropriate fees and join ONVIF but not get any devices listed as conformant.
For me what's makes it stranger is the fact that these cameras must have at least minimal, if not more ONVIF functionality, since that is typically the only way they are accessed. It suggests that its harder to figure out the certification tool than to build-in the basic functionality!
And from other comments it does sound like the tool is difficult to use, so if the mfr is a ONVIF member and the camera 'works' with ONVIF devices in the real world, the mfr. is just going to ship first and answer questions later, instead of waiting for the cert.
ONVIF doesn't jump all over these no-product members for a couple reasons:
1. There (as far as I can see) no per product fee charged, so no money lost, as long as they are members
2. Members can simply self-certify at will. And so if 'forced' by ONVIF they will do just that, and then you have the arguably worse situation where the declarations are worth less if not worthless.
3. ONVIF feels some culpability for not providing easier tools and better processes.
Why don't the non-product members just self-certify then? I believe they will if pressured, but the reason that they haven't so far is because they don't need to!
Here is what the rules are for $500/yr observation members regarding logo usage:
So members can use the first logo, even with no product! Whether its ethical to use it in every product box is another story...